jodi arias TAKES THE STAND #66 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Gypseagirl]

She's not in Estrella?

Oh, and, just a thought... you could always send the Toblerone to me instead! :great:

I was grocery shopping yesterday and I saw the Toblerone candy and the first thing I thought of was that evil person!!!!!! :banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[katiecoolady]

I'm guessing it was touching base re the trip.

 

[katiecoolady]

I didn't see shoe imprint on that schematic. :waitasec:



:seeya: Hi KCL. Even though you said I can't ask questions, :snooty: I'm going to defy you and give you one to address. What's the story of JA's computer drive. I heard it was damaged, yet they could get some stuff off of it. Do you know the full story of the computer?

Lol SD I'm sorry I don't. But I can ask shana hogan for ya tomorrow.

 

[Sigh Sister]

I didn't see shoe imprint on that schematic. :waitasec:



:seeya: Hi KCL. Even though you said I can't ask questions, :snooty: I'm going to defy you and give you one to address. What's the story of JA's computer drive. I heard it was damaged, yet they could get some stuff off of it. Do you know the full story of the computer?

It's written in the orange area which is the closet. It says shoe impression and is circled. There is an arrow pointing from it to the hallway.

 

[gemvt]

I agree with those who think that Jodi didn't have an invite from Travis for her ill-fated visit. The incredible anger in his text messages on May 26th would not have subsided and I don't believe he would have joked with her about going to Utah instead of Arizona and guilted her into visiting him, as she claims. On June 2, while she was still in Yreka she barraged him with phone calls - they are short enough that they are probably her leaving voice mails or just hanging up - and then he does call her back at 3AM and they have two calls lasting about 18 minutes and 41 minutes. A few minutes after that Jodi calls Travis and they speak for about 3 minutes. We know she had a propensity for hanging up on him per one of his texts, so I am surmising that is what was going on here - and perhaps vice versa. Jodi was on the road 90 minutes later.

None of the calls after that last more than a few minutes and I believe the Verizon guy testified that many of these were sent directly to voice mail. There's no way Travis was happy and excited about a visit from Jodi.


Her testimony is so jarring because you can tell there is a bit of truth in everything she says, but it is wrapped in lies. Jodi describing her arrival at Travis' on June 4:

"He had his back to me and he was on his laptop watching music videos or something on YouTube," said Arias. "I thought he looked cute sitting there at the computer and he was watching really dumb videos … so, I just stood at the doorway looking at him for a minute."

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I'm sure that is exactly what happened - but I am equally sure that she snuck in and surprised Travis.

 

[minor4th]

How did JA get transported from CA to AZ after in custody? Anyone know?

She was extradited so it would have been Arizona troopers transporting her I believe

 

[ElleElle]

Can someone please tell me what date the sex tape was recorded on?

 

[pghbrandi]

Welcome to WS Jolls68!

 

[Steely Dan]

I have visited this site many times, but have just recently registered. What an insightful and intelligent group of people here!

I have been following this case pretty closely and have some questions that I haven’t seen answers to (I hope I’m posting in the right area!):

***I know the knife has never been found. In Jodi’s 2nd interview w/Flores she mentions how Travis shaves ... “he does the whole old fashioned thing w/this little ... I dunno how it works” .. she seems to trail off and change the subject. I imagine she was referring to a straight razor. Did they every recover one from the scene? Could she have stabbed him w/that? She stated on cross that she may have put the knife in the dishwasher ... were these knives tested? I imagine the knife would have been damaged.

***I think the jury asked if the bed sheets were ever tested for blood and the forensics person said no ... why not?!

***there was a very angry text from Travis on 5/26/08 where he calls Jodi a sociopath and says she betrayed him. Was there ever an explanation given as to what happened?

***The defense seems to bring attention to the fact that if she came with the intent to kill him, she could have done it right away. I think this is easily explained. There was a roommate home in the early morning hours, right? She actually only spent about 4.5 hours awake w/him. Also, it may have taken her time to build up the courage to do it and/or figure out how/where to do it. Did the Prosecutor ever bring this up?

***The rope: The story of cutting the rope in the bathroom is not believable (if they were measuring to fit behind the bed, they wold have done it near the bed. Martinez started to touch on this and then got side tracked). The fact that she got rid of it leads me to believe she used it (or planned to use it) during the murder. The sex leading up to the murder may have been an attempt to get him in a vulnerable position (maybe she realized how messy this would be and opted for killing him in the shower?)

***The WEAKEST part of this case? The claim that he so violently attacked her just because she dropped his camera. I don’t think he had a strong reaction when she RUINED his car!

:welcome:

I'll leave the answers to that to the people who know the most about it.

 

[StephanieHartPI]

yes (a P.I.) I am sorting through the photos, It occurred to me the nude photos of her in provocative poses were taken by her with the camera timer. She even took a photo of him at 1:44:50 where he is asleep. Her nude shots are before that so he was not taking them of her.

My original thought was she got there and he willingly engaged in sexual activity and there was consensual "whatever" that afternoon, but now I am not so sure what exactly went on.

Pretty much everything she says is a lie, especially what she really can't help to beat into the ground and make sure she has said over and over like she does not know how to operate his camera, she was not proficient at it. Why keep saying that? Then I realized the very provocative shots of her nude and from the back she took of herself and he was sleeping. So when Mr. Martinez says things like (and her attorney) then you took photos of each other) and she says "Yes" She is lying, he did not take photos of her? SHE took photos of herself and of him.

This is telling me she was either not getting what she wanted from him in bed this trip so she wants to document it for use later. Of course as an amateur photographer she will take any date stamps off easily so she can say these were taken any old time (certainly not the day of the murder) She took a picture of him while he is asleep and she placed the KY Lubricant bottle next to him. I fully believe that is staged. I'm not saying they did not use it for "something", but I now realized she staged these photos. If she staged them, then "why?" They are deleted from the camera so I am pretty sure it was "him" that made her delete the nudes. In doing that, she then knew how to delete. Later on, she deleted the two incriminating shots of him down and bleeding and the ceiling shot because she now knew how to delete photos.

I start by asking myself what is there physical evidence they had sex? No. Did they take their clothes off? Yes. Are there any photos of them in the shot together? No. Any with semen in the shot (on her, on the sheets)? No. Prior to this surprise visit to Travis in AZ did he visit his Bishop to begin cleansing himself of sins to get back on track with Church? Yes.

Would being nude in the room with her be sinning? Yes, but not a major sin, I don't think they had sex and I think that angered her even more that day. She always got that from him. Previously to this day, she was always able to get him to want to be with her, have sex with her. That day? I am convinced they did not. I think he was suspicious of her, I think he was not happy that he woke up and she took nude pictures of him, which he had her delete. I feel confident he did not go further with her sexually given the nature of the long email he sent her only 1.5 weeks prior. He may have rightfully figured she can't be trusted, she will get pregnant this time, my life will be over.

This is now 2:00pm upstairs in his room. Photos in the shower begin at approximately 5:20pm so 3.5 hours from the nude photos she took that got deleted.

The shower photos in my opinion are somewhat forced. Their day is over, she is actually dressed between 2pm and 5pm. He could be just trying to get her to leave, indicating roommates are coming back or he has to go somewhere. I can see her anger build as she was trying to find the right moment when she had him vulnerable. She may have contemplated killing him on the bed while he slept after she took nudes, but he woke up. She waited a few more hours. She was dressed and talked him into photographing him in the shower but they look forced to me. I am still not convinced he did not get in the shower and he thought she left but she didn't. She shows up in the bathroom door with her gun and knife, dressed.

There is no way with a gun and knife he would charge her, he'd be a dead man. All of the photos could have been taken at gunpoint. When she made him sit down and cross his legs he may have thought he would just be shot but she plunged the knife into him.

 

[Dmacky]

Me too!! On my birthday last week I told my family that I wasn't going anywhere and if they wanted to eat out they could pick up some take out for all of us and join me at my computer. But, unless there was a sidebar, no talking.
Lucky for the family Jodi came down with a migraine.:what:

Also, I'm on the obsessed with this trial train, too. I actually changed my flight from tomorrow morning to tonight so that I don't miss the trial tomorrow. I'm now taking a red-eye just so I can see everything unfold tomorrow.

LOL ~ Me too
I have driven my girls nuts with this trial. One of my daughters is in college, and Thursday she had an afternoon class. As she was leaving she said "I cannot wait to get out of this house and away from this trial"...So (this is the funny part) she gets to class and she texted me

HER: OMG
Me: What's wrong
Her: My Professor is making us watch that damn trial. I cannot get away from it! I want to shoot myself.
Me: LOL..Do you want me to take the test for you?

 

[katiecoolady]

She was extradited so it would have been Arizona troopers transporting her I believe

Since she's such a blabber mouth I wonder what BS she was pulling on that trip.

 

[~*~PinxJinx~*~]

Yesterday on HLN, they had on as a guest David Otunga, Harvard Law Grad and Pro Wrestler (and Jennifer Hudson's fiance). His unique background gives him great insight into the claims of the effect of a "bodyslam" by a man of Travis' size to a creature such as thing. onto a tile floor.

One of the things demonstrated was that JA would have ended up facing the opposite direction than claimed and that it would have been so painful that the person it happened to would have been incapacitated for several minutes, no spritely "rolling away". I wish Juan could call him as an expert witness!

 

[Novice Seeker]

Nurmi is the lead attorney, Willmott is on the case b/c she is death qualified, doesn't mean she is the lead.

Remember that little case in Florida and who the lead defense attorney was even though he wasn't death qualified.

I do remember that little case and that attorney. The mockery of justice that took place there, IMO, left me ashamed and angry of our judicial system.
I do believe that that little case has influenced how JM is prosecuting this case.

 

[Steely Dan]

I agree with those who think that Jodi didn't have an invite from Travis for her ill-fated visit. The incredible anger in his text messages on May 26th would not have subsided and I don't believe he would have joked with her about going to Utah instead of Arizona and guilted her into visiting him, as she claims. On June 2, while she was still in Yreka she barraged him with phone calls - they are short enough that they are probably her leaving voice mails or just hanging up - and then he does call her back at 3AM and they have two calls lasting about 18 minutes and 41 minutes. A few minutes after that Jodi calls Travis and they speak for about 3 minutes. We know she had a propensity for hanging up on him per one of his texts, so I am surmising that is what was going on here - and perhaps vice versa. Jodi was on the road 90 minutes later.

None of the calls after that last more than a few minutes and I believe the Verizon guy testified that many of these were sent directly to voice mail. There's no way Travis was happy and excited about a visit from Jodi.


Her testimony is so jarring because you can tell there is a bit of truth in everything she says, but it is wrapped in lies. Jodi describing her arrival at Travis' on June 4:

"He had his back to me and he was on his laptop watching music videos or something on YouTube," said Arias. "I thought he looked cute sitting there at the computer and he was watching really dumb videos … so, I just stood at the doorway looking at him for a minute."

HLN Live Blog

I'm sure that is exactly what happened - but I am equally sure that she snuck in and surprised Travis.

Yeah, but I wonder why TA didn't call the cops when she showed up?

Can someone please tell me what date the sex tape was recorded on?

IIRC, there was no sex tape. JA said they couldn't figure out how to use the video portion of the camera.

 

[~*~PinxJinx~*~]

Can someone please tell me what date the sex tape was recorded on?

May 10th

 

[TexMex]

This is Jodi's path of "self defense".

What is Travis's path?

He "chased" her...she slammed closet door...where is she claiming he was when in the "linebacker pose"?

 

[G&AMom]

You are not alone. I had friends check on my welfare today LOLL
Nobody has heard from me or seen me in a few weeks. My ringer is off but the phone is here, I see it light up.. And it better be good LOL
There is 1 apple in the refrigerator. So maybe I will go to the store for food

Just reading these posts this morning.

I'm really glad to hear others are so obsessed because I was beginning to think there was something seriously wrong with me! :floorlaugh: I've been trying to hide the amount of hours I'm spending on this board because I'm afraid my family will commit me. I mean, jeez, it's Sunday morning -- shouldn't I have something better to do? And the answer would be: NO!!!!

The thing that really scares me is that now that I'm retired there's nothing stopping me from doing this again -- like the upcoming Andrea Sneiderman trial. Oy.

 

[StephanieHartPI]

And Jodi was never in his closet, the girl doesn't clean crap. Look at her bedroom photos. She would not know a closet if it hit her in the face.

 

[Jools68]

Can someone please tell me what date the sex tape was recorded on?

The phone sex recording? I believe it was on 5/10/08