I've read enough! Ramseys done it.

  • #61
Jacobi said:
I came late to this case -- it's really interesting and frustrating.
Thanks for posting this interview.
I don't think I'd let my child near a guy like McR, creepy, but hard to imagine him with the agility to due this murder. The whole "deserve to die" thing is so over the top - and the two of them were really self-obsessed IMO. Maybe Patsy liked them because she's off-kilter too. No one in the suspect group seems "normal" -- McR makes the Fleets look normal...they seem like they had actual normal reactions to that day.
If you read the Arndt interview, and the horrifying way that JR basically "toted" the body of his own child upstairs, you can see why Fleets have doubts.
The "toting" and Patsy being in her clothes from the previous day, make-up intact, convinced me. Plus, most people have to be pried from their loved one - they're in shock. They don't yell some goofy thing (Lazarus) then walk away, or go get MAIL, or fly off.....
 
  • #62
Jacobi said:
That's exactly the point as the body never made it out that window...
Noooooo, the point is if he couldn't lift that body, he couldn't lift the window grate, and there is no reason to believe he thought he could. Not to mentioned he couldn't have gone through that window without Tinkerbell Fairy Dust that actually worked. Take a gander at the extensive dirt on that windowsill and tell me how ANYONE got through that window without disturbing it...

http://www.acandyrose.com/window-basement6.jpg

I'm dying to know.

While we're at it, tell me how he managed to put the chair and boxes in front of a door he would have to have been on the other side of and then go BACK out the window without disturbing all that dirt?

Oh yeah, why don't you also explain how he managed to move the window grate without disturbing the spider web that connected the grate to the bricks under it, do everything that was done to JBR, write a ransom note with 62 single letter comparisons that exactly match Patsy's printing among a host of other examplar matches when she never prints but writes in script, leave not a single spec of DNA, fibers, hair, footprints or any other physical evidence anywhere on the body, around the body in JBR's bed and bedroom and everywhere else he had to have been in the house while managing to put Patsy's sweater fibers from her sweater that was in her room twisted in the KNOT of the cord that made the garrot, in the paint tray and on the sticky side of the duct tape?

I'll tell ya, that Tinkerbell Fairy Dust is some serious amazing magic. :rolleyes:
 
  • #63
blonde1 said:
I came late to this case -- it's really interesting and frustrating.
Thanks for posting this interview.
I don't think I'd let my child near a guy like McR, creepy, but hard to imagine him with the agility to due this murder. The whole "deserve to die" thing is so over the top - and the two of them were really self-obsessed IMO. Maybe Patsy liked them because she's off-kilter too. No one in the suspect group seems "normal" -- McR makes the Fleets look normal...they seem like they had actual normal reactions to that day.
If you read the Arndt interview, and the horrifying way that JR basically "toted" the body of his own child upstairs, you can see why Fleets have doubts.
The "toting" and Patsy being in her clothes from the previous day, make-up intact, convinced me. Plus, most people have to be pried from their loved one - they're in shock. They don't yell some goofy thing (Lazarus) then walk away, or go get MAIL, or fly off.....
By "Fleets" I'm assuming you mean Fleet White and his wife, Priscilla. The Whites probably top the list of the most normal people in this case. Here, this should straighten you out some on the Whites...

http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=7621
 
  • #64
s_finch said:
THanks, wish I'd known he's pro-R before I ordered his book earlier today :doh: I was aware that the book was on JR's bedside, so I wanted to read it, and well, I just like reading about forensic stuff anyway. I know that one of our top state LE guys here (who also does profiling) who was very instrumental in the Susan Smith case, believes PR is guilty.
Ah well... look at it this way - at least you didn't buy his car. ;)

Ramsey affiliation aside, it's still probably a pretty good read.
 
  • #65
Plenum7, great post! It's been years since I read my Ramsey books, but I dusted them off and back at it again! It was great reading your take on matters. Just kind of does it huh? yep

PagingDrDirect, you crack me up LOL

Tis all so sad, a bit of humor is needed sometimes. :)
 
  • #66
Jacobi said:
Hey Tricia,

Concerning the card:

From the videotaped deposition of Steve Thomas on Sept. 21 2001 it reads:

6 Q. Was there a note from Bill
7 McReynolds found torn up in JonBenet's trash
8 can in her room?

9 A. I have heard that.

10 Q. Did you ever check to see if that
11 were true?

12 A. I think I was told that it was
13 some sort of card.

14 Q. From Bill McReynolds?
15 A. Yes.

That Steve doesn't question its existence is striking, and if we are to believe it then the idea of Santa Bill sending JonBenet a card is very concerning. Of course, we only have second hand info regarding its contents.

Hi Jacobi,

This is what I mean. A simple item like a card in a trash can becomes a card from Santa setting up his "secret visit" from Santa.

Jacobi, I am not blaming you at all. It happens all the time in this case. I am sure you heard someone say this on CNN, about the secret Santa, but that doesn't mean it is even close to the truth.

This is a great thread by the way. Lots of info.
 
  • #67
Plenum7

While I liked your analysis of the RN, I'm wondering what you made of the "small foriegn faction" part. Doesn't strike me as something the housekeeper would say, or as something the Rs thought the housekeeper might say.
 
  • #68
LaMer said:
PagingDrDirect, you crack me up LOL

Tis all so sad, a bit of humor is needed sometimes. :)
Well, you know what they say - sometimes if you don't laugh you cry. I admit I have an odd sense of humor... you wouldn't believe all of the strange stuff I've had to self-delete before posting! It would burn out your retinas... you'd have to wear special protective goggles to read it. :cool: <---- I knew this smilie was here for a reason! Someone added a Protective Eye-Wear smilie just because of me!

Ack... See? I'm doing it again!

Eh, what the heck, one more (then I'll stop... really... I mean it)...

Since McSanta had to have used the magic Tinkerbell Fairy Dust to be able to get in through that window, do everything he did without leaving a trace and leaving evidence that pointed to Patsy, and then get back through that window, how is it he also left no trace of the magic Tinkerbell Fairy Dust???

Ooooooooooooooo! That is some REALLY magic fairy dust! :D

Ok, somebody just hit me with a big dead stinky fish already! I'm running amok!

:woohoo: <----- See? There I am running amok! (now that's TWO smilies they have here just for me!) Except that's not a very good likeness... I'm not purple, and I have hair (and legs).

Ok, now I'll stop... really.
 
  • #69
"how is it he also left no trace of the magic Tinkerbell Fairy Dust???"

:waitasec: ah the spider ate it? :rolleyes:
 
  • #70
"I know that one of our top state LE guys here (who also does profiling) who was very instrumental in the Susan Smith case, believes PR is guilty."

That is interesting! Would I recognize his name?

What you have to remember is that Douglas is basically a lone voice. All of his colleagues (McCrary, Ressler, Walker, DePue, CASKU, etc) say this was an inside crime.
 

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