Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #26 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[zoey]

Im all for that one!! arty:

I had a group of friends that was following the FCA case and we planned to do that as well..... and then.... :thud:

lease: dont let that happen again!!

Depressing hour came early that awful day. :blushing:

 

[Sleuth13]

And why gratuitously mention that what seemed like a thoughtful gift was all ruined and unacceptable to Jodi? What a b-word

Exactly!! I felt like her talking about the "melted" chocolate was a put down to TA. Felt like she was trying to call him out as if he couldn't even send her chocolate correctly.

Btw, I wish TA would have motorboated the he// out of his drunk friend just for kicks and to really give JA a reason to pout! LOL

 

[Sleuth13]

Perfect!!! Yes have a few with your choice of drink!!!

NOM! NOM! NOM! Delicious!!

 

[HarvestMoon]

I was wondering if that first location where they stayed in a hotel - forgot the name of the place, but she said it was in the middle of nowhere and maybe said it was in the desert. If anyone remembers the name of this place, I'd like to see if it was anywhere Jodi could have disposed of the murder gear while trotting across the country post-murder.

Ehrenberg

 

[lil_buddy]

It is far more likely that Jodi sent Travis a big box with multiple presents for Valentine's Day. If he sent her that box, where's his note? She saved everything else, so where is it?

...OR that JA sent such a package to some guy she had a crush on once OR she got once OR some girl she knew got once (and made her totally jealous) OR she read about in one of those Sweet Valley High novels when she was 12...

 

[Wishbone]

I think the issue is that we don't know when and if Travis ever had sex with Jodi. It's just her word and she has no credibility and will try to portray him in a very bad light just to save her life. Her thinking is that Travis is dead, he's happy now and has nothing to worry about so I can say what I want. He would want me to do that. Not saying he didn't have sex with Jodi, just that we cannot trust what she is saying because there is no proof. Some of what she is testifying to could be half truths, the truth or lies. We already know she lies and taking an oath means nothing to her. Lying to a police officer is a crime and yet she had no problem. She could have said at any time that she needed an attorney. Until we know the facts placing a label on Travis as a hypocrite is premature and we do have to remember he's the victim who cannot defend himself. We are obligated to give the defendant the benefit of the doubt so why wouldn't we do the same for the victim.

Until someone speaks for Travis I reserve my judgment. jmol

If a fraction of what she has said happened, then they were having some kind of sex. They were seeing each other for around 2 years and IMO it’s not a stretch to believe they had sex. I don’t like labeling TA, he’s just human and probably led her on for at least part of their ill fated relationship. I believe his image was very important to him and I also think Jodi wanted him to keep his image because she wanted to be a part of it. I can see her playing along with being the dirty little secret because in the long run she wanted his image for herself. Her goal was to share his status and his life.

 

[PASA]

OMG I just read my neighborhood is on lockdown! A road rage incident right up the road involving a shooting and the shooter fled and the whole neighborhood is on lockdown! Guess I need to stay in here w/ you guys!

I just read a school was on lockdown but didn't realize neighborhood too. Please be careful, keep your doors locked.

 

[ohiogirl]

Sorry to skip ahead and jump in who-knows-where, but I haven't seen anyone bring up the case I think the defense is basing JA's defense on:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/classics/betty_gore/8.html

That link is the really long version, but in a nutshell, the defendant here was able to explain overkill in self-defense because of her upbringing and psychology. She said that the woman she killed (Betty Gore) came at her first with the ax, and in the process of defending herself, she kind of snapped. The overkill was a result of the trauma of being attacked, combined with her pent-up feelings and inability to vent her past 'traumas' (fairly minor ones, please note!).

She mutilated Betty Gore with an ax and the jury believed that the overkill made sense in her case.

Juan, I hope you have read this case! (I'm sure he has, but I see a direct friggin' parallel, so I want to bring it up bigtime!)

eta: she covered it up, too! So there was massive overkill and a definite attempt to hide her involvement, and the jury still let her off. It's what this defense is going for, perfectly

So, you think she is going to say that TA brought the weapons into play?
Boy, this would be a lot for the jury to swallow, but you never know.

 

[TorisMom003]

I think people would argue that point with you especially if you read the New Testament.

But then there is the eye for an eye in the New Testament. So, Jodi stabbed Travis 28/29 times, sliced his throat from ear to ear and shot him in the head and based on the New Testament the same should be done to her, yes? So that means death for Jodi, imo.

MOO

 

[Really?]

Yep, once she got near Travis, it wasn't funny any more.

Yep and there is now way TA could have had a smooth relationship with her..this was a big clue.

The whole way his PPL business worked was on smaltzing and schmoozing with people. She never would have been able to handle it.....moo.

 

[zoey]

Exactly!! I felt like her talking about the "melted" chocolate was a put down to TA. Felt like she was trying to call him out as if he couldn't even send her chocolate correctly.

Btw, I wish TA would have motorboated the he// out of his drunk friend just for kicks and to really give JA a reason to pout! LOL

Ya know that's what I was expecting to hear :seeya:

 

[Anita Richman]

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Here's an interesting bit of trivia. July9th is the birthday of Jodi Arias, Amanda Knox, and O.J. Simpson. (Knives used in all 3 murders.)

:what: Do you think Amanda Knox was guilty of the murder?!

 

[StephanieHartPI]

I'm sorry but I have to address the "dated for only five months" issue.

The months they "officially" dated are February through June 2007, which would make it only FOUR months and not five!

This is such a pet peeve of mine!

I'm constantly correcting my ten year old daughter with this over-sight (she says 9am to 12pm is 4 hours).

I'm sorry, but we just can't let her take another month of a title she doesn't even deserve.

I agree. So what is the "first meeting" date, and Break up date, and Date of death?

Heck I go 3 to 6 years in between men, she goes about 5 minutes in between (if that) I have dating in between but gosh, I don't call them my Bf's that fast...I have to think things through a while ha ha

 

[RadarLuv]

OMG I just read my neighborhood is on lockdown! A road rage incident right up the road involving a shooting and the shooter fled and the whole neighborhood is on lockdown! Guess I need to stay in here w/ you guys!

Are you in riverside, some fired cop has gone rogue.

 

[KathrynL]

Sorry to skip ahead and jump in who-knows-where, but I haven't seen anyone bring up the case I think the defense is basing JA's defense on:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/classics/betty_gore/8.html

That link is the really long version, but in a nutshell, the defendant here was able to explain overkill in self-defense because of her upbringing and psychology. She said that the woman she killed (Betty Gore) came at her first with the ax, and in the process of defending herself, she kind of snapped. The overkill was a result of the trauma of being attacked, combined with her pent-up feelings and inability to vent her past 'traumas' (fairly minor ones, please note!).

She mutilated Betty Gore with an ax and the jury believed that the overkill made sense in her case.

Juan, I hope you have read this case! (I'm sure he has, but I see a direct friggin' parallel, so I want to bring it up bigtime!)

eta: she covered it up, too! So there was massive overkill and a definite attempt to hide her involvement, and the jury still let her off. It's what this defense is going for, perfectly

Wow, I remember that one. Unfortunately you never know when a jury will fall for such a thing, which is scary. Hopefully not in this case...we can't murder everyone who ticks us off. I saw her rage with TA peek out yesterday, still there IMO.

 

[Bravo]

Also,, it's important to note JA refused sex with D. When she decided to "save herself for her husband". She told him "no". So there is proof that JA had experience, ability, and agency in turning down sex she did not want, and that does not match her "I'm just a girl who can't say no" defense.

Excellent Excellent point :seeya:

 

[BritsKate]

This is big-time moo. K?
Here is a big reason I do not think she is straight up psychopath - we haven't seen a history of criminal behavior.
She has always kept a job, no stealing, seems to always want to pay her way - not psychopath behavior.
Definitely controlling, lack of empathy, no boundaries indicates Cluster B - I'm thinking borderline and/or narcissistic personality disorder.

Check out this episode of Wives with Knives. Whatever this lady has, I think it is what Jodi has:
http://investigation.discovery.com/tv-shows/wives-with-knives/videos/the-scorned-socialite.htm
Note what the forensic shrink says at the end, she'll never kill again as long as she never falls in and loses love again.

Psychopathy isn't synonymous with anti-social personality disorder though - it's just as close a medical diagnosis as one can get to psychopathy afaik.

Many, many psychopaths have no history of criminal behavior and if someone is comorbid they may present as one personality disorder even though they are afflicted with more than one.

There has been an amazing amount of research done into non-violent and non-criminal psychopathy as well. Google brings up a ton of useful links. HTH

http://sciencefocus.com/feature/psychology/could-you-spot-psychopath

 

[ohiogirl]

I am really looking forward to Martinez' rebuttal case. It will be interesting to see what he can present to refute JA's picture of him without using hearsay. I really hope he has some concrete facts that he can use. It's a shame that the defendant can say anything she wants that he said to her, but I don't believe anything he said to anyone else will be allowed to be used against her. We sure do like to coddle our murder defendants, don't we? jmo

 

[Sleuth13]

Texan here too. Yeehaw!

I knew there was an extra special reason why I like your posts!!

 

[spyhouston]

Every time I see the pic of Jodi in that borrowed dress and Travis during that fancy banquet evening, I think without a doubt that the minute she went with him to the banquet and got a taste of the 'affluent' side of life, she vowed to get him to marry her...and she went about it the way she knew how. Sex, joining his church, sweet little soft syrupy voice, trying to connect with his friends. How frustrating for her that nothing worked. She then was determined to make him pay with his life. I'm so sorry for Travis and everyone who loved him. I am holding my breath that this jury will be brave enough to give her the DP.