jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #49 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Kensie]

Well, my time has come to an end for today. Hope everyone has a great weekend
and I look forward to catching up on Monday.

 

[momof7]

I wish we had access to some records of hers--seeing that the girl has no gag reflex when she butchers a man she "loves" the sky's the limit with what she feels comfortable doing in sex work.

I get the sense from her that she's a grifter who gets a kick out of fooling people--posing as a devout Mormon convert who can't speak above a whisper while she engages in pretty kinky sex with Travis. She has no shame. On that sex phone call, Travis is yawning and falling asleep--as a mother and wife, my first instinct was to think "why isn't she saying--hey, are you sleepy, honey? Why don't I let you go." NOPE. She gets a kick out of people's discomfort. Sadistic glee.
I'd also be interested in what type of clothes she wore. Were they from Saks or Forever 21? That's also a good indicator.

I still don't have any kind of fix on what her life looked like when she ran away from home and dropped out of high school at 17 until she killed Travis. I wonder if she had any AKAs. She's a freak, that one.

See for me, I got the impression she could care less if he was tired. She hung on to every single moment. Keeping the conversation alive. TA was probably growing more distant and she knew it. She doesn't even probably realize he is tired. Its not on her radar how someone else feels, this about her obsession.

Kelly

 

[KBisMe]

The AZ Supreme Court denied her stay, but it's not clear whether they have already ruled on her special action (interlocutory appeal).

I am not an Arizona attorney, but I have practiced in Arizona on a couple of cases by being admitted pro had vice (just means you're admitted to the AZ bar temporarily for a particular case). In the cases I was involved in, there were several special actions filed before there was a final verdict -- I think AZ makes it pretty easy to bring interlocutory appeals, so I would guess this is fairly common.

Maybe AZLawyer can speak about this more coherently.

I had to google what interlocutory appeals means, lol. I think I get it. Do you know what the special action they filed was about?

 

[BrownRice]

I wish we had access to some records of hers--seeing that the girl has no gag reflex when she butchers a man she "loves" the sky's the limit with what she feels comfortable doing in sex work.

I get the sense from her that she's a grifter who gets a kick out of fooling people--posing as a devout Mormon convert who can't speak above a whisper while she engages in pretty kinky sex with Travis. She has no shame. On that sex phone call, Travis is yawning and falling asleep--as a mother and wife, my first instinct was to think "why isn't she saying--hey, are you sleepy, honey? Why don't I let you go." NOPE. She gets a kick out of people's discomfort. Sadistic glee.

I'd also be interested in what type of clothes she wore. Were they from Saks or Forever 21? That's also a good indicator.

I still don't have any kind of fix on what her life looked like when she ran away from home and dropped out of high school at 17 until she killed Travis. I wonder if she had any AKAs. She's a freak, that one.

Grifter is a perfect description if her.

 

[jevipo74]

ITA. I think that the "dropped glasses" were probably thrown glasses, if it was actually true. She is so deceptive, I don't believe anything she says.

That's what I think. How does one drop a glass "at" someone?

 

[TexMex]

I'm not sure about the weather in Arizona, I am a Texas gal myself, but I can tell you the month of August in Texas is hotter than a cat on a hot tin roof...cook eggs on sidealk hot, and here in h-town, humid...

eta, ya, I laughed when Jodi said she never thought of it lol

True that ima! But it's perfect weather tonight for World's Championship BBQ at the Houston Livestock Show & Rodeo. Cooking all day and the band starts after dark.

:Banane35: (Jack n Coke)

 

[perfectvirgo]

So, do you think the car was in neutral and that's why it was destroyed, or do you think Jodi's lying and the key was in and it was in gear? (I know nothing about this subject!)

Yep, it has to have been in neutral or she would have been dragging it on locked rear wheels. She just doesn't understand the mechanics of it. Bottom line is she still ruined it but her description of how is wrong.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Their time spent doing their duty as citizens cannot theoretically be any reason to impose a particular sentence- theoretically.

True. But they are human beings.

 

[Simply Caustic]

Judge Stephens presides over other trials, hearings and court matters unrelated to this case (in the morning before JA and in the afternoon after JA) and works a full week, as does the court and the court personnel.

The schedule of THIS case alone is NOT a reflection of the courts' hours of operations or this judge. The judge and attorneys likely always work through lunch and probably barely have time to wolf something down (or take a working lunch unless a matter requires more formality).

This is what I've learned from court observers, folks like Beth Karas, reading HHJSS's court calendar/docket, etc.

I get frustrated at all the jabs at the laziness/cream-puff work pace of the AZ court - even though I know it's just because folks don't know about all the other stuff. So I try to set the record straight.

They all work hard, long hours every weekday, every week.

Just an FYI

Judges and attorneys DO work hard, and especially on the prosecution side - have a full docket of cases to handle (regular court calls in addition to the current trial at hand.)

That being said, I've had more than a few looooooong lunches with attorneys that have a trial going on - in Chicago - and although they work darned hard, they also take the time to enjoy their lunches and breaks. I wouldn't classify them as working though lunch with any frequency, but your mileage may vary, of course. Just my two cents, and all that.

 

[McNEverest]

Here's the part of the jury instruction on self defense relating to a duty to retreat:



http://www.azbar.org/media/292098/2011_cumulative_supplement.pdf

So my guess is Defense wants this instruction included in the jury instructions, but the State is arguing that Jodi was not lawfully in Travis' home once she began attacking him, so they would argue that this instruction on "no duty to retreat" would not apply to her.

So iirc JM pressed JA to recall her luggage was already in the car and stating she was getting on the road would imply Travis expected she was leaving his home?
JA then claims the office incident happened and they went back upstairs which shows she was able to remain in his home by invitation.. hmm :waitasec:
sry am still confused on the 'felony murder' in AZ :doh:

 

[norest4thewicked]

My daughter has a house in AZ, about 15 minutes from where the trial is being held. She left her home in the midwest yesterday to go to AZ for a couple of weeks. (Terribly cold where she lives right now). She called me this morning and told me that I should come down for a couple of days so I could go to the trial. I am seriously considering it! I'm just afraid that I might not be able to get inside. I'm excited though, just thinking about the possibility!

 

[dani]

I am not sure if this was mentioned, I was just reviewing the Defense's request (that was denied) today to get rid of the DP and in the document it has Nurmi and Willmott's contact info... Willmott has an email that is "@willmottlaw.com"... what is Nurmi's?? "@gmail.com"!! I don't mean to be disrespectful toward him but come ON, seriously? A professional attorney, gmail?
Also the Stay document says "Respectfully submitted this 29th day of February, 2013" I know I live under a rock but uhh.. the 29th is next week. Any idea why it is dated incorrectly?
Here is a link to it http://media2.abc15.com/html/pdf/Stay.pdf
I am glad it was ~denied~

BBM: There is no "29th" next week. It's February.:seeya:

 

[atthelake]

I almost forgot about it but wasn't it brilliant that JM brought in her journal entries (with her hand-writing) AND THEN the magazines. I didn't even think about whether the magazine messages were written by her. I just assumed it to be true. That was masterful.

moo

I miss so much, and I am so glad that you others are catching thanks!

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[Simply Caustic]

Hiya, everyone! Not sure if this has already been discussed...(oh, who am I kidding - you guys already thought of this, dissected it, and moved on, by the time it crossed my mind!) - but regarding the magazines she was attempting to give to her friend...

So given the description that she stated of the attempted transfer of property (magazines) the procedure appears to be similar to that in Cook County - you fill out a form, signing your property over to a friend/family member/visitor, who has already been cleared to receive the documents/papers/property (with a signature by a C.O.) A guard flips through the magazine and gives it to the visiting room officer (or fill in the proper title here...you get the gist)...and then the visiting room officer ALSO flips through/checks the property before handing it to the visitor (at the conclusion of the visit - on their way out. It is NEVER given in the room with the inmate.)

My question: Her friend, evidently, never received this property. At some juncture in the process, the writing was caught by an astute guard, who then would (according to Cook County Jail procedure, unsure of in AZ) notify the inmate that their property was being confiscated for..and there are a litany of things that could occur over (writing inside, thus attempting to pass a message...inappropriate photographs/nudity...sexual content...gang content...etc)

So, Jodi SHOULD have been ready for this (magazine thing). But she didn't seem to be. At least, her attorneys appeared to be taken aback. Did she simply forget/refuse to tell them? Or did she think that, sheerly by writing in the magazine (in Cook County, even writing 'I love you blah blah my little love muffin' would be grounds for not authorizing the property transfer, because all written correspondence MUST be properly checked by the officer in the mail room.). So, did she imagine it wasn't a big deal, that the prosecution didn't catch it? Did she bring up the notations she made, while on the visit with her friend - and then, the C.O. doing the monitoring of the visit checked out the magazine, after Jodi made reference to notes in that same item?

Basically, I'm thinking that her grandiose thinking did her in, in this instance - that she thought they didn't pick up on it, that she was free and clear. Otherwise, why didn't she try to come up with some b.s. to cover it, like she did, blaming the guard for the interview?

Thoughts?

JMO

 

[Harmony 2]

Screen captures for anyone who wants to compare the handwriting:

diary entries

magazine messages

Note: the glare from the projector made it difficult to capture the images so not the best quality...

 

[kscornfed]

Ah ha - DUTY TO RETREAT is the phrase. Defense fighting to keep it out, but if not, her SD claim is a gonner - like her.

Duty to Retreat - first line of SD - she could have run out of the bedroom rather than turn into the bathroom/

i've asked this question several times. aren't you required to retreat IF YOU CAN before you can claim self defense?? how can the defense keep it out?

she had multiple chances to leave that day. or how about this? don't go over there in the first place if you're so dang terrified of him.

:furious:

 

[Callisto]

BBM: There is no "29th" next week. It's February.:seeya:

Lol oh yeah Duh, me! that's right, no leap year this year! So that means that request is made on an imaginary day? Am I super tired and seeing things?

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[AZlawyer]

Minor, I had a question about this motion. I think what they are arguing is that they want to postpone (until a full hearing) talking about the "aggravating" factors that would allow a DP sentence.

Does that mean they don't want to actually talk about the murder itself? That we're all agreed she killed him but we're not going to have question-and-answer about guns, knives, etc., until we have this full hearing?

No, the stay request was just a request that the trial court not be permitted to move on to the penalty portion of the trial (assuming JA is convicted) until the AZ Supreme Court rules on their argument about the death penalty.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

My daughter has a house in AZ, about 15 minutes from where the trial is being held. She left her home in the midwest yesterday to go to AZ for a couple of weeks. (Terribly cold where she lives right now). She called me this morning and told me that I should come down for a couple of days so I could go to the trial. I am seriously considering it! I'm just afraid that I might not be able to get inside. I'm excited though, just thinking about the possibility!

Oh, I hope you'll think hard about taking her up on her suggestion. What an opportunity!! If you can't get in, you could still have a great mom/daughter day together.
Hope you get to go.
It's so great to get actual voices from the courtroom. Bet it's awesome.

 

[AZlawyer]

i've asked this question several times. aren't you required to retreat IF YOU CAN before you can claim self defense?? how can the defense keep it out?

she had multiple chances to leave that day. or how about this? don't go over there in the first place if you're so dang terrified of him.

:furious:

BBM

In Arizona, no, you don't have to retreat if you had a legal right to be where you were when the other person threatened deadly force against you.