Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #38 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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  • #401
I understand that JM said it was to avoid an appeal issue--for bringing in potentially irrelevant evidence not really going toward whether or not she killed him. Personally I think it would be relevant to motive (jealous ex-girlfriend), but I'm not going to second-guess him on that. You have to be careful in death penalty cases.

Thanks.
 
  • #402
I know in these more modern days (not like my old court reporter machine when new stuff was just coming in) they have a system that shoots out a transcript pretty fast, and I'm not sure when they get it, but they could get a transcript of today maybe late tonight..

I have even seen a Court Reporter on break transcribe some if something unusual came up (and provide it to both sides) My guess is yes, his helpers in the court are doing their darnedest to listen and catch things and do the old fashioned note passing! Usually lean over and scribble on his yellow legal pad? that is common.. "hey JM ME contradicted ABCDE, bring it home man..."

:-) and he will...he'll iron things right out when he gets up to do redirect...

Which he is doing here. i can hear it coming...

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Judge: Redirect

Prosecutor (JM): Sir...Sir, in terms of the seqencing of the wounds, do you remember having an interview with this individual with the glasses? (Pointing at Nurmi) Do you remember having an interview with him?

ME: Vaguely, I do remember the Defense interview...

Prosecutor (JM): (interrupting the answer) YOU were interviewed with regard to this case right? (excitement level rising, sounding agitated)
And you have a copy of that interview don't you?

ME: I do.

Prosecutor (JM): And you WERE asked about the sequencing of these injuries weren't you?

ME: Yes

Defense: OBJECTION, leading!
Judge: Sustained

Prosecutor (JM): Alright, did you talk to them about the sequencing of the injuries?

ME: Yes

Prosecutor (JM): And...and at anytime did you stop the interview and say "no I don't want to talk to you about the sequencing of the injuries"

ME: No (sounding quiet, almost defeated? or upset)

Prosecutor (JM): And...were you asked about the sequencing of the injuries?

ME: Yes

Prosecutor (JM): And what did you tell them about the interview that you had with THEM?

ME: I felt that the gunshot wound may have been last but at any event...um,
the gunshot wounds and the wounds to the neck would have had to have come after the defensive wounds of the hands.

Prosecutor (JM): And is that what you told us today?

ME: yes

Prosecutor (JM): Now sir with regard to procedure or the process that takes place when a body is brought in...

Typically they get daily copy -- they'll get a transcript of every day's proceeding at the end of the day or the next day.
 
  • #403
Wow meow...I agree. From not kissing her after their car encounter, to not being "emotionally present" for hotel sex. For every time he didn't "claim her" by grabbing her butt, for the "🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬" remark and for every time he "used" her for sex while intending to find a "nice" Morman girl to marry...that's why Travis had to die that kind of painful, personal death. He died because Jodi answered the question her lawyer keeps asking her these past few days, "How did that make you FEEL, Jodi?"

Also agree. In her mind, she was making him FEEL as she did. Again, "in her mind".....

MOO
 
  • #404
There were several without the flash - I'd say most of them. Who knows why though?

Although I can't speak to the application of flash or not in this situation but Jodi simply wasn't a professional photographer, although she liked to pretend she was. She's usually pictured with a Canon Rebel and his camera was a Sony so one could argue she did not know how to use it.

Also with regard to the blur, though I could be mistaken, I believe that some of the recovered pictures were not full-sized photos but low resolution "thumbnails."
 
  • #405
:furious: I would really love for the Mesa PD to haul Gus Searcy in. Claiming Jodi called him the night Travis was murdered and told him Travis is dead. What is wrong with him? Doesn't he understand that he had a legal duty to call the police if what he is saying is true? He has the nerve to complain that the prosecutor did not contact him but he should have been on the phone before a prosecutor was ever involved making a police report. That is something he could have done right over the phone. He did not need anyone to call him in order to give the information he held.

I know, it's probably not even true but I do not care. The law is the law and he should be held accountable when he opens his mouth and says such things. Imagine if it was true. Imagine what we might know had Travis been pulled from that shower 4 days earlier.

:moo: :moo: :moo: :moo: :moo: :moo:


ETA: bbm

This is such a mystery for me, MandyLeigh.... I don't see how what he said can be true, either. IMO, his saying that JA called to report TA dead makes no sense for any reason.

1) Why would Searcy make it up and testify to it? It certainly makes him look un-caring for TA's sake and it, as you say, makes him look derelict in his duty as a friend of TA and as a law-abiding citizen. To say the very least, his inaction surely didn't help his friend, TA. Further, in some eyes, it could make him appear to be an accessory to the crime. In no way does it make Gus look good. Makes no sense, period, IMO.

2) Why would JA tell him that TA was dead within the same 24-hrs (or so) that she had been there and killed him? She's no genius, but is she actually that stupid? How does she know that he is dead? Everything she says, as we know, is said to benefit herself; she has thought the whole thing out with her diabolical pre-planning and her cunning; it certainly makes her look guilty, guilty, and guilty. And it doesn't make her look good in any way. Makes no sense, period, IMO.

Does anybody else have another view that I am just missing? <smh>

All JMHO.
 
  • #406
ooh I have one.
She's ashamed of saying the word 'penis' aloud.

Ahahahaha! I am, too!

It's been a hurdle I have had to overcome, though, as a preschool teacher. We always use proper words when helping the children with toileting. So when little boys prefer sitting to urinate, I have to remind them to slightly "lean forward so your penis points into the bowl".

I still hate saying it, and I have been teaching for 15 years, lol!
 
  • #407
I am eager to hear her explanation of such deadly weapons that trip. Even when she has given us more detail than we care to hear about her life, and the "abuse" she has never described the abuse as "bad" or that she was ever really injured.

She really seemed to indicate her mom's wooden spoon was bad. Travis, not so bad.

I don't see any statement that she was in fear of her life ever. So now, you are officially broken up, he has someone, you have someone and you surprise him with a trip to AZ, but before leaving your house you bring a gun and a knife?

Why now? He back handed you, but not really and didn't hurt. He shoved you, but not as hard as your dad.

None of these incidents rise to the level any person would suddenly be in fear for their life.

Oh wait, he bent her finger.

So now they are officially not a couple.. why bring the weapons now?

Really...just to kill him. There is no other earthly reason you would bring them if you did not plan his murder.

Fwiw, I don't know that there's any evidence that she left home with a knife. The only evidence I've heard about the knife is that it has not been found and that none were missing from Travis's house. I don't take the latter as even circumstantial evidence that she brought the knife with her since LE has absolutely no way of knowing what knives were in the house to begin with to say that none were missing. There also was a mention of knives in the dishwasher, but nothing I saw about any of those knives not being the potential weapon or about whether the dishwasher had or had not been run through a cycle. jmo
 
  • #408
Wow meow...I agree. From not kissing her after their car encounter, to not being "emotionally present" for hotel sex. For every time he didn't "claim her" by grabbing her butt, for the "🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬" remark and for every time he "used" her for sex while intending to find a "nice" Morman girl to marry...that's why Travis had to die that kind of painful, personal death. He died because Jodi answered the question her lawyer keeps asking her these past few days, "How did that make you FEEL, Jodi?"


While I am in the shot first ( I want Flores to make storybook nighty-night time tapes)...ahem...

Your post is spot on ! :rocker:
 
  • #409
Exactly. Even *IF* Travis had attacked her, once he was no longer a threat, the reasonable thing to do is get out of there and call 911. I fully expect her to say she was scared, panicked or blacked out since she has no justifiable explanation for continuing to slaughter him and her actions afterward.

MOO

Yes and she drove and drove right over to Ryan's house and when she woke up she was grinding against him.
 
  • #410
Typically they get daily copy -- they'll get a transcript of every day's proceeding at the end of the day or the next day.

What I find very interesting is Dr. Horn already had the opinion the gunshot came last but in court he was shown the photo of Travis for the very first time down with his throat cut with Jodi's shoe and pant leg showing. It supported his long held opinion that the gunshot came last. He even said it was a possibilty that the victim could have even been dead when shot.

The defense tried to talk him into saying the blood was coming from the head wound but it was clear to him and (me) that it was coming from his slashed throat.

IMO
 
  • #411
A little O/T, but I just read on Christie Paul's twitter (she's a host on TruTV) that TruTV is going to be cutting back to only 2 hours of coverage a day starting on March 4th.

Grrrrr.....I suppose the rest of the time will be filled with their stupid shows such as Wipeout or whatever that ridiculous mess is called.

I started a topic here about it :
TruTv Cutting Coverage - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

All I can say is they better not be cutting back on one second of Juan Martinez cross OR his closing.
 
  • #412
You know you're on to something there. I was wondering how she could explain the weapons. Blame them on Travis of course! He demanded she steal that gun and bring it with her! To use as a "prop" for the "photo shoots".

It's either that or she intended to commit suicide in front of him.

Or both.

I think she is going to go bigtime with the suicide scenario. She has already set it up a few times. JMO

But I am not sure if she can sell that. Why would she be taking photos of him if she intended to kill herself that night?
 
  • #413
"...in the meantime, smile, say cheese"

Unbelievable.

If her sociopathy wasn't glaring before , then just take a look at this. KNOWING she slaughtered him and she can outline her "few reasons" she's SMILING. SMILING.

yeah, I agree, this needs to find it's way to the jury.

I know, right?!? But if JM showed clips of this video interview in his opening argument, would it be entered as evidence? I don't know how that works, but that would make me happy. If they get to see the whole video, they can see the mug shot, her applying makeup, and her different demeanor.

I would love to see a complete list of evidence entered thus far. If such a lists exists, could someone point me in that direction? TIA, and sorry if this has been answered.
 
  • #414
BBM

There goes her self defense claim if this is her version of the story. Once he was briefly unconscious, she had plenty of time to flee and call 911 and report his attack on her and her defensive actions.

For some reason I can't get the court minutes to open right now, but I remember either hearing or reading that the DT was trying to get "duty to flee" (incorrect term?) thrown out.
Along with first degree.
Along with the term "victim".
Along with sealing the evidence on Jodi's computer.
ect, ect, ect.
They are desperate, and it shows.
 
  • #415
If I recall correctly, she was testifying that TA didn't want her hugging Abe at PPL events, especially in contemplation of their becoming -- in her words -- 'official'.

She claimed that Travis directed her to write Abe a note explaining that she was accountable to TA for remaining faithful and not conveying the 'wrong idea' to other men, by showing them public affection, etc. This was to paint TA as a controlling manipulator who psychologically imprisoned and possessed her as his personal sex slave -- so much so that she pretended to be little boys and girls, barely satisfying his nearly-insatiable deviant and perverse sexual appetites, so that he wouldn't act out on his 'pedophilic' predilections. :liar:

But I digress.

JA said that she was uncomfortable communicating the no-hug message to Abe, so she tried to soften the language such that it didn't sound unduly harsh.

I.e., more testibaloney.

Did they state the date of this email? I didn't catch it if they did.

Anyone?

TIA! :seeya:
 
  • #416
Ok just a dumb question. Regarding her "spideys". She testified that she couldn't fit her legs through the small "boys" leg holes but it fit in the butt area. A. How could she even pull them up to her "butt" if she couldn't get the legs pulled up.

B. How was she fitting in these under the "schoolgirl" outfit she testified about if her legs didn't fit through the holes?

Did she address this lie?
 
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  • #418
Fwiw, I don't know that there's any evidence that she left home with a knife. The only evidence I've heard about the knife is that it has not been found and that none were missing from Travis's house. I don't take the latter as even circumstantial evidence that she brought the knife with her since LE has absolutely know way of knowing what knives were in the house to begin with to say that none were missing. There also was a mention of knives in the dishwasher, but nothing I saw about any of those knives not being the potential weapon or about whether the dishwasher had or had not been run through a cycle. jmo

There was evidence early on that they tip of the knife was broken off. Perhaps embeded in his skull or something? Its all vague but I remember something to that effect.

Also wouldn't the roommates notice a knife missing? I just assume she had some kind of hunting knife in her purse that she used to slash the tires as well.
 
  • #419
Jodi is trying to present herself as a Savior of the World against the abusing pedophile. It was her special mission even if she's burned at the stake for it.
 
  • #420
Fwiw, I don't know that there's any evidence that she left home with a knife. The only evidence I've heard about the knife is that it has not been found and that none were missing from Travis's house. I don't take the latter as even circumstantial evidence that she brought the knife with her since LE has absolutely know way of knowing what knives were in the house to begin with to say that none were missing. There also was a mention of knives in the dishwasher, but nothing I saw about any of those knives not being the potential weapon or about whether the dishwasher had or had not been run through a cycle. jmo

I think everything entered from the witness stand is evidence including circumstantial evidence. I think the roommates would know if a large 6in bladed knife was missing. That would narrow down a lot of knives he had in the home. It couldnt be a kitchen knife either imo since it took chunks out of his skull when she stabbed him in the top of the head. It had to have a thick substantial blade and kitchen knives are thin and would flex and the tip would break when using such force.

The tire slashing has been entered into the trial. It was in the 911 call and entered into evidence. I think the jury will take that CE and believe the tire slasher was Jodi and that would mean Jodi had a knife prior to the murder.

IMO
 
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