jodi arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 11TH DAY #57 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Softail]

I have said countless times I want her to get the death penalty because she deserves the death penalty. Not only for the extremely brutal way she murdered her victim but the fact that she has lied about him in such reprehensible ways trying to get away with the murder. That is doubly offensive to me and unforgivable.
I want her locked down 23 hours a day away from any enablers who will coddle and enable her is she is put in GP.

IMO

I completely agree! I just keep hoping the jury sees it this way. I give up on assuming the jury will do the right thing.

 

[shelley921]

I have served on 5 juries and I found all of the jurors to be quite logical and filled with common sense. Sometimes common sense can trump intellect.

I see nothing to indicate this jury is not the same as most all jurors are and have no doubt they will come to the correct verdict.

I also think she is very close to not only being convicted of first degree but is closer to DR than ever before.

IMO

So glad your jury experiences were much better than mine were.
We must have more idiots out here in Calif than you do - wherever you are.
I hope this Arizona jury is like all the ones you were on and not like the ones I was on.

You are so right that sometimes common sense can trump intellect.

I know several very smart people - but some of them seem to be lacking in the common sense department.

Do all high IQ people lack common sense ? No, but the person with high IQ AND high common sense, or practical intelligence, is definitely a rarer breed of genius.

I guess I should have said that there were people on BOTH juries I was on that lacked intellect OR simple common sense.

 

[outofstatelawyer]

So do I....the one failing that I see in JM's cross is what we learn in Day 1 of trial practice - NEVER let a witness explain on cross. He is asking her to admit things that she simply will not..."isn't that a contradiction?" "wasn't that a lie?"
When he could just hit her with her own statements...say you said that right...and move on! That's the benefit of having a defendant that has spoken about the case ad nauseum...He can weave all of the "gotchas" together using her own admissions and she won't be able to refute them with her smug little semantics (he has the patience of a saint..I would be ready to strangle her).

Uh, he's tried that. The Defendant rambles on with what she wants to say, and the judge will not control her courtroom. It's easy to cross like Day 1 of trial practice if you have a strong judge. Here, not so much. She also makes ridiculous and contradictory rulings on defense objections. JM is dealing with the situation the best that he can.

 

[Quester]

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[Linda7NJ]

I could have got over 100 points playing this word on Words With Friends once (the "j" word she used yesterday), but I just couldn't bring myself to play it. I didn't want the other person to think I was crass. But darn, it would have been 100-pointer!

She could have used another word. It was so disrespectful to the jury to just throw that out there so casually.

I hear ya! The F word leaves my lips much easier!


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[jevipo74]

Very funny!!!! I heard JVM call JA ''the beautiful/stunning photographer" JA is so filled with evil it shows in her face.

I just don't under stand why the TH use " beautiful", "stunning", etc. She was average at best with make-up on, extremely plain without it. Ann Rule does the same thing in her books.

 

[Litigatrix]

No, I do not agree. She is just a sociopath. A lot of them are in prison/DR and also there are many who do not murder anyone.........some are very successful CEOs of large companies due to their lack of empathy/sympathy for another human being. They will trample anyone to get to the top.

Yes she deserves to die. Too bad it will not be painful like what Travis had to go through before his death.

Totally agree, she is as the saying goes "crazy like a fox." She will lie, manipulate, cheat, torment, stalk and kill to get her own way. She absolutely deserves what is coming to her, in this life and the next.

 

[Sigh Sister]

** The Journal *** I have this really bad feeling about the journal

Jodi claims the journal went with her everywhere she went, presumably to Travis’s house as well. She also claims Travis had done his own snooping on occasion.

I have this bad feeling that defense strategy may change their tack to claim that Jodi wrote her journal entries with either the hope or expectation that Travis might read it --and that’s why she never wrote anything bad about abuse or pedophile activities. Their point: her journal cannot corroborate the abuse because she wrote her entries in part for Travis’s benefit.

What really bothered me was the laissez faire way in which she wrote about Travis going on his 2nd date with Mimi. *I* wouldn’t have been so nice in *my* journal.* Instead and I would have had really bad names to use for both parties, yet she writes about how she loves him. She doesn’t say that she loves him and is tormented by him seeing with other women – she simply says she loves him and he had a great date with Mimi. NOT NORMAL.

It’s almost as if she wrote it with the thought that Travis might read it and see how much she loves him and how flexible and understanding she was – ie., marriage material. Frankly, her journal entries really bother me – they are not negative at all, even when the nasty texts Travis sent surely warranted some normal venting on her part. -Nothing- I really do thing the journal was faked to make her look good to Travis. And the defense can use the resulting output to their benefit.

If they claim that then it would actually help the prosecution. It would provide evidence that she was plotting ways to get him back and that she really wasn't content with being friends with benefits.

 

[G&AMom]

I can't believe these talking heads are so critical of JM. In my opinion he's doing a GREAT job.

1) He's shown how she changes from day to day, even hour to hour, in her demeanor and behavior. Everyone is talking about the Jodi from Day 1 of JM's examination, then the Jodi from Day 2, the Jodi from Day 3. How many more Jodi's are there? And I think he needed yesterday to show what a fraud the sweet, crying Jodi from Day 2 was.

2) He has shown that she can take care of herself emotionally when she wants to.

3) She has a clear pattern of stalker behavior. She views any contact by her man with another female as cheating. She will go to extraordinary lengths to keep tabs on her men, including blowing off her job to snoop.

4) Much of what she asserts about herself is the opposite of reality. "I'm a monogamous person." Not. "I'm a procrastinator." Not. "I'm pretty laid back." Not. And so on and on and on. So when she says "I was afraid of Travis." Not. "I was under his thumb." Not. "I was abused." Not!

5) JM has got her caught in one serious trap. She has to take responsibility for her behavior or she looks bad. So she keeps saying she's responsible, then tries to blame someone (everyone) else. In one sentence she will say something is someone else's fault, but it's her responsibility. Makes no sense at all.

6) She plays endless word games. That May 10 tape showed how manipulative she is. How can anybody believe she didn't have the upper hand with Travis?

7) She is cool, calm and collected under fire. After three days on the stand she never looks out of control. She SAYS that JM's "yelling" at her bothers her, but again, the opposite is true. She tries to behave like a victim, but she doesn't really understand what a victim is, so she can't pull it off.

8) I have never been the victim of domestic violence, and even I can see what b*ll***** her claim is. If I'd been subjected to those 3 days of cross examination on the stand I would be crying, sobbing, stuttering, yelling back. She barely blinks.

9) She is ENJOYING playing with JM. One talking head I watched pointed out that her behavior would be great if she was an attorney, but she's not. She is icy cold and in complete control of herself.

10) Probably THE most telling exchange yesterday IMO was her reaction to discussing cheating behavior by her boyfriend(s). She believes she has every right to snoop & spy if she wants to know if he's cheating. Others here have posted about checking their SO's emails or phones for proof of cheating -- but only after they have suspected cheating for some time. Jodi doesn't need suspicions. She doesn't need any clues. She has the right to check on her man any time, anywhere, whenever she wants.

11) JM pointed out a number of times that "she can't have it both ways." This is another case of her having no idea that when you say one thing and do another, sooner or later even the densest person will figure you out.

Sorry for the rant -- I could go on and on! The criticism of JM's questioning has me wondering if, in addition to the whole ratings thing, they are thinking about the Casey Anthony trial and thinking "won't be fooled again."

 

[KMouse]

Today I wish the jail would send her mock no-name bologna, aka skin graft, sammich along with her in a Cinnabon box.

 

[Litigatrix]

Uh, he's tried that. The Defendant rambles on with what she wants to say, and the judge will not control her courtroom. It's easy to cross like Day 1 of trial practice if you have a strong judge. Here, not so much. She also makes ridiculous and contradictory rulings on defense objections. JM is dealing with the situation the best that he can.

Totally agree with you Outofstatelawyer. I think she is giving the defense team WAY too much latitude in almost every situation. I understand that this is a death penalty case, but some of her rulings have been beyond absurd.

 

[K_Z]

I wonder if they are trying to build on a personality disorder. Is this play acting or a personality trait...multiple.

This is not the movie "Primal Fear". Jodi doesn not have "multiple personalities". Kirk Nurmi is not Richard Gere. Jodi is neither Aaron, nor Roy.

Jodi is a garden variety, evil psychopath who is currently twisting in the wind, desperately trying to manipulate her way out of the mess she created. IMO.

 

[Feebot]

Love it!

 

[Deebest49]

i'm sorry, but if jodi is very intelligent, then she's a virgin too. Though i'm sure she will tell you she is both if she thinks that is what you want to hear.

She's not intelligent. She's stubborn as a stick, and she's cunning. That isn't intelligence. Sociopaths can be quite smart, and often they are brilliantly good at figuring out what people want to hear, then telling them that. I don't particularly see examples that she has a lot of talent in that area, even.

Sociopaths/psychopaths, in general, have huge blind spots. They don't have a long term plan, they do what they feel the urge to do in the moment. Some folks would find her fun and exciting to be around. She probably can be charming as all get out if she thinks she can schmooze her way into something good. She's got not one shred of personal integrity, so she'll do/say anything she thinks will help her. That still isn't intelligence.

Someone said that if you offer a psychopath the choice of $0.25 today or $5.00 tomorrow, they will take the quarter today. Every. Single. Time. Look at her. She murders a man simply because she is enraged that he is moving on, leaving her behind. She's not angry because she is so attached to him. She's angry because she has to win. And if he dumps her, she isn't the winner. So in a fit of spite, she kills a person. Not well planned. She can't think that far ahead. She can't recognize how everything she says lacks that resonance of truth. Everything points back to her. Within days she is locked up. And the best she can come up with is a story about bloodthirsty arizona ninjas. A creative 5th grader can come up with a more plausible explanation.

Intelligence is the ability to adapt to changing situations. To learn from previous experience what does and doesn't work. On trial for her very life, she is unable to adapt to the way in which she has been cross examined. Don't get me wrong, mr. Martinez is a hell of a prosecutor, and i certainly wouldn't want to go up against him in any situation. But she has had three years to do nothing but prepare for this. And she's killing herself because she can't stand to "lose" an argument. She has to try to look like the smartest person in the room, even though it's completely against her best interests in the long run. Sorry, no intelligence shining through there.

Moo, of course.

bingo......... Slam dunk........right on the money......... Great post!!!!!

 

[Jax49]

That the Ninja's did it...

How would the Ninja story have caused the family more pain?

 

[Dmacky]

Totally agree, she is as the saying goes "crazy like a fox." She will lie, manipulate, cheat, torment, stalk and kill to get her own way. She absolutely deserves what is coming to her, in this life and the next.

:devil::devil::devil::devil::devil:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I don't disagree with you there and it's easier for everyone to Monday morning QB him than to be in the trenches as he is...but he runs the risk of losing the jury in the weeds because this case has gone on for so long. One lie or fifty lies, she's still a liar and he needs to not give her a chance to quibble on that. I have a lot of faith that he is building up to a crescendo, but I am pretty sure that 99.9% of the jury loathes her and just needs it all wrapped up in a neat package for them to send her to the gallows. On the other hand, he is also a sly fox who is allowing the jury to see her as she truly is, which is brilliant. Specifically, I noticed him asking for a lot of seemingly trivial details yesterday about past events, so that the jury realizes how good her memory truly is.

I mean no disrepect but if I have to hear or read one more time about 'losing the jury in the weeds' I think I will scream.:banghead:

This is a Prosecutor who has been doing this for over 3 decades with an amazing win record. This is a man who has already put a female murderer on Az. DR who also was on the witness stand for days on end. That defendant also claimed self defense..........abused, yada yada yada. The jury believed her so much they gave her the death penalty. So do I think he knows what he is doing? ABSOLUTELY!

When Arias takes him into the 'weeds' he is there with a machete to cut through the weeds to get to the truth. If you have read the article I linked yesterday about how to cross examine a sociopath then you would know he is doing this with great precision and perfectly! This man needs no help or advice from anyone in doing what he has done successfully for over 30 years.

All of the people who have actually been in the courtroom viewing all this have said the jury is riveted when JM is asking questions. They arent even looking at Arias.

IMO

 

[zoey]

Good morning, friends! (I wanted to sound like Nancy Grace :floorlaugh: )

Don't forget, court is supposed to start a whole 15 minutes earlier than normal--so 10:15 mountain, 11:15 central, 12:15 eastern, 9:15 pacific.

Tell my computer that. Think its poor brains are scrambled. Its sick. I want it better. SOON. lease:lease:lease::jail::truce:

 

[K_Z]

I thought it odd. Because 4:30 has always been the time. He makes sure to let the judge know when to go to lunch, when to have a break, when to shut down for the day. He pretty much controls the courtroom.

Don't forget that there may be members of the jury who have diabetes or other illnesses, and need to stick to a rigid schedule. It could be that Nurmi is making sure the jury (not him or his client) is well cared for and respected, so that the jury will not develop resentment toward his client.

 

[spyhouston]

After all this time in jail, seems like JA's body would be very adjusted to the 2 meals a day program. Unless, she is taken to the court house before breakfast is served and is only getting the evening meal. Otherwise, it just doesn't make sense. 2 meals a day has been her standard for 4+ years!