Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #37 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Mrs G Norris]

http://s1309.beta.photobucket.com/user/wasthinking/media/TravisAlexander_zpsad4bd0f7.mp4.html

I'm sure someone has posted this already, but I came across it when I clicked a link earlier. I found this to be extremely telling having them in order and in real time! She claims that he wanted her to take pics because he had been working out, but most of them are dark and blurry, etc. She claims to be into photography and that's how she takes pics to show off his body? Ummm no. I've always doubted her story, of course, but seeing them put together like this pushed me further into believing he didn't even know she was there until that surprised pic.

Or.... IMO the only pic that looks "posed" to show off his muscles would be the profile one where he has his arms crossed over his chest (that pic is first) and possibly the first shot of his back. Maybe he let her take that pic and then she "left" AKA creeped through the closet and took pics of him without him realizing it. Those first two pics have decent lighting and the rest (before the face straight one) are super dark... turned off flash so he wouldn't notice her? Hmm..

Stuff like this bugs me and I know we'll never know the real truth!

Thank you. I agree I don't think he knew she was there either after viewing those pics in real time. They were stalker pics. I think she was supposed to be gone at this point and somehow snuck back in. The murder happens very quickly and as soon as he realised she's there too .. but she had the gun / knife so she can hardly say that they started fighting and she had to go and get a gun and knife because there simply wasn't time. She had to at least have the knife on her. So ... taking stalking photos of him in the shower with weapons within easy reach. So basically I think the crime had no motive other than her creepy stalker need to possess him completely. That's why I think she's dragging this out as long as possible too .. I think she's relishing being linked to Travis after death and having to talk about him every day because she's still obsessed.

 

[dgfred]

I believe I recall that 5:27:18 and 5:28:54 were supposidly him sitting down already. IIRC

 

[LadyEdith]

Does anyone know what month Travis sold the BMW to Jody ?

Jodi told Flores (in interrogation iirc) that the check they found was the FIRST payment. The agreement was that she would pay $100 month minimum, more if she was able. The check LE found was for $200, and in the memo it said "April and May". I think it also may have said "BMW".

 

[StephanieHartPI]

5:27 and 28 he is alive and standing...

He is down first at 5:30

 

[Zuri]

The large amount of blood dripping down Travis's right shoulder in the dragging photo could be because he had already been shot above his right eye.

IMO, the large amount of blood is from the throat wound. The shot to the head that ended up in his left maxillary sinus would have IMO caused blood to come from his nose and moth.

ETA: Mouth

 

[dgfred]

5:27 and 28 he is alive and standing...

He is down first at 5:30

That is exactly what I thought... but everyone said those two before were him already sitting.

I am not arguing with you... my scenario matches yours to a T.

 

[bobloblaw]

The large amount of blood dripping down Travis's right shoulder in the dragging photo could be because he had already been shot above his right eye.

The ME said the bullet wound didn't bleed (because he was shoit after death). Glad we can have this discussion.

 

[StephanieHartPI]

and everyone is correct, if the gunshot wound to the head was first (as I suspect) it did cause him to fall backward, there is no evidence he got up again. Then next photo is the ceiling, then her dragging him. So it did incapacitate him which would not be in dispute.

 

[dgfred]

MEs are not perfect 100% of the time.

 

[bobloblaw]

and everyone is correct, if the gunshot wound to the head was first (as I suspect) it did cause him to fall backward, there is no evidence he got up again. Then next photo is the ceiling, then her dragging him. So it did incapacitate him which would not be in dispute.

Where would the defensive wounds to his hands come from then?

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

If Jodi admits on the stand that she staged the robbery of her grandparents home, can she be charged with robbery as well during this case? Or will she face another trial? Is there a penalty for her admitting guilt even if she claims she stole the gun for protection?....

I think her grandparents would have to be the ones to file charges.

 

[dgfred]

Hey Steph... I believe it is in the trial transcripts that the picture guy said those pics were him sitting already.

 

[nanny1]

Jodi told Flores (in interrogation iirc) that the check they found was the FIRST payment. The agreement was that she would pay $100 month minimum, more if she was able. The check LE found was for $200, and in the memo it said "April and May". I think it also may have said "BMW".

Thank you. I was wondering if all those checks Jody wrote out to Travis in January of 2008 were really car payments.. I really don't believe Travis borrowed money off of Jody for any reason.

 

[StephanieHartPI]

Just looks to me the first "thing" that caused him to go down did not cause any blood below the neck, as he is clean, but clearly down.

He said the shot was from a distance, so that would be what I thought, he kneels or bends, she fires a shot. He falls back. But is incapacitated not dead, now she will finish this and either dragged him out or he crawled, there is 2 minutes lapse, she discovers he is not dead.

Now she could have stabbed him in the neck first (he had so many wounds there) and that caused him to go down and that explains no blood on chest... then gunshot came later. Blood on the face could just be from turning him dragging him, it was dripping around the neck up area.

 

[Rosebutter]

Where would the defensive wounds to his hands come from then?

How did the blood get all over the bedroom if he was shot first in the shower and was incapacitated there??

 

[TartLemon]

Jodi said she went to Walgreens to buy the KY, but wasn't dressed (?) right and went to Walmart instead. I've never seen any Walgreen with a dress code.

Yeah, I thought that was strange too. BUT in context of everything else JA has said it's pretty normal for her.

 

[StephanieHartPI]

if he is not down yet when he is slumped on the floor of the shower at 5:30...

what did he sit down for? and fall over like that ?

 

[WhoaIsMe]

If you look at the location of the stab wounds, he sustained them to his head, trunk, back, legs, feet. The autopsy diagram may be helpful to you. Also, scalp wounds bleed a lot.

IMO, the throat wound severing his carotid amongst other things, would have caused the most blood loss. The heart would have been pumping more rapidly as he had already lost blood and the heart pumps faster as a compensatory mechanism to get blood to the vital organs . He would have lost his total blood volume in maybe a minute or less. The normal human body has 5 liters of blood. Imagine pouring a gallon of milk down the drain. Respectfully IMO

I can see where it could have been one of the other wounds and in no way was I saying that it was happening at that time, he could have been moved from the spot where the wound happened by the time the picture was taken and depending on the position he was in when the wound was inflicted, a good amount of it (the blood) could have been on the front of him, however, there were pools in the hall, we don't know how much because some of it was probably on the tile and some of that appears to have been cleaned or somehow removed, possibly when TA was dragged down the hall but we can still see the pools on the carpeting. He bled a lot in that hall. So I'm inclined believe it was that horrifying neck wound that I accidentally viewed on another forum without warning We will never really know because the only person who could tell us is a lying, liar, who lies A LOT.

 

[LambChop]

That is your interpretation. My point was to show how TA could have call JA's bro a fa****** (which if you had watched the testimony, you would know that JA claimed) and it was totally innocuous.

If you are incapable of understanding that, that is your problem. I do not see how or why it should be mine.

All theories are welcomed here as long as we identify them as theories. While facts are important, we don't always have them so brainstorming to find out what could have happened goes on a lot here. And I'll bet LE does a lot of that, too. But as long as everyone understand right up front that what is being introduced is just a theory of what could have happened I don't think that is a problem. Well, not for me. Some posters have some pretty good theories. :twocents: & jmo

 

[dgfred]

if he is not down yet when he is slumped on the floor of the shower at 5:30...

what did he sit down for? and fall over like that ?

Some said mad, disgusted, sad... or posing for more pics. I don't know either.