Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #28 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[RadarLuv]

My personal opinion:

Most people may be like me - They don't own a gun. They may have ZERO EXPERIENCE with guns.
So a gun - ANY GUN - would look extremely dangerous and deadly; especially if that gun was being pointed at them in any type of threatening manner.

Personally: If anyone - regardless of their physical size was pointing ANY TYPE of a gun at me: I'd be inclined to obey them, rather than take a chance of being shot during the process of "knocking the gun out of their hands."

Not everyone has the same knowlegdge you seem to have about guns - SO, perhaps Travis Alexander lacked knowledge about the type gun Jodie Arias used. Perhaps Travis Alexander had the same type "fear of guns" I have, and that many many other people have of guns. That's somethng we just don't know, right?.

That's my opinion - if it helps your understanding at all.

However, I would be surprised if TA was a stranger to guns. Mormons are quite the gun advocates themselves. They also advocate the DP. Not saying ALL do, as the rest of us, but I'll bet TA was at some point introduced to firearms. Lots of boys in that family, and boys will be boys. I think he didn't see it coming, got hit in the heart, tried to fight, but was fading fast. Wasn't fast enough for JA, she freaked, hence the overkill.

 

[GetSmart]

On the Southeast coast and in the Southeast in general, it is an entirely different situation. I don't know many homes without a gun.

Well I guess my avatar gives me away ...

 

[Lucylu7]

Thinking that hasxbeen bypassed. He only "beat" her BUT didn't leave marks. But I agree I'm waiting for it. In fact my dog can testify that when she was going over her childhood I yelled at my computer and said "don't say it~~don't go there" and from your computer to mine she didn't! !!! Saying that there is always the psychologist :banghead:

Yes,I wouldn't be surprised to hear the psychologist say that Jodi shows signs of having been abused, but her mind is blocking it.

 

[borndem]

http://youtu.be/bFEoMO0pc7k

Sweet Georgia Brown's remix: "Ain't Nobody Got Time for Dat"......

That's right JA, you with your silly wooden spoon and he spun me around stories! Ain't nobody got time for dat! :floorlaugh:

This was great -- we all need to take a little break & go with this a minute. It's catchy & clever! And it does look like the Harlem Boy's Choir -- a great group of singers!

Thanks, 'Honey.

 

[LambChop]

Let's get back to the subject matter and not veer off into the topic of guns and gun control...This post lands randomly.. :gthanks:

I agree. You need to protect those little birdies. lol I just love them.

 

[atthelake]

Is Beth Karas going to be on websleuths radio tonight still? Not sure if I am going to log onto Tricias site where we can chat live, or merely call in and listen. 760-825-0933

 

[Lucylu7]

Something no one has pointed out but I need to. Even *if* (and that's a very dubious if) Travis was "looking at pics of boys and masturbating to them" that isn't illegal UNLESS the pictures were of naked boys. If these were just random pictures and not child then technically-speaking Travis didn't break any laws. Laws of his church, perhaps, but not laws of AZ.

JM will for sure ask her why, if she walked into such a scene, she didn't walk out of his life for good and/or report his behavior to someone in the church.

Nothing, but nothing about what they are trying to insinuate has ANYTHING to do with a self-defense claim, where JA was in fear of her life or had a reason to be on 6/4/08. Not one iota.

Exactly!I don't believe this story for a second, they are trying to muddy the waters and make one person on the jury hate Travis and feel sympathetic towards Jodi.

 

[grammieto5]

I think JM has this. If he doesn't why is he just letting her ramble on. Remember when Nurmi asked JA a question and before she could even answer JM objected. Nurmi said she had not even opened her mouth to the judge. I think JM said I know. He is so far ahead of both of them they will not even have a clue what hit them. There will be so many objections it will be mind numbing. JM does not suffer fools and liars lightly. He will do everything in his powers to make sure Travis will be remembered for the fine young man he was. She will be the one shown to be the trash and psycho that she is. JA has left doors wide open with all the babbling that she has done along with someone that does not have a clue how to ask questions. She said she did it. I am going to leave it to JM to wrap it all up in a tiny package with a huge red bow and shove it down her lying throat. I do not think there will be a sweet letter attached either.

I wonder what this Judge will do about the objections? I am really begining to question this Judge, is she another Judge Perry????? I guess we'll have to wait and see if she'll "allow" JA to answer Juan Martinez's questions.

 

[LotusPawprint]

I think she kind of had to allow it because the defense expert said it's relevant to Jodi's state of mind on June 4.

I think the judge knows it's not true though, and she's aware that the prosecution has good evidence to impeach Jodi's testimony.

I really don't understand why the false testimony the murderess will give about Travis and the filthy child is even admissable.

Not only was there no on the computer (yeah, yeah ... double negative), but there was no child . This is a serious, disgusting allegation.

Other than being a character assassination, what bearing does it have on her state of mind on June 4th. She wasn't acting as some hero vigilante going around eliminating sex offenders. She was not a victim of childhood sexual abuse (or adult sexual abuse) so seeing Travis doing what she alleges is completely unrelated to her defense. It's strictly a low blow. There's no proof that Travis was a pedophile (I feel disgusting even typing that), heck they're stretching the truth by painting him as a sexual deviant who "abused" JA sexually.

I'm really unsure why this was let in. I'd like to know the legal reasons for it. This better boomerang back on the defense when the jury is disgusted as we all are. They're no longer acting professional in my book.

 

[KMouse]

I know..if I ever had to kill someone in self defense [ which we know JA did not do] I'm sure I'd be so traumatized I'd halve to check into a hospital and collapse. I doubt I could drive anywhere.

Plus she came in contact with a law enforcement officer less than 24 hours after the killing. He didn't notice anything was odd about her either other than her licence plate being upside down.

 

[minor4th]

I really don't understand why the false testimony the murderess will give about Travis and the filthy child is even admissable.

Not only was there no on the computer (yeah, yeah ... double negative), but there was no child . This is a serious, disgusting allegation.

Other than being a character assassination, what bearing does it have on her state of mind on June 4th. She wasn't acting as some hero vigilante going around eliminating sex offenders. She was not a victim of childhood sexual abuse (or adult sexual abuse) so seeing Travis doing what she alleges is completely unrelated to her defense. It's strictly a low blow. There's no proof that Travis was a pedophile (I feel disgusting even typing that), heck they're stretching the truth by painting him as a sexual deviant who "abused" JA sexually.

I'm really unsure why this was let in. I'd like to know the legal reasons for it. This better boomerang back on the defense when the jury is disgusted as we all are. They're no longer acting professional in my book.

It's because questions of credibility are for the jury to determine. The judge cannot pre-screen witnesses and make a credibility determination and then exclude the testimony -- she would definitely be overturned on appeal because she would have usurped the jury's role.

 

[KMouse]

I didn't know this. I bet she s**t a brick!

Well if she did she was calm, cool, and collected. I don't think she s**t anything.

 

[KMouse]

For what it's worth, Elizabeth Johnson was not given lunch from the jail. She was told she could save some of her breakfast to bring along for the lunch hour. :floorlaugh:

Inmates are often housed in a sheriff's holding cell during lunch and get a bag lunch.

 

[minor4th]

I wonder what this Judge will do about the objections? I am really begining to question this Judge, is she another Judge Perry????? I guess we'll have to wait and see if she'll "allow" JA to answer Juan Martinez's questions.

I haven't seen anything this judge has done wrong or really even questionable, at this point. She's responding appropriately to sleazy, underhanded defense tactics and strategies. She can not limit the number of objections made by either the defense or the prosecution - she can only rule on them when they are made.

Jodi will have to answer Juan's questions, period.

 

[KMouse]

This might be a dumb question, but I've never watched a trial before. I keep seeing people mention getting to the "mitigation phase" and don't understand what that is exactly. Is that the same as the sentencing phase? Where if they find her guilty, then she can plead for her life, etc?

The mitigation phase is to try and reduce the penalty portion of the sentencing. Jodi should receive a lesser sentence because she was abused as a child by her mother wacking her with a wooden spoon. <barf>

 

[LotusPawprint]

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I love love love the picture of you and your dad!

By admitting this I'm going to loose all my street cred here at WS (since I had so much to begin with ) but that picture you posted made me cry.

There's nothing quite like a dad/daughter bond if you are so fortunate to have it. You clearly do.

My dad was my best friend and my shining star, he passed a couple of years ago and that void never fills. One of my favorite quotes,

There's something like a line of gold thread running through a man's words when he talks to his daughter, and gradually over the years it gets to be long enough for you to pick up in your hands and weave into a cloth that feels like love itself.

Happy birthday to your dad!

 

[KMouse]

Yes. Movies. Blah blah blah, says jodi.

I wanna know how she got the MASSIVE amount of blood off of her and her property between TA and new boyfriend! I have seen some people say she showered over him.

I initially thought this to be plausible but for all you gals out there, we shed hair during a shower. I know I have a pretty good handful of it after ever shower cause mine is processed, and a lot less processed than Jodi's. I don't see how she would have done that. So, how did she clean up so sparkly. Also I think she dyed her hair because blood on bleach blonde hair would change the color, just like dye.

Did you ever see the photo of the empty shower stall after Travis' body was removed? It was pretty darn clean except for the immediate area where his body was. There was also a plastic cup found in the shower.

 

[LotusPawprint]

It's because questions of credibility are for the jury to determine. The judge cannot pre-screen witnesses and make a credibility determination and then exclude the testimony -- she would definitely be overturned on appeal because she would have usurped the jury's role.

So what limits, if any, can there be on a defendant's testimony?

(I know I'm asking ridiculous questions, I'm just p o'ed about this)

It's pretty much a free for all, no holds barred, unfiltered JA - whatever she says goes.

While the prosecution is on a tight leash fighting to get in crucial evidence that's completely relevant.


Excuse me while I scream into a pillow.

 

[nursebeeme]

Tricia's Radio Show with Beth Karas is coming up soon! (45 minutes)... Go here to get the link to the show and discuss!

Beth Karas on True Crime Radio with Tricia 10 Feb 13 at 8pm EST - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

You'd be surprised. It is not wise to go round advertising you are carrying concealed. Just like its not a good idea to put an NRA sticker on your front door. Thieves know you have goodies And will wait til you leave to the coast is clear to rob you of them. No one says "HEY everyone, I am packing!" Or I have an arsenal worth ten's of thousands of dollars inside.

And if you put a proud not to have a gun in your house sticker, you're making an open invite to come on in, I have little to protect me and mine, don't know if you're here just to rob us or kill us, so I'll wait to find out.

Can you imagine putting the trash and boxes on the curb to let them know what you got for Christmas. Window shopping for thieves. Easy pickens.

It's always been said that in Texas if someone is coming in a window or door uninvited, and you shoot them, you better drag them back in the house and finish them off so they can't sue or have you arrested for attempted murder. Sorry not to be cold ,but they are there to harm you, and it sure would cut down on court cost and stop you having to pay for their care and upkeep in prison better, than what you can for your own family.