Jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #38 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[MaryAnn]

As far as I'm concerned Jodi is a liar, murderer and a spiteful B. Not that she's not allowed to date whoever she wants but to me it looks like she's dating that Abe guy just to get back at Travis for all his flirting, etc. They had the most toxic relationship ever. Too bad Travis didn't have the foresight to realize what Jodi was capable off.

 

[minor4th]

You're right about her not responding to the question.

But she did finally admit it (yes), muttered under her breath. She said she called Travis and said (paraphrasing) "guess what? I'm coming to Arizona tonite" and that he (TA) said, "what made you change your mind?"

It does synch up with her phone records. I personally believe she did call to say this, and that Travis did wait up for her.

Also, during that interrogation, I felt there were a few instances where JA was about to admit things, but Flores interrupted or his phone started vibrating.

I think she needs a dose of sodium Pentothal.

I also got the feeling she was on the verge of confessing some things at a couple of points in that interview. It seemed like she was so darn close, and then she would just veer off in another direction

 

[SoBeCzar]

I think she had it planned. Why the gas cans, the stolen gun, the slashed tires. She figured if she couldn't have him no one else could!! Kind of like someone else we know only she sacrified the life of a precious baby for her own selfish evilness. :furious:

I have seen it mentioned some think she was going to torch the place to hide evidence. I think she originally was going to use the cans for fuel so she would not be seen gassing up in the area. She tried to claim she got lost and removed her phone battery to also hide that she was around there. I remember a case where the ex wife stalked her ex and his new wife (or girlfriend). She purchased a fuel can and they could never prove she drove to his house. Jodi had said cameras at intersections would show she was not around there. Most posters think that was why her tag was upside down. She had this pre meditated.

 

[BritsKate]

This is my theory:
People, and a jury, might be able to get around false claims of abuse. Abuse, as I keep droning on about, is very often subjective. (An abusive relationship isn't though.) They might concede Jodi was wronged, used, or mistreated. If that were the case I think LWOP would be likely.

But Jodi herself threw a wrench into the works. She proposed the ultimate vilification of a murder victim - with NO evidence to support it - seemingly for her own entertainment (just watch her on the stand when recounting the worst of what Travis supposedly did) in addition to attempting to ensure the jury would not, could not, sympathize with the victim and instead feel empathy for her.

She called him a pedophile. She, imo, either engineered or manipulated evidence and testimony with the added intent to lend veracity to her claims. I believe she is going to pay very dearly for that mistake.

If not here and now, then another otherworldly plane.

 

[Madeleine74]

That is what I am afraid of, that the jury has forgotten about the brutality and is just trying to get through the day. LWOP is better than nothing but she will have some type of life.

You better prepare yourself because the choice is totally in the hands of 12 people. Either way she will be behind bars for many decades--yes, even if she gets the DP she'll not be put to death anytime soon, if ever.

The call for vengeance and suffering is understandable but at the same time troubling, particularly in light of reading about people's religious beliefs. Ummmm...vengeance is not what is preached.

The most important thing is justice and that she won't be free in the world and won't be able to commit another murder (assuming the prison she is in has her fully contained, and I believe they will). Her "life of crime" has come to an abrupt end. That should be cause for relief! She will be punished.

 

[minor4th]

Good question! I forgot about the huge bottle of KY! And we know for sure that she had bought it on her way over, right? She had a receipt for it? Or is that just us speculating?

She wanted to make sure it showed up in the pictures?

 

[SoBeCzar]

I'm convinced that's why they're doing it. To confuse the timeline for the jurors and perhaps, hopefully, leave the jury with the impression there were dozens upon dozens of brutal, abusive attacks against Jodi.

And when the Pros cross examine her, her attorney is going to interrupt and object continuously to throw off their rhythm. That is about all they can do.

 

[Pink Panther]

She wanted to make sure it showed up in the pictures?

Ok. Then why not leave it there? Why did she take it away?

 

[shelley921]

The fact that they had no one else in common apart from his mother (who didn't have her phone number) would lead one to believe that this wasn't much of a meaningful relationship. She didn't understand/know that he had left on a trip to Europe? She's either mentally deficient or they were both inept communicators.
Interesting but what does this have to do with this case?

Inept communicators is right - the girlfriend was an immature adolescent jumping to conclusions. Talk about working yourself up into a tizzy over nothing. At least the guy gets rid of her after he realizes she's a nut job.

 

[shelley921]

This is my theory:
People, and a jury, might be able to get around false claims of abuse. Abuse, as I keep droning on about, is very often subjective. (An abusive relationship isn't though.) They might concede Jodi was wronged, used, or mistreated. If that were the case I think LWOP would be likely.

But Jodi herself through a wrench into the works. She proposed the ultimate vilification of a murder victim - with NO evidence to support it - seemingly for her own entertainment (just watch her on the stand when recounting the worst of what Travis supposedly did) in addition to attempting to ensure the jury would not, could not, sympathize with the victim and instead feel empathy for her.

She called him a pedophile. She, imo, either engineered or manipulated evidence and testimony with the added intent to lend veracity to her claims. I believe she is going to pay very dearly for that mistake.

If not here and now, then another otherworldly plane.

good one. agree and hope this comes to pass.

 

[Zuri]

You better prepare yourself because the choice is totally in the hands of 12 people. Either way she will be behind bars for many decades--yes, even if she gets the DP she'll not be put to death anytime soon, if ever.

The call for vengeance and suffering is understandable but at the same time troubling, particularly in light of reading about people's religious beliefs. Ummmm...vengeance is not what is preached.

The most important thing is justice and that she won't be free in the world and won't be able to commit another murder (assuming the prison she is in has her fully contained, and I believe they will). Her "life of crime" has come to an abrupt end. That should be cause for relief! She will be punished.

You put this very eloquently and ITA. I think a lot of people struggle with the thought of actually taking someone's life. My whole career has been about saving lives, however I have no problem with her being put to death. It is not about vengeance. It is about what is right.

 

[Kensie]

You better prepare yourself because the choice is totally in the hands of 12 people. Either way she will be behind bars for many decades--yes, even if she gets the DP she'll not be put to death anytime soon, if ever.

The call for vengeance and suffering is understandable but at the same time troubling, particularly in light of reading about people's religious beliefs. Ummmm...vengeance is not what is preached.

The most important thing is justice and that she won't be free in the world and won't be able to commit another murder (assuming the prison she is in has her fully contained, and I believe they will). Her "life of crime" has come to an abrupt end. That should be cause for relief! She will be punished.

I personally have mixed emotions about DP but in her case, so far, I think she deserves it. I just hope that if she does get LWOP, I hope the taxpayers do not have to pay for her to get a college education or other things like that.

Justice is extremely important.

 

[Zuri]

I personally have mixed emotions about DP but in her case, so far, I think she deserves it. I just hope that if she does get LWOP, I hope the taxpayers do not have to pay for her to get a college education or other things like that.

Actually, the tax payers no longer fund PELL grants for prisoners. In 1983, through Senator Biden, my father brought that very thing to Senator Pell. He had no idea that prisoners were receiving these grants and getting a free education. Congress then passed an amendment taking away that right to prisoners. My father felt that there were too many deserving kids who were not in prison that would benefit from these federal education grants.

 

[Pink Panther]

I personally have mixed emotions about DP but in her case, so far, I think she deserves it. I just hope that if she does get LWOP, I hope the taxpayers do not have to pay for her to get a college education or other things like that.

I don't (have mixed emotions about it). It takes years and years and countless appeals before anyone gets the actual death penalty. Look it up. Most people just die (of natural causes) before their "day". The primary thing a DP does, is limit the person's access to fun and games. They are fairly isolated, have limited recreational activities (ie tv, sports, etc...) AND that's about IT! The DP = what most people think LWOP is. Usually, a DP conviction means the person won't get out. That's all I care about.

moo

 

[Kensie]

Actually, the tax payers no longer fund PELL grants for prisoners. In 1983, through Senator Biden, my father brought that very thing to Senator Pell. He had no idea that prisoners were receiving these grants and getting a free education. Congress then passed an amendment taking away that right to prisoners. My father felt that there were too many deserving kids who were not in prison that would benefit from these federal education grants.

Fantastic. I feel better now.

 

[BritsKate]

I lived in a non-DP state and now live in a non-DP country. Even having the possibility of a death sentence is somewhat foreign to me. I really have no strong views...except...

I very passionately believe the family and friends surviving a victim should have the right to what they wish. Ultimately, it is they who will have to face the coming days without the person they loved and somehow come to terms with their grief.

For some families a death sentence is unconscionable. But for others, like Travis' family, it is very much the desired outcome. I believe the choice should be theirs to make - since it was Jodi's to take Travis from them.

MOO

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Actually, the tax payers no longer fund PELL grants for prisoners. In 1983, through Senator Biden, my father brought that very thing to Senator Pell. He had no idea that prisoners were receiving these grants and getting a free education. Congress then passed an amendment taking away that right to prisoners. My father felt that there were too many deserving kids who were not in prison that would benefit from these federal education grants.

Please extend my gratitude to your father! :rocker:

 

[JusticeJunkie]

One reason I am anxious for this case to move forward and finally get resolved is that every aspect of her, him, them, her craziness, his proclivities, her reasons for x, y, z, are just not that interesting, but they get repeated overandoverandover.

I've probably read at least 500 entries that theorize her reason for the murder (and all say essentially the exact same thing). Maybe another 1,000 entries that theorize how T.A. wasn't into her but was into the sex. Then hundreds upon hundreds of entries that hope for a conviction but fear the worst. Yawwwwn. It's like a semi-bad show that is rerun every.single.day.

It's almost mundane, really, except for the crazy murder at the end. Once she is convicted and put away and the attention on her abates, I think TA's family will finally be able to get some peace. This uninteresting chick does not warrant the amount of attention she gets.

Hmmm. I would think you would want this to carry on as long as possible. It does, after all, allow you to proclaim you love for Juan every day.
Haven't counted the number of those posts, but I do enjoy all the 1,000 entries, and also the 500 entries - they are not mundane to me.
I suppose each poster has their posts they enjoy.

 

[moonbird]

Good question! I forgot about the huge bottle of KY! And we know for sure that she had bought it on her way over, right? She had a receipt for it? Or is that just us speculating?

i was looking through the states evidence receipts.. does anyone remember what this purchase was for? (if it was determined, that is...)

 

[Madeleine74]

What happens to JA in prison is out of everyone's control. She'll be in the prison system just like every other felon. She won't be a threat to you or me or anyone's children. Society will be safe from her. She'll have access to prison resources, depending on her classification, but never again will she use a cell phone, surf the Internet, have privacy, have a future, have a husband, have children, have anything but an existence. She'll make the best of it because that's who she is and that too is out of everyone's control. Like all other killers, she'll be warehoused and closely monitored. Whatever programs are in place in the AZ prison system aren't going to be canceled because people want JA to suffer.

It isn't like prison is such a great place to be--I wouldn't trade my life to be in prison for whatever program is imagined to be fab. Would you?