Jodi Arias trial discussion #21 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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No one will ever convince me that Nurmi thought this was a good idea. This came from Jodi demanding to be put on the stand.

OMG! She is such a poor liar my head is reeling.

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Poor Nurmi cannot even get his own client to get to the point to save her own life.
 
Listening to defendant (daughter) talk about how her dad treated her mom

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How many more boyfriends we going to go through?

I'm going to go ahead and keep that colonoscopy appointment for this afternoon. Can't be any more unpleasant.

She's just letting everyone know how many B/F's she didn't kill.
 
Is JA's mother laughing? WTH

Is this the 'hail mary' to convince the jury of What exactly?
 
Stayed w/a family in Costa Rico . . . their name was Arias . . .stayed with a family that had a son about her age . . . they had a blossoming romance.. . .It was her first taste of feeling warm about somebody . . . he flew back to Costa Rica. . . . letters - postman got to know him name and face . . . he would receive letters from him . . . Spanish language is very romantic . . . he was about a year older than me . . . . Victor Arias

Mr. Juarez and she had been dating . . . . he had given her a ring. Victor had been my boyfriend but Bobby became my boyfriend . . . a little more frequent . . . I couldn't see myself moving to Costa Rica and having children with him . . .Victor was very jealous I couldn't talk to any guys from school . . .I drove through a drive thru . . .we just went to get ice cream . . . The guy I knew from 2 years in high school and gave us ice cream and victor didn't like that
Victor always made me walk on the inside of the sidewalk in Costa Rica . . . broke up iwth him Oct 1997 on the phone . . .

After breaking up with Victor . . . Bobby and I were friends . . .it was around New Years . . .I had a car then . drove out to little white chapel . . . tall steeple snow everywhere - hung out there . . . I had begun to develop feelings for him right after Christmas so I told him and we began to rekindle the relationship - moved in with him April four monbths after New Years . . . .

Did your parents know about your relationship with Mr. Juarez
They knew but don't know how they knew. It was a small town - I am sure people saw me hanging out with him and probably told my parents. . . . my Mom didn't have a very good opinion of him . . .

Working for father @ his resteraunt . . . Jr year in High School . . . my Dad's resteraunt closed year prior when I was a sophomore - I can't remember - he closed sometime . . . I worked briefly @ a little resteraunt called Grandma's House . . . .

Were you supplying $ to Mr. Juarez ?
Yes-= he lived with two people he called Mom and Dad I think it was his grandparents . . . he wsa adopted . . . they were supplying shelter, food, and clothing - that type of thi ng. At this point I was not supplying him with money. They were very much older I don't know if they were really related or not - I actually saw what everyone in town thought should be his Mother .but he didn't want anything to do with her . . . she was much mroe the age to be his mother, these people were about 70's or so . .

He wanted to move to San Francisisco chase vampires and be with you and dress goth style . . .was that 15 year old boy . .
He was 20 now still had a eccentricity and had a flair . . he would dress up like white face all black leather . I thought it was cute on inside and the outside . . .

I was attracted to him . . . but he was a little more down to earth at this point . . .

Mentioned you had moved things to his house . . . . last straw when you moved out? . . . when my parents told me I was going to be grounded until I was 18 . . . . plates, silverware, stuff from my Dad's resteraunt . . . . my Dad used to unhook my car . . .. I learned how to rehook it but then my dad would take the piece so my car wouldn't take it . . . first thing I did was check on my car . . . . it started . . . . I woke up @ 7:30 . . . . . my Mom was cooking breakfast . . . I grabbed my cat - put the cat in the car went to Bobby's house moved out and out of school that day.

Structurally the house was good , but it was very bad shape . . . a lot of tar running down the walls . . . . packed with a bunch of things not quite to the ceiling . . . Bobby did the best to make his bedroom his own little space . . . he wasn't allowed to touch their things. . . . the kitchen was very dirty, the bathroom was very dirty - I tried to mop the bathroom floor but the shower started falling apart - I went to my parents house a few days later to get cleaning supplies . . . his parents would sit on the couch and smoke all day . . . .

We did eventually . . .. right after I moved in with him . . .
moved into this filty home dropped out of school . . . you were working . . .right?
Can you repeat that?
Got a job @ Grandma's House . . .supporting self . . . . not quite yet was I supplying money to him . . . he didn't have ID, no social security card but had a number, no birth certificate . . . .. that was reason he couldn't work . . . at least that is what I understood @ the time

Bobby and I moved to Chico - didn't work out there about a week and half . . . moved back got a job @ Denny's . . . in 1998 working fulltime . . .

only job you had or another? . . . I forgot I did have another job . . . .as a busser . . .

working @ Denny's is that how you supported yourself and Mr. Juarez? . . . . Didn't have rent or mortgage -= by that time his parents moved out to a rest home . . . found out things about the house didn't know before because it was so cluttered . .

who paid phone or power?
I think his parents were - at one point power was shut off in the winter . .. . . they had a furnace and used candles . . . . didn't know how they got the power back on . . .Bobby had a friend who helped . . .

I got moved to the graveyard shift @ Dennys' . . .

I though Bobby treated me well until I discovered he wasn't being faithful . . . he was on a party line and talked to this girl frequently . . . . I figured there was nothinbg going on because he did it right in front of me

I had to go to work . . . .I dropped him off @ his friends. . . . he had a hotmail accoung in 1998 - I clicked the back button - found a whole bunch of love letters that were contemporaneous at the time (?)

took them to his brothers - took him into the bathroom to talk and showed him and he was kind of shocked.

It didn't make me feel good - he was very loving and poetic with this person . . . . .my heart was pounding . . .. I felt deceived . . . . I forgot that I went back to Montegue and got my things. . . that's when I went to confront him with letters.


Very loving and poetic way . . . he wasn't that way to you?
He was initially . . .we got comfortable around each other . . . . I don't know - he wsa going out of his way to court her and I was already in the bag so to speak . . .

Was Bobby every physically abusive toward you . . . there was one time we had a fight, I broke up with him after that incident - long story but he convinced me to stay he wouldn't have contact with that women . . . .

There was another girl who I could see each others houses . . . .

I didnt start it . . . I don't know how . . . but sometime in early Fall of 1999 - physical with JA @ acquaintance home . . . he was into martial arts so he had a strangle hold on me . . .made me upset . . . . . he had never done that before . . . ummm I think I said my family would be very upset . . . . he ummm said how he would kill my family . . . describe how he would get that done . . . .

umm i managed to get the phone and call 911- he kept telling me to shut up because they were going to call back . . . . they did call back and he told them I was trying to program 911. .


Listen to this next part . . . .

Toward the end of the relationship . . . .wasn't toward the end. . . I dont know . . . toward the end . . . it never really happened. .


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Did you engage in sexual relationship after this incident - I don't remember . . . I still liked him . . .

You mentioned one time when Bobby moved in with an individual . . . . to end the relationship iwth bobby you ended up moving into your Grandmother's house in Yreka . . . my Gpa and their dog also lived there . . . (Ringo?)

I felt close to my Grandparents - not lovey dovey but my Grandmother is very . . . . I could just tell her anything . . . .why didn't you move back to your parents? I wanted to get along with them and keep it that way.

I had worked @ Denny's for a year . . . fulltime 32 hrs per week you get vacation benefits - I used that vacation to fly back to Costa Rica . . . with victor? no he moved out stayed with Victor's family - lifetime and reflecting . . . I saw Victor 3 days before I flew back . . . .

went from relationship with Bobby . . we kept trying to go back - other girls he tried to hook up with and I kept hearing stories . . . needed to remove my self from situation so that break with him . . . .

Bobby was like my first true love . . .

Vacation time @ Dennys' come back to Yreka . . . bACK to work . . . first day back went into the back @ resteraunt he was sitting @ the counter. .. he has really beautiful eyes anbd kept looking @ me with his puppy dog eyes . . . . we went outside and talked and hugged and (something about a marshmallow?)

Romantic relationshp -

why at this point in time you were open to the idea to have relationship with a man who choked you and . . . . . I felt those were isolated incidcents . . . I didn't want to leave. . . it felt natural - what I was accoustomed to . . . . .

When did you decide it wasn't for the best?
I thought I moved on . . . I thought I was ok when I came back to Yreka and he moved to Medford Ore . . . about 50 miles away from Yreka . . . . .he

I always helped him out . . . . he finally got a job . . there wsa a woman who grew up in school who was a notary public . . . .who knew him growing up . . so she got him id . . .


Evidence he is being unfaithful . . . come back from Costa Rica you are going to move on . . . are we to understand you were financially helping her?

I was kind of . . . he kind of cut off communication with her - he said "you will never see me talking to her" . . . it was kind of implied . . . .

he was really into Southpark - I bought him Southpark tee shirts - I bought him clothing jeans . . . he was in Medford, OR - with an i ndividual named Matt. . .

in I-5 just like Yreka - about 50 miles an hour drive . . . . bigger town not nearly as big as this area but much bigger than Yreka. . . make trips up to Medford - they had a studio -Bobby had a futon - Matt had his own bed . . . .

I went up several times - that period of relationship was short lived . . . not very long . . . Matt . . . .McCartney ? didn't know him before moving to Medford - JA and Matt became friends- Matt noticed how bad he was treating me - it felt kind of good to have somebody to talk to .. . . I came out to Medford when Matt had a girl visiting - he was very chivalrous toward her . . he was very nice to her - that was surprising for JA to see . . ..

Lived with your parents for 17 years?
Yes . . .
Did you not see your father treat your Mother in this way?
When I was young, my Father would kiss my mom, embrace, see another woman on tv I would say she is beautiful and he would say not as pretty as your Mom . . . . he would smack her on the arm . . . smack each other harder . . .

Wsa you Dad degrading toward your Mother?
Don't remember incidents . . . . very critical, very gossipy , talks behind people behind their back . . .they have complaints about each other . . .
 
:furious:She's in for a rude awakening. Going from Nurmi's softballs to Juan and his Nolan Ryan 100MPH fastballs up around her chin.
 
This is the most self-indulgent cr a p I've heard in the longest time.

I need a propofol drip or a lobotomy if I'm going to make it through.
 
Her parents are still married...so where's the dad?
 
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