Jodi Arias Trial discussion, #3

[Justme84]

She moved to Mesa after they broke up to be near him. She slashed his tires twice. She hacked into his emails, bank account and myspace accounts. She tried friending girls he was dating on myspace. She drove over 1,000 miles to see him, not the other way around. All of that is stalking in my book.

Why doesn't anyone understand what I am saying? Men tell their friends girls are stalkers when they are embarrassed of them .it's not always true. If no one saw it we don't know it wasn't just a guy trying to look like he wasn't egging her on. Has anything been shown where someone saw her crawl through the dog door or where they saw her following him? His word means nothing
if he's trying to convince people who dislike Jodi that
he doesn't have any interest in her.

 

[popsicle]

Coming right after the jurors questions, I bet that one of them said they needed to go to the bathroom. Just a guess.

I know the prosecutor is irritated but he needs to not show it so much....IMO....some juries seem to really key in on stuff like that and this one, with their last questions, IMO...appear maybe just a little, of course in my very OWN opinion seem a little superficial....IMO, of course! !

Personally, I think he is showing how ridicules the defense attorney is/was with his limited view of the texts and thus expecting the poor witness to be able to answer honestly/knowingly.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

I think he testified that he tried calling her several times and it went staright to VM..Her phone was off!!!

Supposedly her phone was off for a while during which she traveled to TA's home, stayed there and killed TA. I would think the text messages between Ryan and Jodi have to start up after that point.

 

[gngr~snap]

Red by me

I like these questions by the jurors, it shows to me that they don't buy this nonsense trying to being sold.

Or he won't admit it because of his wife, the Church and his job.
He could (possibly lose them all if he admitted it)

Too bad JA didn't take pictures!~ if they had secks! lol

 

[GobBluth]

Coming right after the jurors questions, I bet that one of them said they needed to go to the bathroom. Just a guess.

Maybe that was one of the questions in the basket. lol.

The basket is my new favorite thing. It seems so happy and unofficial for a court room. Does it have a big handle, or a bow on it? Did someone pick it up from Walmart on their lunch break? Who is the keeper of the basket? Are all court baskets in Arizona the same? Do they have govt issue baskets that are regulation? Or did someone get to choose a particular basket? Who got to choose the basket? How often are said baskets replaced?

Clearly, I don't do well during breaks.:floorlaugh:

 

[KMouse]

Personally, I think he is showing how ridicules the defense attorney is/was with his limited view of the texts and thus expecting the poor witness to be able to answer honestly/knowingly.

I agree that it was a good job on the prosecution side to point out that there were numerous texts and they were only shown a select few and not the enitre conversation.

If I were a juror I would be wondering why I wasn't shown the entire convo.

 

[Boodles]

Originally Posted by Justme84
just a question and I know people will go crazy on me but honestly, is it not hypocrisy that people consider it character assassination when they attempt to expose areas of Travis but if anything is said about Jodi it must be true?

The victim is dead so I guess he can't possibly have led but she killed him so anything negative said about her is fact?

I agree with you. This is her one shot (no pun intended). I don't know what went on in their relationship or during the murder yet, but if there was DV and she was fearful or abused or whatever, this is the only shot she has to defend herself.

If you try to step back from the emotion and look objectively, she has the legal right to a defense. And if there is a 1 in a million chance that she does have a valid defense, then this is the only chance she has to present it.

I don't know if the defense has anything substantive or not. We'll find out eventually. I would hope they have something of significance to present during their case or we wouldn't be watching a trial. I can't imagine a successful self defense argument based on what, 4 days of the prosecution's case so far, but we just don't know yet.

And let's just pretend or imagine that she does have a valid defense, just for argument's sake. There is a very tight group of people with significant religious beliefs who want to protect themselves and probably their friend's image as well. People who have not been privy to the truth from TA about his "real" lifestyle. A group of people banded together to all say "he's the greatest" is pretty formidable. I don't think many, if anyone, knows the other side of him which is not an upstanding moral guy within the framework of the Mormon beliefs.

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Why weren't both sides of the IMing provided? Instead like the PA pointed out it seems like the defense had pick and choose pieces of the IMing puzzle.

 

[bobloblaw]

I really like this format of allowing jurors to ask questions.

 

[TigerBalm]

The one next to her, with short hair.

Thanks though, didn't know that was her mom.

Sorry about that, I realized you asked about the person next to her after I posted. Not sure who that person is.

 

[Justme84]

I don’t agree or disagree with the line of questioning but it appears to me that the defense is trying to show a contradiction in his character. Since this is a death penalty case I would think more than the usual amount of latitude would be allowed. He presented himself one way to his fellow mormons and another way to “”. We keep hearing what a devout mormon he was, when in fact we now know he had a sexual relationship with JA and compromised himself in the eyes of his church. In other words, defense is trying to show he lied about that indiscretion (a sin of omission?) and was capable of more lies and more deviant behavior and more omissions?

Exactly. That is what the jury will ask if they do not
prove that she was actually a stalker versus a girl Travis talked trash about.
That is LWOP.

 

[LambChop]

Red by me

I like these questions by the jurors, it shows to me that they don't buy this nonsense trying to being sold.

I think they were all good questions. First one, I would think they wanted to make sure it wasn't Jodi that he got his information from. The fact that he can't "remember" makes his testimony less credible.

So is he a "player", too? Who has a single woman drive over 1,000 miles just to spend 15 hours with him so they could cuddle, no sexual contact? Oh, pleazzzzzzzzzzzz. jmo

 

[GobBluth]

Another hot forensics person. I wanna work in that office, lol.

 

[popsicle]

By the look of JA's face I think she thinks she is having a good day with her defense today (?)

 

[HauntsForHope]

Great questions from the jury. Really nailed this witness. The defense presenting bits and pieces of a conversation without context is infuriating, especially when the witness says the time stamp must be wrong.

 

[bobloblaw]

So is he a "player", too? Who has a single woman drive over 1,000 miles just to spend 15 hours with him so they could cuddle, no sexual contact? Oh, pleazzzzzzzzzzzz. jmo

Totally agree, he's lying about not having sex IMO.

 

[HauntsForHope]

Maybe that was one of the questions in the basket. lol.

The basket is my new favorite thing. It seems so happy and unofficial for a court room. Does it have a big handle, or a bow on it? Did someone pick it up from Walmart on their lunch break? Who is the keeper of the basket? Are all court baskets in Arizona the same? Do they have govt issue baskets that are regulation? Or did someone get to choose a particular basket? Who got to choose the basket? How often are said baskets replaced?

Clearly, I don't do well during breaks.:floorlaugh:

Vive Le Basket!:rocker:

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Great questions from the jury. Really nailed this witness. The defense presenting bits and pieces of a conversation without context is infuriating, especially when the witness says the time stamp must be wrong.

IMO it sure makes the defense team look inept when their witness can't recall what came before or after the text...

 

[lonetraveler]

Or he won't admit it because of his wife, the Church and his job.
He could (possibly lose them all if he admitted it)

Too bad JA didn't take pictures!~ if they had secks! lol

She couldn't take pictures, she left the camera in the washing machine.:what:

 

[missy1974]

Great questions from the jury. Really nailed this witness. The defense presenting bits and pieces of a conversation without context is infuriating, especially when the witness says the time stamp must be wrong.

I was thinking when the prosecution was showing messages that I wished we had seen it all (some were a few pages, but they only read a few messages) and didn't understand why there were time stamps on them.
Does anyone know if the exhibits are available anywhere online?

EDIT: OOPS, meant that there were NO time stamps on them.