Jodi Arias Murder Trial - the defense continues it's case in chief-*Weekend* #90

[Texas Lady]

I could have seen myself doing what she did at one time. A flash card contains a microchip where data is stored. Fluids and microchips don't go together, so I'm told. Washing machine cycle + microchip = death to chip and no way to recover data (deleting the pictures beforehand was just an added precaution). As someone else pointed out, taking his new camera with her would have pointed to a suspect who was very close, like a batshit crazy ex-girlfriend with a fetish for taking pictures of men in showers.

I don't question the taking/washing the camera as much as I question that she tried so hard to not be placed in Arizona on that day then why be so stupid the use the camera at all. I know it was a setup to get him in the shower but why the nudes.

 

[Shelby1]

Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
Tonite on "HLN After Dark" I will take you into our full-scale model of the #JodiArias crime scene with the #JodiJury @HLNtv 10pm eastern!

 

[leebee52]

Evidently my computer is having brain damage too. Been booted twice, couldn't get page to load. Anyway, Gus versus Samuels, same kind of BS's. Sometimes hard to distinguish between ALL of the major BS'rs in this case!

 

[LambChop]

Am I under surveillance mods?

LOL. No, I think major reaction means "volumes" of posters who thought she was talking about Samuels. Just trying to see if you are awake for court.... I guess you are awake. lol

 

[Wake_me]

Or, because she's psychopathic, its easy for Jodi to manipulate the best and worst aspects of the tenets of any religion.

What I found interesting was that she didn't say she tried to be a good mormon, but that she tried to 'appear' to be one.

 

[LambChop]

I don't question the taking/washing the camera as much as I question that she tried so hard to not be placed in Arizona on that day then why be so stupid the use the camera at all. I know it was a setup to get him in the shower but why the nudes.

I often wonder if she loaded them onto her hard drive. She claims to have had her computer with her. Didn't she say that to JM under cross?? jmo

 

[Sunny_In_AZ]

Does anyone remember which day JA told her "TA kicked her and broke her finger" story. I just thought of something and need to review that, tia.

The finger breaking testimony can be found here. Scroll to 4:01:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEY4f6mDuW4

Compare that with the texts from the same day.
Note: Jodi's messages are incoming

 

[khaki]

Back to the photos-to me, photo at 5:27:18 is where he first sees her. For any of the prior photos, I don't think he knew she was there taking them. I think this speaks to ambush and how quickly she got going with the killing. He saw her and gun. and she said sit down, and then there it went. Also, to me it seems the camera stayed in the bathroom the entire time, close to where it originally landed.

 

[Zeno49]

I have always wondered how “history” will treat this trial and JA. To be sure she is one of the most sinister and reprehensible female murders we have encountered in the recent past. The fact that JA has spent 4 years in masterminding an elaborate lie and making the state of Arizona pay for this grotesque concoction are particularly galling. Also the fact that JA spent over ONE month on the stand blatantly lying to the jury and world at large has to be unprecedented.

I would wager that history will not be kind to the defense team. Arizona residents will not be happy that millions of their dollars were spent in presenting this preposterous claim that JA is a “victim” of post traumatic stress and that she is NOT responsible for butchering TA because she cannot “remember” butchering him. I assume this AZ trial will be a rare instance where the felon initially annihilates the victim with a knife and gun and then is given the opportunity to repeat the annihilation a second time using a broad character assassination and suggestion that the victim is really at fault.

The audacity of this case is boundless and breathtaking.

 

[Texas Lady]

I often wonder if she loaded them onto her hard drive. She claims to have had her computer with her. Didn't she say that to JM under cross?? jmo

I do too. I think she wanted her trophy

 

[katiecoolady]

I do think when JM made her read from a portion of the Book of Mormons about what happens when you lie (going to hell) it did affect her. She looked stricken as is she is thinking about the Law of Attraction. Just dessert. jmo

Well I know when she said that "condemned to Hell" comment nearly the entire front row of jurors picked up their pads and took notes.

 

[katiewonders]

Sorry if already asked and answered, but is court dark today?

 

[Truth Detector]

I still want closure on the digital images, as they are foundational evidence in the prosecution's case.

According to the probable cause statement, TA's camera was located in the washing machine when the search warrant was executed on June 10, 2008. The statement indicates that the Sony H9 had been run through a wash cycle with other items. It had, of course, sustained water damage. The memory card was described as being "intact", with several images stored thereon.

On June 19, Detective Flores received "the images" stored on the card. The statement explains that some of these images had been deleted.

The statement does not include any mention whatsoever of the internal memory. Does LE not realize that this camera had an internal memory in addition to the removable memory card? Or were they not successful in examining the internal 31MB memory due to the damage?

It is not clear whether the attempt to retrieve the deleted images was 100% successful, or whether some images remain in an 'unrecovered' status.

Does LE have more images that they are unable to recover? Are there other images that LE has not seen?

Did JA copy all of these images before leaving Travis's butchered body wedged in that shower stall on June 4, 2008? If so, does she still possess them? Are they in Yreka? Do DB, or MM, or some other ex-BF, etc. possess copies of these images?

 

[katiecoolady]

Boy my oops has had some major reaction. I was talking about Gus...not Samuels.

Aren't they kind of synonymous?

 

[luvtenniss]

Back to the photos-to me, photo at 5:27:18 is where he first sees her. For any of the prior photos, I don't think he knew she was there taking them. I think this speaks to ambush and how quickly she got going with the killing. He saw her and gun. and she said sit down, and then there it went. Also, to me it seems the camera stayed in the bathroom the entire time, close to where it originally landed.

I agree with you. I just think the camera got kicked around a little in the chaos.

 

[Southern_Meadow]

Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
Tonite on "HLN After Dark" I will take you into our full-scale model of the #JodiArias crime scene with the #JodiJury @HLNtv 10pm eastern!

If only you hadn't invited Jose Baez, Vinnie, I would tune in.

 

[katiecoolady]

Vinnie Politan ‏@VinniePolitan
Tonite on "HLN After Dark" I will take you into our full-scale model of the #JodiArias crime scene with the #JodiJury @HLNtv 10pm eastern!

This is how that went down:

Mike Brooks: i wish we had a full scale model of that closet we could act out her story in

Vinnie: Let's do it!

Mike grabs his hammer.

Meaning this is a guy thing like building a fort.

(which I don't mind I will watch it).

While our BETH KARAS is getting laid off. We need our Beth. Give me my Beth. I want my Beth. Beyond this trial I mean...

 

[leebee52]

Aren't they kind of synonymous?

Yep. Maybe I should just think of them as thing 1 and thing 2.

 

[katiecoolady]

If only you hadn't invited Jose Baez, Vinnie, I would tune in.

WHaaaaaat???? How is HE in on this? Oh no. Just no. That's just wrong. Now I hate it.

 

[OldCarGal]

I have thought the same about the sex tape. The beginning and the end sound like a normal conversation but the middle part where all the sex fantasy is going on sounds disjointed from the rest of the conversation. It just does not "flow" right to me. I am also bugged by the fact that during this supposedly long conversation that you hear very few sounds from the phone itself being moved. If you have a phone to your ear, you can hear when the person on the other end moves their phone as in readjusts its position and such and since this was recording both of them there should have been many, many phone movement sounds heard but there weren't.

After TA's supposedly ejaculates during the sex fantasy conversation and then goes to clean himself up you can definitely hear a distinct break in the sound. Then when he comes back nothing is mentioned about what just happened between them. There are no comments about "that was good" or anything. It was like he had just gone to take a leak or something and then comes back to the phone.

I just have serious doubts about the authenticity of tape as a whole.

There is something hinky about the tape. Jodi did say the phone had the ability to stop & start. Was that in case there were obvious breaks in the conversation? At the beginning of the tape, Travis states his first and last name. HUH? The phone was not found untll two years later, gave someone else a chance to edit it in Jodi's favor??