Jason Young to get new trial #4

[SStarr33]

At the time of that conversation, they didn't even know the cause of death. There was speculation that MY had bled as a result of the pregnancy. MF was not given details initially. JY asked her if CY was ok, according to testimony.

If you find he spoke to anyone, other than his attorneys, about any details, please share such link(s).

http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/asset_gallery/9636865/?s=1

 

[SStarr33]

But there were no signs of forced entry. Are you saying he should have broken in to support a burglary?

Um, yes.

 

[SStarr33]

So much so that her father murdered her mother and left her alone in a house with her mother's dead body.

I'm not going to mention the other family atrocities here.

Her father is currently innocent.

Please refer to the results of the appeal.

 

[SStarr33]

But what about the time period from Nov to Jan?????

Please listen to the trial testimony. He was told by MF it was possible homicide when he was in the car going from Brevard to RDU.:banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[citygirl]

Yes, they do spend time with her.

Thank you. IMO as it should be for the little girl. If either family bothers to read here they no doubt get a kick out of we posters. They must be thinking we are a bunch of losers weighing in on every detail of their lives. :floorlaugh: None of us on the inside and knowing the family. Obviously they have worked it out for the betterment of CY. MOO.

 

[citygirl]

They visited with the child in October, 2008, and in December, 2008, (perhaps 5-6 weeks later) they applied for custody. I don't think that's reasonable. I suspect that a lot of inlaws/grandparents can go for a couple of months without seeing grandchildren without creating a problem over it.

A couple months? That might work for you. It wouldn't work for me. How do you know they saw her in October? How long was the interim prior to that?

 

[SStarr33]

IIRC, she had the ability to make a 100% bonus.

Just re-listened to her boss Paul Matthews in the retrial and her salary was $68,000 with the ability to get a bonus of up to 120% plus matches for her 401K.

 

[otto]

A couple months? That might work for you. It wouldn't work for me. How do you know they saw her in October? How long was the interim prior to that?

Perhaps it would be worthwhile checking the links. I refer you to the custody application link, paragraph 22 that is in the comment to which I responded.

 

[citygirl]

I'm pretty sure that some of the paragraphs in the affidavit relate to a time prior to the birth of the child. As a matter of fact, parents that are accused of crazy things will back off simply because they don't want to give life to the allegations.

Regardless, Jason's decisions for his daughter are his business and have nothing to do with Michelle's murder.

Really? In this case it has everything to do with MY's murder. He would never had been in this position. Weak argument that makes no sense. No disrespect intended. MOO.

 

[otto]

Just re-listened to her boss Paul Matthews in the retrial and her salary was $68,000 with the ability to get a bonus of up to 120% plus matches for her 401K.

With a combined income between $130-140k (not including bonuses), and an investment property, this family did not have financial problems.

 

[SStarr33]

Of course not & please don't hold your breath waiting on it... That shows the type of people some are....

I wish I could like your post 1000 times.

 

[otto]

Really? In this case it has everything to do with MY's murder. He would never had been in this position. Weak argument that makes no sense. No disrespect intended. MOO.

Jason's behavior at parties prior to the birth of his daughter is completely irrelevant in terms of his parenting abilities.

In what way is drunken behavior at a party prior to the birth of his daughter related to the murder of his wife several years later?

 

[SStarr33]

And there are those who think a little girl living with the father who murdered her Mommy is beyond horrible.

Um, the daddy did not kill MY.

 

[citygirl]

It's easy to sit back and judge when you aren't in that situation yourself. I'd be willing to bet that if your spouse was murdered and you were a suspect and your in-laws were saying negative things about you and flat out accusing you of the crime, you would do everything in your power to shield your children from that talk.

He wasn't shielding his child. He was shielding himself.

I think the problem here is that some of you can't even stop to consider that JY could be innocent. If you pretend that he is for a second and consider what he was put through, the harsh judgement would disappear. The fact is, there is no evidence that he ever left the HI that night.

IMO, the problem is that you can't consider his guilt. What was he put through? He had 3 free years of living and doing his own thing. Fully supported by his family. He moved on.

Also, we've been through this so many times. When you are a suspect in a crime, it is unwise to subject yourself to a 7-8 hour long deposition. It simply is. It doesn't mean the person doesn't love their children if they decline to participate. Additionally, responding to a suit like this requires hiring attorneys and it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars.

He had money to go on vacations before he was incarcerated. To me it doesn't demonstrate that he didn't love his daughter. It demonstrates that he loved himself MORE. He was what matters. Plain and simple.

 

[SStarr33]

He had money to go on vacations before he was incarcerated. To me it doesn't demonstrate that he didn't love his daughter. It demonstrates that he loved himself MORE. He was what matters. Plain and simple.

He went on a vacation that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars??/

Really?

 

[sunshine05]

No she wasn't. She didn't murder her husband, she fought him for custody.

Exactly. A custody fight in a divorce can't be compared to someone falsely accused of a murder and being forced to talk in order to have any hope of maintaining custody. It's clear he would have had no chance of winning the suit with police writing affidavits that they believed he was guilty. You think a Judge was going to award him custody? So there was no point in subjecting himself to an 8 hour interrogation. The tactics they use are disgusting.

 

[sunshine05]

He had money to go on vacations before he was incarcerated. To me it doesn't demonstrate that he didn't love his daughter. It demonstrates that he loved himself MORE. He was what matters. Plain and simple.

The cost of a vacation is *nothing* compared to the legal expenses of a custody case. We're talking about hundreds of thousands of dollars with no guarantees. In fact, he would have had no chance with police assisting with the Fishers attorney's case.

 

[SStarr33]

How so? They were looking for partial custody so they could see her on a regular basis. They were completely shocked when he gave MF sole physical custody! He gave her up and agreed to see her every other weekend and holidays that were worked out between them. Why is that so difficult to understand? And the people with poor opinions of one another came from both sides. I doubt that either side would look to undermine the other with a 2.5 year old. She would be too young to grasp that concept anyway. I think you would be wise to give more credit to the adults on both sides of the family.
And in the end it was the best thing for the child. He was arrested 10 months later. She had a certain amount of stability in her life by then. MOO.

JY wasn't stupid. He saw that he was being railroaded and did what he thought was best for his child. Great guy.

 

[otto]

He had money to go on vacations before he was incarcerated. To me it doesn't demonstrate that he didn't love his daughter. It demonstrates that he loved himself MORE. He was what matters. Plain and simple.

He took his daughter on vacations. How does that translate to having no concern for his daughter?

 

[citygirl]

I don't "yammer". It's not a word that I've heard.

Did you have a specific question for me? If so, please be so kind as to post it again. Clearly, I missed it.

Thank you

That would be post 325. Thanks.