jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #50 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[newsjunkie]

I hope JM questions her about what she claims happened during the shower photo shoot, and then gets a stop watch out and just repeats the words she said. It would take longer than 1 min 2 sec to just repeat the words. . .let alone have the actions take place.

 

[Whisperer]

Which makes me wonder...are all her ex boyfriends accounted for? I don't think I've read anything about this but someone else may know the answer.

Good question...

if any aren't alive, she's not going to mention them...lol.

 

[Pensfan]

I still cant understand how some people feel that jm was not effective during his cross, which was one day met with lots of stalling and jodi's attempts to play dumb. so fa he has disproved her tavis broke my finger lie by showing her finger in may just normal and fine. we saw her diary the day that her finger was broke with perfect penmanship even tho she was supposed to be sporting a popsivle splint.

he disproved her baptismal rape story by showing she was an active and willing participant usuing her diary.

He took the legs out from under her travis was jerking off to boys pics lie. by proving that jodi was at work and travis was at his fellowship.

he showed that jodi conspired to tamper with a witness by sending out hidden codes/messages in a magazine. we now know tbis person is matt m and he was involved in the conspiracy to lie and paint travis as an abusive pedophile.

we know that jodi likes to confront others by her driving to her ex's new gf and poking in their business. a friend was so scared he gave jodi the wrong door # and warned the girl..big red flag.

We also see her true demeanor. she is not the scared passive abused shaking vi tim. she's arrogant, defiant and snappy..goes against her victim scam.

Plus more. These are big points showned by juan and its only day one. he told us about the crime and her actions in the CIC ofthe trial. the cross is to point out the obvious lies she told on direct. he is rebuilding travis to the jury and exposing the real jodi and tearing the legs off her "defense" you have to py attention to see the significance. this is only day one. why be so harsh? I think some of this is personal.

He also disproved her statement that she couldn't tell anyone about Travis beating her because she didn't want anyone to think poorly about someone for whom she cared.........annnnnnnnnd she referred to her own sister as dumb.

 

[LizardQueen74]

I still cant understand how some people feel that jm was not effective during his cross, which was one day met with lots of stalling and jodi's attempts to play dumb. so fa he has disproved her tavis broke my finger lie by showing her finger in may just normal and fine. we saw her diary the day that her finger was broke with perfect penmanship even tho she was supposed to be sporting a popsivle splint.

he disproved her baptismal rape story by showing she was an active and willing participant usuing her diary.

He took the legs out from under her travis was jerking off to boys pics lie. by proving that jodi was at work and travis was at his fellowship.

he showed that jodi conspired to tamper with a witness by sending out hidden codes/messages in a magazine. we now know tbis person is matt m and he was involved in the conspiracy to lie and paint travis as an abusive pedophile.

we know that jodi likes to confront others by her driving to her ex's new gf and poking in their business. a friend was so scared he gave jodi the wrong door # and warned the girl..big red flag.

We also see her true demeanor. she is not the scared passive abused shaking vi tim. she's arrogant, defiant and snappy..goes against her victim scam.

Plus more. These are big points showned by juan and its only day one. he told us about the crime and her actions in the CIC ofthe trial. the cross is to point out the obvious lies she told on direct. he is rebuilding travis to the jury and exposing the real jodi and tearing the legs off her "defense" you have to py attention to see the significance. this is only day one. why be so harsh? I think some of this is personal.

I know initially I was a bit disappointed that he didn't take a more measured approach. I was hoping he would not be all out gang busters bc I thought it would lose its effectiveness. BUT, in retrospect, I have changed my mind and trust it's all a perfectly planned strategy. He's a smart guy and I have to believe that there is a method to the madness.

 

[Whisperer]

I still cant understand how some people feel that jm was not effective during his cross, which was one day met with lots of stalling and jodi's attempts to play dumb. so fa he has disproved her tavis broke my finger lie by showing her finger in may just normal and fine. we saw her diary the day that her finger was broke with perfect penmanship even tho she was supposed to be sporting a popsivle splint.

he disproved her baptismal rape story by showing she was an active and willing participant usuing her diary.

He took the legs out from under her travis was jerking off to boys pics lie. by proving that jodi was at work and travis was at his fellowship.

he showed that jodi conspired to tamper with a witness by sending out hidden codes/messages in a magazine. we now know tbis person is matt m and he was involved in the conspiracy to lie and paint travis as an abusive pedophile.

we know that jodi likes to confront others by her driving to her ex's new gf and poking in their business. a friend was so scared he gave jodi the wrong door # and warned the girl..big red flag.

We also see her true demeanor. she is not the scared passive abused shaking vi tim. she's arrogant, defiant and snappy..goes against her victim scam.

Plus more. These are big points showned by juan and its only day one. he told us about the crime and her actions in the CIC ofthe trial. the cross is to point out the obvious lies she told on direct. he is rebuilding travis to the jury and exposing the real jodi and tearing the legs off her "defense" you have to py attention to see the significance. this is only day one. why be so harsh? I think some of this is personal.

:bow:

 

[moonbird]

I didn't remember that the girlfriend interviewed at the end of 48 Hrs Picture Perfect was in fact Deanna Reid.

I wish the clip was longer for more context as it was pretty lukewarm but it was interesting to see and hear her. She said he was always able to control his temper when they argued.

Still wonder why computer was in her name?

would you please give me a link for that? i don't recall seeing her! TIA

 

[DAWN TREADER]

As good as Juan's cross is I can't wait for his closing argument because that's when he will present the jury with all the reasons why they can and should find Jodi Arias guilty as charged.

 

[quadlatte]

Originally Posted by Karmady
I appreciate the non-confrontational tone, so I'll say this. I know how the office runs and I know that some might choose to stick with it. In my experience, most do not. I don't know what it says about Juan since I don't know him personally. My opinion is that I don't like his style and I don't think he did a good job on Thursday. I'm not alone in that opinion (which I feel compelled to put out there since I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't think he's a God) and I completely understand that others disagree and STRONGLY disagree. That doesn't make me a bad person with en effed up agenda worthy of scathing dismissal, imo. But if that's what I get, that's what I get. I'm okay with it. Hitting the hay, so if there's further discussion I'll catch up with you tomorrow. Peace

I'm copying and pasting this as I don't see your posts karmady unless they are quoted, which this one was.

Just keepin it real.

I've seen plenty of "confrontational tone" both about Juan Martinez (repeatedly and not just about this week's cross) and about the Alexander family. And those are just about the posts that show up quoted (for me).

I'm trying very hard to keep this post within the TOS and if it's not, I'll accept the instruction and delete it.

You claim your posts dismissing Juan Martinez are just about this week and the cross. I think a simple search would show otherwise.

I also think your posts have indicated a person who's been in that courtroom far more than the first day. Just a few days ago you posted about how the whole courthouse held a certain belief about one objection Juan Martinez made. Interesting.

Originally Posted by Karmady
Really? Cause I know the court didn't love it. I personally have never, ever, heard counsel speak to the court that way. It was the topic of conversation at the courthouse today and no one thought it was cool. They all thought it was crazy and foolish. The story was told with wide-eyed "can you believe he said that" incredulity -- and not in a good way.

If you're gonna throw out tidbits then at least keep it consistent.

And no I don't think you work for the defense team either. At all.

I apologize to the moderators if this is inappropriate.

Some things require addressing sometimes I think.

After all this IS Websleuths.

With that, I head out for the night.

:seeya:

ITA!!! Thanks for putting that out there. I will sleep better now. :rocker:

 

[Callisto]

I still cant understand how some people feel that jm was not effective during his cross, which was one day met with lots of stalling and jodi's attempts to play dumb. so fa he has disproved her tavis broke my finger lie by showing her finger in may just normal and fine. we saw her diary the day that her finger was broke with perfect penmanship even tho she was supposed to be sporting a popsivle splint.

he disproved her baptismal rape story by showing she was an active and willing participant usuing her diary.

He took the legs out from under her travis was jerking off to boys pics lie. by proving that jodi was at work and travis was at his fellowship.

he showed that jodi conspired to tamper with a witness by sending out hidden codes/messages in a magazine. we now know tbis person is matt m and he was involved in the conspiracy to lie and paint travis as an abusive pedophile.

we know that jodi likes to confront others by her driving to her ex's new gf and poking in their business. a friend was so scared he gave jodi the wrong door # and warned the girl..big red flag.

We also see her true demeanor. she is not the scared passive abused shaking vi tim. she's arrogant, defiant and snappy..goes against her victim scam.

Plus more. These are big points showned by juan and its only day one. he told us about the crime and her actions in the CIC ofthe trial. the cross is to point out the obvious lies she told on direct. he is rebuilding travis to the jury and exposing the real jodi and tearing the legs off her "defense" you have to py attention to see the significance. this is only day one. why be so harsh? I think some of this is personal.

I totally agree.. The total cross time, minus breaks and stuff is what, like 3-4 hours filled with sidebars and JA/DT reviewing evidence? When you lay the revelations out like that it shows his true talent! All these are so significant in redeeming TA and bringing about the truth!! Yeah JM is being aggressive but it serves a point. He also bounces topics, but again this serves a point. He knows what he is up against, he has on the stand a pathological manipulator! JMO, but some people don't seem to *get* it

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[Boodles]

Exactly. Right out of the gate with a bogus "double standard" argument. EVERYONE knows it's perfectly fine to insult your own family members lol, but no one else had better do it! My kids call each other names daily. But their friends had better not. And their mom?! No way. I couldn't believe Martinez even argued that AT ALL, much less strenuously. :::sigh:::

Karmady, I agree that wasn't a good example of the double standard, and was surprised he opened with that.

B/c you're right. I can say anything about my family, bash them all I want. But everyone knows they can't say bad things about these same people, regardless of what I have said. That's not allowed!

Luckily, JM's faux pas was quite recoverable, IMO.

 

[PASA]

I was looking at a map of her itinerary. Starting in northern California, she drives south. This is the wrong direction for going to Ryan in Utah. But it is exactly the right direction to go to Travis in Arizona. That tells me it was always the intent to go to Arizona, and the Jury will see it too, I think.

Then, leaving Travis house, she heads NW instead of North to Ryan and goes through Nevada. Why would she do that? Because if she went from Southern California directly to Ryan in Utah, she would have to go through Nevada. So she can pick up some Nevada receipts to show she went in that direction instead of to Arizona.

I think all the visiting of friends was a cover to head South, because the intent all along was to go to Arizona. I hope JM calls her on this.

JMO

On Dr. Drew there was a guest on who said he loaned ja money to go to Arizona. She told him she had to go to Arizona to see Travis (paraphrasing).

To get to Utah from here, you either go the way she did (by where her phone hit the cell tower) or you can go through Flagstaff/Page then west to catch I-15 to Salt Lake.

Found the youtube link to the interview with guy who loaned ja $$.

Jodi Arias Trial - Interview With Man Who Gave Jodi Money - Dr Drew - YouTube

 

[TartLemon]

Witness tampering might assure an added 10-20 years, right?

 

[gngr~snap]

The truth is simple IMO .
Travis is dead because he would NEVER hurt a woman
on purpose.
Even if she was holding a .25 on him.

He was a wrestler. He was bigger and stronger than her.
IF HE HAD CHOSEN to do so he could have easily taken that gun from her and hurt her BAD.
HE DIDN'T.
I think because she caught him off guard.
Bullets from .25 are so small.

Now had she pointed a pistol with stopping power at him, I could see him
backing off.

SOMETHING IS OFF...
at 1pm he looks kinda out of it.:waitasec:
I KNOW he was not drugged or anything.

 

[molly333]

On Dr. Drew there was a guest on who said he loaned ja money to go to Arizona. She told him she had to go to Arizona to see Travis (paraphrasing).

To get to Utah from here, you either go the way she did (by where her phone hit the cell tower) or you can go through Flagstaff/Page then west to catch I-15 to Salt Lake.

Found the youtube link to the interview with guy who loaned ja $$.

Jodi Arias Trial - Interview With Man Who Gave Jodi Money - Dr Drew - YouTube

This map is not completely right because it leaves out the trip to the Hoover Dam in Nevada after she leaves Mesa. She did not take a direct route to Ryan from Arizona, either, but went NW through Nevada.

But look at the beginning of the trip. Is there any better way to get to Mesa, Arizona from her starting point than that? The visits to friends was a cover, IMO. The map tells the story.


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[cherishtoo]

The truth is simple IMO .
Travis is dead because he would NEVER hurt a woman
on purpose.
Even if she was holding a .25 on him.

He was a wrestler. He was bigger and stronger than her.
IF HE HAD CHOSEN to do so he could have easily taken that gun from her and hurt her BAD.
HE DIDN'T.
I think because she caught him off guard.
Bullets from .25 are so small.

Now had she pointed a pistol with stopping power at him, I could see him
backing off.

SOMETHING IS OFF...
at 1pm he looks kinda out of it.:waitasec:
I KNOW he was not drugged or anything.

You know that? How do you know?

 

[JusticeJunkie]

I still cant understand how some people feel that jm was not effective during his cross, which was one day met with lots of stalling and jodi's attempts to play dumb. so fa he has disproved her tavis broke my finger lie by showing her finger in may just normal and fine. we saw her diary the day that her finger was broke with perfect penmanship even tho she was supposed to be sporting a popsivle splint.

he disproved her baptismal rape story by showing she was an active and willing participant usuing her diary.

He took the legs out from under her travis was jerking off to boys pics lie. by proving that jodi was at work and travis was at his fellowship.

he showed that jodi conspired to tamper with a witness by sending out hidden codes/messages in a magazine. we now know tbis person is matt m and he was involved in the conspiracy to lie and paint travis as an abusive pedophile.

we know that jodi likes to confront others by her driving to her ex's new gf and poking in their business. a friend was so scared he gave jodi the wrong door # and warned the girl..big red flag.

We also see her true demeanor. she is not the scared passive abused shaking vi tim. she's arrogant, defiant and snappy..goes against her victim scam.

Plus more. These are big points showned by juan and its only day one. he told us about the crime and her actions in the CIC ofthe trial. the cross is to point out the obvious lies she told on direct. he is rebuilding travis to the jury and exposing the real jodi and tearing the legs off her "defense" you have to py attention to see the significance. this is only day one. why be so harsh? I think some of this is personal.

If you are sincere, I will be glad to share the things that bothered me. I am in no way saying Juan is not an excellent prosecutor - I believe he is. I just don't think it was he very best day he's ever had, and I worry about the jury understanding some of his subtle points.
Let me know if you really want to know my own personal opinion. I'd be happy to try to explain where I'm coming from.

 

[megmono]

I have the best reenactment photo of the shoe pant leg dragging Travis but I don't know how to do it from my iPhone. Anyone else remember that pic? I found it on google

 

[tinkabella]

Witness tampering might assure an added 10-20 years, right?

You should post this in the legal question thread. i dont think she'll face anytime for this since it was confiscated before leaving the prison.i think they should charge her anyway.

 

[Boodles]

IIRC She had this ridiculous explanation for why she went into the closet. It had to do with the last time he tried to kill her in the bathroom and how she couldn't escape him by running straight down the hall. Maybe someone else remembers this, too. It made no sense to me either.

Particularly since she could have gone left and out the bedroom door and down the stairs instead right and into the closet.

It's all garbage, IMO.

Yeah, and her segue back to a prior year, right in the middle of the murder narrative, was just crazy! I need to listen to that again, because I thought she implied that she went into the closet from the bathroom.

Nothing she's saying makes sense. But I can tell she has spent 4+ years making up a scenario to fit the evidence. But it's too disjointed for her to easily articulate b/c it's a bizarre force-fitted implausible story. It can't be pictured in the mind.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

I have the best reenactment photo of the shoe pant leg dragging Travis but I don't know how to do it from my iPhone. Anyone else remember that pic? I found it on google

I thought I'd seen it at huff post, but I can't locate it there. Do you mind sharing the link, and I'll post the pic?