Judge Orders Bush Administration to Resume Paying for Katrina Housing

  • #301
Marthatex said:
Royalty money usually goes to the owners of the property the oil company or gas company is leasing from; then to the owners of the companies.

I don't know the portion of oil money the state gets, or which drilling is done on State owned land.

Of course there is a tax paid on oil and gas drilling, I'm sure; to Louisiana.

If Louisiana is anything like California, oil royalties were fixed long ago, prior to the considerable inflation of the 70s and 80s, and are built into the deeds of properties. They may not be worth much.

Taxes could be a different matter, as they can be changed over time and may be based on a percentage of income rather than a flat fee.
 
  • #302
Nova said:
If Louisiana is anything like California, oil royalties were fixed long ago, prior to the considerable inflation of the 70s and 80s, and are built into the deeds of properties. They may not be worth much.

Taxes could be a different matter, as they can be changed over time and may be based on a percentage of income rather than a flat fee.

That's largely correct.
 
  • #303
Marthatex said:
That's largely correct.

I believe the oil royalties on my first California house were $10/year. The company had stopped paying. No, I didn't sue.
 
  • #304
Nova said:
I believe the oil royalties on my first California house were $10/year. The company had stopped paying. No, I didn't sue.

Do they have oil in California? Underground, that is?
 
  • #305
I just wish someone "high up" in that state would do something.. The state itself has good things to offer (JMO, dont live/never have) but I think every state has something no other state has to promote to their advantage.. I love seeing other states, nothing like a good road trip, seeing the country.. Maybe they could utilize more on their gambling (whatever they do) I know people that go across from Texas to Louisanna's gambling facilities.. Just trying to throw things out, maybe that is not a good option.. I saw a show this week-end (don't remember the city, think in was in NY, short term memory :) ) anyway, they were taking individuals on probabtion, etc working on a normal day schedule picking up trash sweeping the sidewalks, not in orange suits (which I think makes them feel humilitated) or whatever to make them stand out but in blue outfits, the show stated the rate of the individuals turning their lives around was really good, they were paid, gave them hope/pride/ sense of accomplishment in themselves so they could go further once they completed whatever it was they were in trouble for.. I thought it was a good idea, helps the city, makes the person responsible as well as the hope factor..
 
  • #306
Audit: FEMA continues to squander millions in Katrina aid


WASHINGTON (AP) — One year after Katrina, the government is still squandering tens of millions of dollars in wasted disaster aid, including $17 million in bogus rental payments to people who had already received free trailers and apartments, federal investigators said Wednesday.

At the same time, the Federal Emergency Management Agency has recovered less than 1% of the $1 billion it wasted on fraudulent hurricane assistance after the August 2005 storm, highlighting a need for stronger controls the next time a major hurricane strikes.
The report by the Government Accountability Office paints a picture of an agency still struggling — at substantial taxpayer expense — to find the balance between distributing quick aid to those in need while guarding against substantial abuse.

Last week, a federal judge in Washington ordered the Bush administration to resume housing payments for thousands of people displaced by Katrina, criticizing FEMA for a convoluted application process. FEMA is appealing that ruling.

The GAO audit found that numerous aid applicants received duplicate rental aid, with FEMA in one case providing free apartments to 10 people in Plano, Texas, while sending them $46,000 to cover out-of-pocket housing expenses.

Another $20 million was wasted on thousands of individuals who claimed the same property damage from both Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. FEMA also paid at least $3 million to more than 500 ineligible foreign students in the stricken Gulf Coast, the report said.

"Ineffective preventive controls have resulted in substantial fraudulent and improper payments," said GAO investigator Gregory Kutz. "The additional examples of potentially fraudulent and improper payments in our testimony today show that our estimate of $1 billion in improper and/or fraudulent payments is likely understated."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-12-06-katrina-fraud_x.htm


People are complaining that FEMA isn't helping??? Apparently, they're not only helping, they are helping people who are fraudulently filing multiple claims. Is this FEMA's fault??? People will complain if too much red tape is involved; but this is what happens when they try to act in a timely fashion for people who need help now (IMO, of course!!)!!
 
  • #307
Straitfan and czechmate7...

Both good posts, IMO :clap:

Oh how I'd love to go work for FEMA for a year and audit things - get rid of the fraudulent/duplicate expenses...and be able to turn around and give the benefits to those who need the assistance! As the article said, we as taxpayers can be a giving bunch, but we want the $$$ to go to the appropriate places!

ETA: I guess I read a different article that made the statement today about the taxpayers being a giving bunch....
 
  • #308
DEPUTYDAWG said:
Straitfan and czechmate7...

Both good posts, IMO :clap:

Oh how I'd love to go work for FEMA for a year and audit things - get rid of the fraudulent/duplicate expenses...and be able to turn around and give the benefits to those who need the assistance! As the article said, we as taxpayers can be a giving bunch, but we want the $$$ to go to the appropriate places!

ETA: I guess I read a different article that made the statement today about the taxpayers being a giving bunch....
Thanks Deputy!! I didn't post the entire article...didn't think we were allowed to do that on WS...but this may be the same one.
 
  • #309
DEPUTYDAWG said:
Straitfan and czechmate7...

Both good posts, IMO :clap:

Oh how I'd love to go work for FEMA for a year and audit things - get rid of the fraudulent/duplicate expenses...and be able to turn around and give the benefits to those who need the assistance! As the article said, we as taxpayers can be a giving bunch, but we want the $$$ to go to the appropriate places!

ETA: I guess I read a different article that made the statement today about the taxpayers being a giving bunch....
$$ given to charities like the Red Cross and Salvation Army....wonder if we could audit them as well to make sure those funds are going to appropriate places. Didn't they have a big scandal about one of those charities "mishandling" funds that led to the CEO getting axed?? There was LOTS of money given to these organizations and I'd like to know that the victims are receiving help with it!!
 
  • #310
WASHINGTON — One year after Katrina, the government is still squandering tens of millions of dollars in wasted disaster aid, including $17 million in bogus rental payments to people who had already received free trailers and apartments, federal investigators said Wednesday.
At the same time, the Federal Emergency Management Agency has recovered less than 1 percent of the $1 billion it wasted on fraudulent hurricane assistance after the August 2005 storm, highlighting a need for stronger controls the next time a major hurricane strikes.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,234762,00.html
 
  • #311
Marthatex said:
Do they have oil in California? Underground, that is?

Absolutely. You can find oil wells all over the state, much like Texas.

(Ever heard of the La Brea Tar pits? They are in the middle of Los Angeles. So much oil it bubbles to the surface in the form of tar.)

But most of the available oil has been pumped by now. There are still battles about off-shore drilling, as most people don't want to see our beloved beaches covered with oil spills.
 
  • #312
Nova said:
I believe the oil royalties on my first California house were $10/year. The company had stopped paying. No, I didn't sue.
OMGosh....that is horrible. We get a lot of money from oil royalties every year. Wonder why the laws are so different in California vs Texas?:confused:
 
  • #313
deandaniellws said:
OMGosh....that is horrible. We get a lot of money from oil royalties every year. Wonder why the laws are so different in Calfornia vs Texas?:confused:

I think maybe he didn't have too much oil. :)
 
  • #314
WASHINGTON — Facing growing opposition from Democrats and environmentalists, House leaders decided Tuesday to postpone a vote that could bring Louisiana billions in oil and gas royalties for coastal restoration, hurricane protection and flood control.
The House was set to vote on a Senate measure Tuesday afternoon that would have required two-thirds of the members present approve the bill. The legislation was to be brought up under what is called suspension in order to meet a Senate request that no amendments be attached to the bill.http://www.2theadvocate.com/news/politics/4838656.html




National legislation that could bring billions of dollars from offshore oil and gas royalties to the Bayou State may be tied up in the nation's capital. On the surface this may sound like more bureaucratic "broo-ha-ha" out of Washington, but in truth this measure could affect everyone living in Louisiana.
It is "do or die" time in Washington. Louisiana politicians are fighting "tooth and nail" in our nation's capital right now, trying to insure that the Bayou State receives more money. This is money that could help you be better protected from future hurricanes. http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5775016&nav=0nqx
 
  • #315
Nova said:
Absolutely. You can find oil wells all over the state, much like Texas.

(Ever heard of the La Brea Tar pits? They are in the middle of Los Angeles. So much oil it bubbles to the surface in the form of tar.)

But most of the available oil has been pumped by now. There are still battles about off-shore drilling, as most people don't want to see our beloved beaches covered with oil spills.

Well, yes, the discussion of drilling new fields in the Gulf is before our Congress as we speak. I'd almost rather drill out there than on land, but I wonder what it does to the Ocean floor and sea life? They're talking about drilling thousand of acres out there.

It would be good if we could get less dependent on oil; but of course the rich oil companies don't go for that. One of the upcoming investigations will be Cheney's "secret" meeting with the oil execs.

Keep in mind both my father and uncle worked for Exxon, so I'm not necessarily indocrinated against oil companies; grew up in that world as a matter of fact.

Oh I see that 2sisters posted what I heard on the radio yesterday; yes La would definitely profit from the drilling in the Gulf.
 
  • #316
Marthatex said:
Well, yes, the discussion of drilling new fields in the Gulf is before our Congress as we speak. I'd almost rather drill out there than on land, but I wonder what it does to the Ocean floor and sea life? They're talking about drilling thousand of acres out there.

It would be good if we could get less dependent on oil; but of course the rich oil companies don't go for that. One of the upcoming investigations will be Cheney's "secret" meeting with the oil execs.

Keep in mind both my father and uncle worked for Exxon, so I'm not necessarily indocrinated against oil companies; grew up in that world as a matter of fact.
I wish there was someway we could get off oil and onto alternative fuels. i need to look into it but my husband tells me something about corn being manufactured as a fuel source. Does anyone know anything about that? I am tired of the oil big shots making record paydays at our expense.
 
  • #317
2sisters said:
I wish there was someway we could get off oil and onto alternative fuels. i need to look into it but my husband tells me something about corn being manufactured as a fuel source. Does anyone know anything about that? I am tired of the oil big shots making record paydays at our expense.
I hear what you are saying, but.... so many communities would not exist without the oil business, Baytown being one of them. I came from a long line of engineers. My husband is also a retired Exxon-Mobile engineer.
 
  • #318
deandaniellws said:
I hear what you are saying, but.... so many communities would not exist without the oil business, Baytown being one of them. I came from a long line of engineers. My husband is also a retired Exxon-Mobile engineer.
True, I guess it is a double edged sword.
 
  • #319
2sisters said:
True, I guess it is a double edged sword.
It really is sisters. I don't know what the answer is either. I know that the Baytown schools are funded with a WHOLE LOT of Exxon dollars. The whole situation is a mess. :doh:
 
  • #320
2sisters said:
I wish there was someway we could get off oil and onto alternative fuels. i need to look into it but my husband tells me something about corn being manufactured as a fuel source. Does anyone know anything about that? I am tired of the oil big shots making record paydays at our expense.
My entire hometown (just about) would be unemployed if that were to happen. Oil is a big industry in Louisiana and Texas...it is a double edge sword!
 

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