J Blanchard Park #1

[Maddywv]

I had thought that maybe she was staging her dissappearance to seem like it was connected to NG's murder and then she was going to flee to California and meet up with that marine and try to continue on with her pathetic little life.

I wonder if the Marine rejected her and told her not to come out

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Sure - easily really and I have crossed it many times, but Orlando is known as the City of Lakes. there are hundreds of lakes and dozens of similar bridges this could be done at. And wooded areas around each. You could easily park in the dirt parking lot next to the post office and probably not be spotted if you were trying to dump something in the lake as well, or the woods for that matter, it's rather dark back there at night.

Oh and that road is Enconolatchee it parralells the river from this point south, well somewhat anyway.

Is there a waterfall or dam like thing which has water running over it there?

 

[karen7868]

I had thought that maybe she was staging her dissappearance to seem like it was connected to NG's murder and then she was going to flee to California and meet up with that marine and try to continue on with her pathetic little life.

I had thought that she was going to fake her own kidnapping too. I would love to know the date the chloroform was searched and purchased because I do remember reading chloroform was found next th NG car.

If Cindy hadn't found Amy's address or phone #, we might be seeing a search for Casey AND Caylee on the news now. She could have poured the chloroform into the trunk to be sure it was detected.

The reason I think KC knew about the chloroform was her being nosy with her cop boyfriends. Getting information from them in her nonchalant KC way. As always, JMO.

 

[karen7868]

This could explain her buying all those clothes. She thought she would need to leave the old ones behind to look like she was kidnapped.

But she still also needed clothes, hence the reason to buy new ones, even the huge ugly sunglasses to keep from anyone recognizing her at airport, etc.

Also leaving Caylee's favorite babydoll would have made it look like a kidnapping.

 

[Chicagirl]

She chose Blanchard out of random information. So… if Caylee’s body is found, she can accuse the murderer. KC just took the fear that everyone was feeling and tried to weave the BP rapist story into her own timeline. Casey and Nicole both have the same shamrock tattoo. Casey weaved this ladies reality into Casey/Caylee life. Pathological liars assimilate other people life into their own reality.

Did you realize that Jenifer Kesse (missing 2006) ALSO had the same shamrock tattoo?
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/4/3/ew_pictures_released_in_kesse_case.html

New here, can I post a link?

 

[minazoe]

wow, that's a really good theroy.

 

[karen7868]

This has probably been asked a gazillion times, so I apologize before posting this.

How much would a plane ticket or bus ticket cost to California from Orlando. Did KC already pack her things (remember, Lee said her stuff was "neatly" packed, unlike KC. She was begging Cindy for 1 more day.

Was the $200 LE found in KC's wallet for the ticket, either bus or plane? Was she going to purchase the ticket using the name ZFG?

I really think she was planning to flee. Did JG give her information about NG, unknowing what she was planning. Could giving out that confidential information be the reason JG was fired???

 

[reefshadow]

I had thought that she was going to fake her own kidnapping too. I would love to know the date the chloroform was searched and purchased because I do remember reading chloroform was found next th NG car.

If Cindy hadn't found Amy's address or phone #, we might be seeing a search for Casey AND Caylee on the news now. She could have poured the chloroform into the trunk to be sure it was detected.

The reason I think KC knew about the chloroform was her being nosy with her cop boyfriends. Getting information from them in her nonchalant KC way. As always, JMO.

What you read was a rumour on another bulletin board, there has been no statement from LE regarding chloroform in the NG case.

 

[reefshadow]

Did you realize that Jenifer Kesse (missing 2006) ALSO had the same shamrock tattoo?
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/4/3/ew_pictures_released_in_kesse_case.html

New here, can I post a link?

Yes, links are most welcome

Yes, KC and JK have shamrock tattoos, NG did not or at least it wasn't in any press release. Just another rumour. I think NG is being mistaken for JK in this case.

So much of this "theory" is based on incorrect rumours.

 

[Pink Panther]

Sure - easily really and I have crossed it many times, but Orlando is known as the City of Lakes. there are hundreds of lakes and dozens of similar bridges this could be done at. And wooded areas around each. You could easily park in the dirt parking lot next to the post office and probably not be spotted if you were trying to dump something in the lake as well, or the woods for that matter, it's rather dark back there at night.

Oh and that road is Enconolatchee it parralells the river from this point south, well somewhat anyway.

Friptzap - Hello...Me again. Thanks so much for answering my questions.

Just a couple more - Is the water deep there? Are there currents? Does the waterflow lend itself to a body disappearing? If you are going to be in that area, could you possibly take some pics so we can see???

 

[realist]

Friptzap - Hello...Me again. Thanks so much for answering my questions.

Just a couple more - Is the water deep there? Are there currents? Does the waterflow lend itself to a body disappearing? If you are going to be in that area, could you possibly take some pics so we can see???

The water flows NW due to a series of lochs (sp)? so there is a slow current. The water is not very deep but a body could possibly disappear if weighted down, but would likely show up somewhere down river behind the YMCA in JBP.

FWIW, I have spent almost 3 weeks doing a very detailed and thorough search of the area between where NG was found and Arcadia Acres park. If she disposed of Caylee in the park, I can pretty well say with confidence that it was in fact in the water.

Very important note: The Google Maps and Google Earth Maps are VERY outdated regarding this area. The bridge has been rebuilt and rerouted and there has been several construction projects completed in this area.

For a better understanding of what the area looks like now, go to Microsoft Maps and use the 'birds eye view'.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

The water flows NW due to a series of lochs (sp)? so there is a slow current. The water is not very deep but a body could possibly disappear if weighted down, but would likely show up somewhere down river behind the YMCA in JBP.

FWIW, I have spent almost 3 weeks doing a very detailed and thorough search of the area between where NG was found and Arcadia Acres park. If she disposed of Caylee in the park, I can pretty well say with confidence that it was in fact in the water.

Very important note: The Google Maps and Google Earth Maps are VERY outdated regarding this area. The bridge has been rebuilt and rerouted and there has been several construction projects completed in this area.

For a better understanding of what the area looks like now, go to Microsoft Maps and use the 'birds eye view'.

Is there anywhere in that area which has a little waterfall like thing?

 

[realist]

Is there anywhere in that area which has a little waterfall like thing?

Well the lochs are man made water control devices that could be considered a waterfall.

 

[SewingDeb]

For the one who asked about airline fares to California:

Sort By: Fare Number of Stops
Average Fare/Person Number of Stops Refundable Change
Fees Complete
Rules
230.00 USD 2 No Yes View
304.00 USD 1 No Yes View
492.00 USD 1 No Yes View
716.00 USD 1 No Yes View

This is what I found searching American Airlines flying from Orlando to San Jose (I don't know if that's anywhere near where the marine lives in California...just had to pick an airport to get the fares.

 

[Friptzap]

1. At some points in the water it is deeper than others.
2. I retract the throwing a body over the bridge as possible, there is a very tall fence alomg the bridge over the waterway.
3. The police have done a very extensive search during the NG case as I have found out today, and the map shown several posts back is incorrect. The body was located on the east side of the river not the west side the location where she was pulled from the trail is on the east side as well.
4. The bridge on east colonial (highway 50) that crosses the econ as it flows south does not have a fence and something could be thrown into the waterway from here.
5. This areas has changed considerable from what google earth/maps shows. There is a very large church building next to the post office now.
6. As I was searching this area today I discovered some items that concerned me and I reported them. I stood with a deputy for almost an hour and a half while we waited for CSI to come and view the find. The items where things one would think a homeless person would cary/own ... Old work pants cut short, old blanket, hammer - grip was split all the way down and loose hammer's handle was loose from the grip and rusty, Brass knuckles, either a rubber "surgical" type glove or a bunch of condoms all flattened out and pressed into a flat shape that appeared to be a glove all folded up, a bottle of hair spray. Also deeper in these woods I saw other items such as paper plates and a piece of copper wire sheath where the wire was removed by splitting the sheath. Homeless take the time to do this because they can get more money for it "clean." I was thanked for reporting these items but was informed that (and this was all they could tell me about it) these items were not involved with the crime and they were only going to collect the hammer and brass knuckles (as the weapon is illegal to begin with) as meerly found property. CSI said these had nothing to do with NG's murder and there would be no DNA evidence on the other items that they could test for. They mentioned thorughly searching this area and suggested these items may have been left sometime after NG's murder. There was never any mention of cause of death or possible weapons used only that it was a brutal murder and that they thought a homeless person was invlved so I felt it was important enough to report this stuff since it appeared to have been something that a homelss person maybe owned and they were items that could have been used to cause great injury. Apparently these items did not cause the types of imjury's she sustained.
7. I took extensive photos of this entire area including the items I found and I will try and post them another night, but I fell alseep early tonight and I am still tired and heading back!

 

[Pink Panther]

Thanks you so much FRIPTZAP and REALIST for your updates and detailed descriptions of the area. It makes such a tremendous difference to hear things explained first hand by you both!

 

[Mysterylover]

Are you saying that chloroform had been used on Nicole?.....

My question is: Would C. hold Cindy's counselor responsible for causing her problems in the family, being asked to move and taking Caylee away from her???
Would she had told a 'friend' about her problems caused by the counselor?..:waitasec:

 

[realist]

Thanks you so much FRIPTZAP and REALIST for your updates and detailed descriptions of the area. It makes such a tremendous difference to hear things explained first hand by you both!

There are enough clothes in those woods to stock a JC Penney and enough junk to fill several dumpsters as well. It still amazes me how many people must be coming and going thru that area at night.

 

[Friptzap]

My question is: Would C. hold Cindy's counselor responsible for causing her problems in the family, being asked to move and taking Caylee away from her???
Would she had told a 'friend' about her problems caused by the counselor?..:waitasec:

Casey has nothing to do with this murder. There is zero evidence to support this. I had my own concerns and submitted them to the police and was informed through a manner I cannot divulge that there is zero connection and this line of query should not be allowed to continue because many people involved in Casey's personaly life and even some not involved with her at all but happen to be innocent victems of hers are now being dragged into NG's case and people are trying to link them to her crime.

 

[reefshadow]

and the map shown several posts back is incorrect. The body was located on the east side of the river not the west side the location where she was pulled from the trail is on the east side as well.

Thanks very much for clarifying this, I was going by a brief verbal description only. So she was actually nabbed, killed and located *before* the bridge area? Doesn't really change anything in my mind but makes the crime more frightening because it seems like that area would have much more of a 360 degree view, making the killers actions even bolder and scarier. If a person is in the back parking lot of the post office would they be able to see right across the river to the trail where the crime occurred?

It makes me wonder if they have a CCTV video of her nab because in most cases the back of a federal building would have CCTV. I wonder if they have based part of the description on a video as well as other details of the crime that they aren't divulging. Of course it would be dependent on that section of the trail being visible from CCTV in the back of the PO. How dark is it there at 6-7PM in June?

Scary stuff, and I want to thank you for your time and efforts. In all the hullaballoo about the A's it is easy to forget that there are other crimes crying out to be solved.