jodi arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 11TH DAY #57 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Zuri]

I thought Nurmi said she did not have lunch for the last 2 days. Has it been since the trial started?

 

[Kensie]

** The Journal *** I have this really bad feeling about the journal

Jodi claims the journal went with her everywhere she went, presumably to Travis’s house as well. She also claims Travis had done his own snooping on occasion.

I have this bad feeling that defense strategy may change their tack to claim that Jodi wrote her journal entries with either the hope or expectation that Travis might read it --and that’s why she never wrote anything bad about abuse or pedophile activities. Their point: her journal cannot corroborate the abuse because she wrote her entries in part for Travis’s benefit.

What really bothered me was the laissez faire way in which she wrote about Travis going on his 2nd date with Mimi. *I* wouldn’t have been so nice in *my* journal.* Instead and I would have had really bad names to use for both parties, yet she writes about how she loves him. She doesn’t say that she loves him and is tormented by him seeing other women – she simply says she loves him and he had a great date with Mimi. NOT NORMAL.

It’s almost as if she wrote it with the thought that Travis might read it and see how much she loves him and how flexible and understanding she was – ie., marriage material. Frankly, her journal entries really bother me – they are not negative at all, even when the nasty texts Travis sent surely warranted some normal venting on her part. -Nothing- I really do thing the journal was faked to make her look good to Travis. And the defense can use the resulting output to their benefit.

Good point.

 

[Softail]

I thought Nurmi said she did not have lunch for the last 2 days. Has it been since the trial started?

:yes: Apparently all this time, no lunch.

 

[TigerBalm]

I thought Nurmi said she did not have lunch for the last 2 days. Has it been since the trial started?

The jail hasn't provided her a "lunch" for the past 4 1/2 years.
The defense is desperate and trying anything to stall Juan getting to the actual murder testimony. IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I have wavered through the years over the Death Penalty, but I must say in this case, this was so horrible, such a rage jealous brutal over-killing that I am solid on my opinion of her being a very dangerous person with no feelings. No feelings for anyone but herself. I feel certain put her in her cell with many medications that would easily give her a painless death and she won't take them. She does not want to go anywhere.

I have said countless times I want her to get the death penalty because she deserves the death penalty. Not only for the extremely brutal way she murdered her victim but the fact that she has lied about him in such reprehensible ways trying to get away with the murder. That is doubly offensive to me and unforgivable.

I want her locked down 23 hours a day away from any enablers who will coddle and enable her is she is put in GP.

IMO

 

[Truth Detector]

If today is the day Juan gets to the murder, and the evidence photos of the murder, I think we will all hear a lot of different variations of"I don't remember" from Jodi. I also expect her to cry, and this would be a time when she might dissolve into shaking sobs and need a recess to compose herself (delay and buy time).

It will be a tough day for the family of Travis, but JM needs to give Jodi many opportunities to say she "doesn't remember" so this is burned into the brain of every juror, IMO.

And then drive home the "fugue state" driving in the desert, and the Costco bottled water sponge bath to clean up the blood, followed by grinding the new man in the LoveSac. AND the calls and VM to Travis' cell phone AFTER she knew he was dead at her hands.

The jury hopefully will be as sickened as we all are.

Smile and say cheese, Jodi. It's time for your close up. There is nothing to be sad about, right?

To hear her tell it, Travis would have wanted it that way.

WWTD? (What Would Travis Do?)

"Smile and say 'Cheese'." ~ Jodi Arias, 2008 to CBS 48 Hours

 

[Jax49]

I've been rereading Jodi's 2011 plea offer and it is sickening. I don't know how to copy it but to paraphrase JA offers to plead to 2nd degree, with a sentence of 10 to 20 years. AND, she does this out of sympathy for the Alexander family.

'Ms. Arias takes this position knowing that she could in fact receive a more favorable verdict at trial while at the same time cognizant of the pain...............'

And, later it states:

'...........because she has grave regrets for the falsehoods she told the media after Mr. Alexander's death........'

http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/jodiariasngfile.pdf

Does anyone know what 'falsehoods' they are referring to? TIA

 

[rob]

I dont think he has done one thing wrong. He lets her explain because each and everytime she does she reveals another lie.

Priceless

I agree. If Juan didn't want her to add to her answers, he would have already asked the judge to instruct her to only answer yes or no. When he doesn't want the extra, he tells her, yes or no. But a lot of what she spews out, hangs her.
the devil is in the details

 

[jevipo74]

** The Journal *** I have this really bad feeling about the journal

Jodi claims the journal went with her everywhere she went, presumably to Travis’s house as well.* She also claims Travis had done his own snooping on occasion.

I have this bad feeling that defense strategy may change their tack to claim that Jodi wrote her journal entries with either the hope or expectation that Travis might read it --and that’s why she never wrote anything bad about abuse or pedophile activities.* Their point:* her journal cannot corroborate the abuse because she wrote her entries in part for Travis’s benefit.

What really bothered me was the laissez faire way in which she wrote about Travis going on his 2nd date with Mimi.* *I* wouldn’t have been so nice in *my* journal.* Instead and I would have had really bad names to use for both parties, yet she writes about how she loves him.* She doesn’t say that she loves him and is tormented by him seeing other women – she simply says she loves him and he had a great date with Mimi.* NOT NORMAL.

It’s almost as if she wrote it with the thought that Travis might read it and see how much she loves him and how flexible and understanding she was – ie., marriage material. *Frankly, her journal entries really bother me – they are not negative at all, even when the nasty texts Travis sent surely warranted some normal venting on her part. -Nothing- I really do thing the journal was faked to make her look good to Travis. And the defense can use the resulting output to their benefit.

I find her journal to be quite damning. Who keeps track of how many dates their ex goes on with another woman? Travis broke her finger and yet the writing in her journal is pristine. I know she said she's able to use both hands, but there would be a deviation in the writing from the left to right hand and there isn't. To me, the journal is proof of her obsession. All she talked about was Travis, Travis, Travis...how much she loved him, admired him, wanted to be with him and enjoyed being with him. I don't think she faked it. The only reason I think she didn't write anything negative is because she refused to accept that he was moving past her. She ignored the negative and clung desperately to the positive things he said.

 

[MommyIN]

That was one of the words that had never come out of my mouth


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I agree. I still can't get over the fact that she blurted that out. My god! What 30 year old woman does that?! This was her "snapping" imo. She did it then, and she also did it when she said RB was "full of crap". She lost her composure for a second. She'll do it again too, if JM pushes the right buttons and keeps her up there long enough.

 

[K_Z]

That is it. Pull the plug. Such a waste. The only thing I would like to discover would be is she a product of her up bringing or just a bad apple, just a freak on nature? Where was this behavior learned?

Such a waste?? Jodi's life? I hope I misinterpreted this, and you mean "such a waste" about Travis' life. Jodi's life, imo, is a waste. She never has, and never will, admit what she did and feel remorse for the life she took. Her life is a continuing danger to anyone she comes into contact with whom she decides she dislikes. She would, imo, more easily kill "the next time", since she has nothing left to lose.

The "nature versus nurture" debate is not appropriate for the guilt phase of trial. She is clearly (VERY clearly) NOT legally mentally ill and not responsible for her actions. She is not schizophrenic, or any other Axis I major disorder. She has a personality disorder-- that does not have any protected legal status for accountability. Virtually every inmate in our prison system has a personality disorder, and nearly 100% of the inmates are chronic liars.

From a scientific viewpoint, from what I have read, the dominant opinion of mental health professionals is that psychopathy/ antisocial personality disorder is "nature" (born that way), but that environment and upbringing can influence the BEHAVIOR of the individual (but not the thinking or impulses). They can sometimes be trained to mimic and ACT in socially acceptable ways, but they never make the deep connections to other people that non-psychopaths can make. There is no "pill" to treat personality disorders-- as there is for things like schizophrenia, to restore order to their thinking.

She has, and will, adjust to incarceration just fine. Psychopaths are survivors-- like reptiles. She will make prison pals and enemies, and will continue to manipulate anyone she can. She will have episodes where she feels genuinely sorry for herself, but never sorry for what she did, and the life she savagely took. Prison is the right place for her, and others like her, imo. For whatever number of days they have left on this earth-- either by execution or natural death. Makes no difference to me, as long as they never see a single day of freedom outside of a prison again. That is justice, as well as protection for society. IMO.

 

[LynnM]

And just to finish my thoughts which didn't seem to fit my previous post...

Jodi's reality, imo, is indeed that she felt compelled to murder Travis. But not in self-defense. I believe she felt forced to kill him because not only had he rejected her - he'd also likely seen her 'true' psychopathic self. Almost nothing else scares a psychopath, but if their mask slips and people see how very inhuman they are they panic.

But Jodi's reality won't get her out of prison. So she has to take her reality - the entitled, justified murder of Travis in her mind - and squeeze, bend and shape it to make it fit THE reality. That's where all the psychopathic manipulations come into play...forging letters, witness tampering, gaslighting, obfuscation, deception, manipulation, etc. I'm quite certain we've only hit the tip of the iceberg in that regard too. We may never know all of Jodi's machinations.

I agree. I was thinking about the tape where she came out with the ninja story. She was genuinely crying when she said that she ran away like a little b... and I was trying to figure out why and then I realized that she doesn't like to be seen in a bad light. She would have preferred to be the hero in the story, not the coward who ran away and didn't call anyone for help.

Her preferred public reality is that she was wonderful and Travis was wonderful and they had the love story of all time and someone came along and killed him. She must be furious that no one believed that and she's had to come out with alternate stories to try to avoid prison, none of which make her look good. The mask is gone for good.

 

[Camdenres]

I am so sorry to ask this question but I was only able to listen to the trial during the morning yesterday and then actually had to work without ear buds in.....so they ended the trial early and she is claiming they have not fed her lunch the whole time? Is that what she is claiming? Again, sorry for the annoying question but I am at work and do not have a lot of time to go back and read everything that transpired....Thanks!

 

[Litigatrix]

I dont think he has done one thing wrong. He lets her explain because each and everytime she does she reveals another lie.

Priceless

I don't disagree with you there and it's easier for everyone to Monday morning QB him than to be in the trenches as he is...but he runs the risk of losing the jury in the weeds because this case has gone on for so long. One lie or fifty lies, she's still a liar and he needs to not give her a chance to quibble on that. I have a lot of faith that he is building up to a crescendo, but I am pretty sure that 99.9% of the jury loathes her and just needs it all wrapped up in a neat package for them to send her to the gallows. On the other hand, he is also a sly fox who is allowing the jury to see her as she truly is, which is brilliant. Specifically, I noticed him asking for a lot of seemingly trivial details yesterday about past events, so that the jury realizes how good her memory truly is.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Can we all agree that this girl doesn't have all her marbles? Does she deserve to die?

No, I do not agree. She is just a sociopath. A lot of them are in prison/DR and also there are many who do not murder anyone.........some are very successful CEOs of large companies due to their lack of empathy/sympathy for another human being. They will trample anyone to get to the top.

Yes she deserves to die. Too bad it will not be painful like what Travis had to go through before his death.

 

[grammieto5]

Jodi cannot admit to jealousy. That would be admitting that every man isn't HOT for her. She is beautiful and desired, don't ya know?
:floorlaugh:

Very funny!!!! I heard JVM call JA ''the beautiful/stunning photographer" JA is so filled with evil it shows in her face.

 

[Sustained]

Don't know why but these lyrics from Lyin' Eyes resonate with me ...

On the other side of town a boy is waiting
With firey eyes and dreams no one could steal
She drives on through the night anticipating
Cause he makes her feel the way she used to feel

She rushes to his arms, they fall together
She whispers it's only for a while
She swears that soon she'll be coming back forever
She pulls away and leaves him with a smile

 

[TexMex]

Bacon enchiladas
Coffee

Beats bread and peanut butter and a juice box!

 

[Truth Detector]

Quoting each of them on the other:

Travis was to Jodi, "a rock, a light and an inspiration."

Jodi was to Travis, "kryptonite... the worst thing that ever happened to [him]" and he told her so.

 

[StephanieHartPI]

I've been rereading Jodi's 2011 plea offer and it is sickening. I don't know how to copy it but to paraphrase JA offers to plead to 2nd degree, with a sentence of 10 to 20 years. AND, she does this out of sympathy for the Alexander family.

'Ms. Arias takes this position knowing that she could in fact receive a more favorable verdict at trial while at the same time cognizant of the pain...............'

And, later it states:

'...........because she has grave regrets for the falsehoods she told the media after Mr. Alexander's death........'

http://grahamwinch.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/jodiariasngfile.pdf

Does anyone know what 'falsehoods' they are referring to? TIA

That the Ninja's did it...