Jason Young to get new trial #2

[sunshine05]

I would run the water for a long time to be sure to wash the drains thoroughly.
I am not an expert on forensics, but I think it is found if the water is not run for long enough and get's caught in the trap (the curved pipe under sinks)

I don't know what to think about the lack of blood in the drains. I would think that if JY did this, being that it's his home that he would clean up there. If the killer lives somewhere else they are going to flee quickly and clean up somewhere else to avoid getting caught there.

I still wonder about CY's pajamas - how they were positive for blood but none was visible. If clothing is washed, it can still show if blood was present. It seems like they were washed. How else to explain no visible blood on her clothing?

 

[sunshine05]

Yes, in Michael Galloway's crime scene photos keys were on kitchen counter.

Keys were on the counter that MF claimed were hers but they very well could have been MY's keys. MF couldn't have had two sets of keys there.

 

[citygirl]

It does matter. They ended up obtaining a search warrant to search the Lexus many months later partially due to those keys being found on the hood. It is not "no big deal". It's yet one more unexplained thing concerning MF. Who goes into someone's home and leaves their keys on the hood of a car in a garage? No one. That means she was in there for some reason.

S
The reason she was there is because her BIL called her on false pretenses. That's why she was there on a fluke. He had never called her before. HE set the wheels in motion.

 

[sunshine05]

S
The reason she was there is because her BIL called her on false pretenses. That's why she was there on a fluke. He had never called her before. HE set the wheels in motion.

It's not true that he "never called her before". In fact, he called her the prior day and the day before that. They were in pretty constant communication as MF was acting as marriage counselor. You do know that he discussed the idea of the purse with MF several weeks prior also? He was trying to please her and Linda as they were upset with him for only getting MY an anniversary card with Starbuck's gift cards. That wasn't acceptable to them.

As for why she was there --- I was referring specifically to the garage. Why was she hanging out in the garage and placing her keys on MY's car?

 

[MyBelle]

It does matter. They ended up obtaining a search warrant to search the Lexus many months later partially due to those keys being found on the hood. It is not "no big deal". It's yet one more unexplained thing concerning MF. Who goes into someone's home and leaves their keys on the hood of a car in a garage? No one. That means she was in there for some reason.

Bingo! It is far from "no big deal."

JMO

 

[MyBelle]

Thank you.

"I want to know. Were you crying?" asked defense attorney Bryan Collins.

"No, I was not. Not initially," Fisher responded.

Fisher maintained she was trying to stay strong since Cassidy was wandering around the house. The little girl had left her baby doll by her dead mother and a trail of small bloody footprints upstairs.

"She'd been through enough. She didn't need to hear it," said Fisher.

Lawyers also asked Fisher about asking Cassidy if she had seen anything. Fisher said Cassidy mentioned her father, but was not specific. Later, when questioned by a child psychologist, Fisher said Cassidy shut down and didn't have any more information.

Where does this say it was THAT night?

Please take the time to review actual trial testimony on WRAL. Widely covered in the news media, including WRAL.

"When we were in the fire truck, she continued to talk about her father," Fisher said.

A child psychologist was on hand later that night at Fisher's home, she testified. By that time, however, Cassidy "had just kind of shut down."

Read more at http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/10702549/#4GVgs8T2b71Ip67e.99

 

[MyBelle]

What is "all about the FB page"? I don't understand.

I have no idea. I didn't realize FB even existed at the time of Michelle's murder.

 

[MyBelle]

I don't know what to think about the lack of blood in the drains. I would think that if JY did this, being that it's his home that he would clean up there. If the killer lives somewhere else they are going to flee quickly and clean up somewhere else to avoid getting caught there.

I still wonder about CY's pajamas - how they were positive for blood but none was visible. If clothing is washed, it can still show if blood was present. It seems like they were washed. How else to explain no visible blood on her clothing?

The lack of blood in the drains points away from JY as the murderer. JY wasn't injured, thus any blood would have been Michelle's, not his. JY lived there. Someone else-who was injured-would have avoided the drains out of fear their DNA would be found.

An investigator sure found it odd there was no blood on CY. And I believe it was Agent Russell Holley, a blood analyst who tested CY's clothes and got a positive for blood and also on the inside of CY's shoe.

Wake County sheriff's deputy Scott Earp – one of two officers first to arrive at the Young house – testified that he was caught off guard when Fisher told him she had not cleaned the girl.

"I think I expected a ‘yes’ out of it," he said Wednesday. "I thought that was kind of odd."

Read more at http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/10702549/#4GVgs8T2b71Ip67e.99

 

[citygirl]

It's not true that he "never called her before". In fact, he called her the prior day and the day before that. They were in pretty constant communication as MF was acting as marriage counselor. You do know that he discussed the idea of the purse with MF several weeks prior also? He was trying to please her and Linda as they were upset with him for only getting MY an anniversary card with Starbuck's gift cards. That wasn't acceptable to them.

As for why she was there --- I was referring specifically to the garage. Why was she hanging out in the garage and placing her keys on MY's car?

I should clarify. He had never called and requested she go to the house in the middle of the day. That was unusual.
Didn't she enter through the garage that afternoon?

 

[citygirl]

Please take the time to review actual trial testimony on WRAL. Widely covered in the news media, including WRAL.

"When we were in the fire truck, she continued to talk about her father," Fisher said.

A child psychologist was on hand later that night at Fisher's home, she testified. By that time, however, Cassidy "had just kind of shut down."

Read more at http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/story/10702549/#4GVgs8T2b71Ip67e.99

This is not the same article you quoted before. In this article she mentions being in the fire truck. You keep saying it happened later that night at MF's house. Are you speaking of 2 different psychologists?

 

[MyBelle]

This is not the same article you quoted before. In this article she mentions being in the fire truck. You keep saying it happened later that night at MF's house. Are you speaking of 2 different psychologists?

According to MF's testimony, the psychologist was at her home that evening.

If you do not wish to view the testimony yourself, sobeit.

 

[JusticeFever]

According to MF's testimony, the psychologist was at her home that evening.

If you do not wish to view the testimony yourself, sobeit.

Thanks, and thanks for posting a link. As for having some sort of an agenda, all anyone has to do is see the amount of posts that have been accurate as opposed to the ones having to be corrected for being inaccurate, I have highlighted testimony from the trial with a link and proof to back it up. It is not our fault or anyone else's fault that there were 2 trial errors and that the 2 convictions were overturned in the Young and Cooper case, No one here had anything to do with that. There is absolutely nothing on this forum that I have posted that is not true and has to do with anything other than having reasonable doubt, the same conclusion 8 of the jurors in Trial 1 had.
As far as Cooper, yes, he is guaranteed a new trial. Young is heading on the same path, because all the Judges voted unanimous on his appeal.So, it is 90% sure Jason Young will have another trial.

 

[oenophile]

The U.S. system of justice is an adversarial system. I fear for the day that only the prosecution and those that buy into the prosecution's arguments can discuss the evidence.

If JY is innocent, I would hope that everyone here would live for his release.

The "free JY" campaign, as you call it, was the direct result of the trial(s).

The simple truth is, no one here (unless they are the killer or JY himself) knows for a fact whether he committed this crime. Everyone is basing their opinion on how they interpret the evidence presented. [modsnip]

 

[Salem]

Okay Guys - you need to stop fighting with each other and trying to bully others to change their opinions.

It is true that defense attorneys cruise the internet for info. Happens in lots of cases. But that doesn't mean discussion needs to stop.

If you are uncomfortable posting in this case, then don't. Move on to a case where you feel you are more productive or whatever. But don't try to tell others what to do, please.

If a post offends you, alert it and let the mods have a look at it.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[MyBelle]

The U.S. system of justice is an adversarial system. I fear for the day that only the prosecution and those that buy into the prosecution's arguments can discuss the evidence.

If JY is innocent, I would hope that everyone here would live for his release.

The "free JY" campaign, as you call it, was the direct result of the trial(s).

The simple truth is, no one here (unless they are the killer or JY himself) knows for a fact whether he committed this crime. Everyone is basing their opinion on how they interpret the evidence presented. [modsnip]

It's also a simple truth that if either or both of these men are innocent then there are still killers out there. That should truly bother anyone who cares about justice for the victims.

JMO

 

[otto]

I should clarify. He had never called and requested she go to the house in the middle of the day. That was unusual.
Didn't she enter through the garage that afternoon?

Jason often relied on Meredith to smooth things over between Michelle and him, with the spouses often placing Meredith in the position of mediator. It was not unusual for Meredith to be the go-between for Jason and Michelle.

 

[MyBelle]

Jason often relied on Meredith to smooth things over between Michelle and him, with the spouses often placing Meredith in the position of mediator. It was not unusual for Meredith to be the go-between for Jason and Michelle.

Thanks for raising this point. In abusive relationships, an abuser usually tries to drive a wedge between the victim and her family in order to maintain control. In this case, just the opposite took place. And, iirc, Meredith also testified that when the couple argued, both were equally engaged in the argument. There has been no evidence this was a household of domestic violence.

JMO

 

[JusticeFever]

Jason often relied on Meredith to smooth things over between Michelle and him, with the spouses often placing Meredith in the position of mediator. It was not unusual for Meredith to be the go-between for Jason and Michelle.

Yes, that is true. Jason even called MF that nite around the time he was at Cracker Barrel too.

 

[JusticeFever]

Yes, in Michael Galloway's crime scene photos keys were on kitchen counter.

Yes, but those were Michelle's and Meredith's keys were found on the hood of Michelle's Lexus which I have linked the search warrant here dated 7/24/07 several times, and the reasons behind LE doing it. Because of the keys being found on MY's car, because of the clean condition of the child, and because LE thought the child may had been taken from the home.

 

[JusticeFever]

What makes no sense to me is WHERE her keys were. It factored into nothing. No big deal. LE must have viewed it the same way. It matters naught to them. I'm inclined to go with their assessment as opposed to yours.

It mattered enough to them to issue a search warrant for them being there!!