Judge Rules Family Can't Refuse Chemo for Child With Cancer

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LinasK said:
In California, wearing a seat belt is Law and you can be ticketed for not wearing one. I will not drive passengers in my car unless they are buckled up. I only start the car once they are, and everyone who rides in my car knows this... There is an accident that just happened here where the mother and I think uncle were killed in a car crash and 3-year-old twins are in critical condition. The 3-year-olds were NOT wearing seat belts.:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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Update: both twins have died, one or both were thrown from the vehicle.
 
I am so sorry that these two children did not have a chance.

They were the victims of their mothers' stupidity and lack of care for their well being.

This neglect cost these two children their lives. The mother cost these two children their lives because of her decision to put the two toddlers in harms way.

You wonder why the seat belt law is in effect and enforced, this is a sad example of why the law is in place to protect children.

You know linasK, we must have the same type of car. Because our car does not "move" out of the driveway either or anywhere else without all seat belts done up.

To think that we both have these "types" of cars is amazing. What are the chances, eh.? Gee and you live in CA and I live in CA. But your state is sunny and bright and our country", well one word - winter.

Just for information - all Taxi's in our city are required to have seat belts in place for use. Even when out oldest was young and we took a cab, he did up his seat belt without being reminded. I was extremely happy about that.
 
Trino said:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/05/29/minnesota.forced.chemo/index.html

Daniel Hauser not responding well to treatment - attitude.
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Poor kid... one of the worst issues when it comes to cancer treatment, is where the state-of-mind is at... the stress level he is putting himself under and the parents have been fostering, is not good for his system. Hopefully he will come to understand that as sick as it is making him, it is being done in the name of making him better for the long-term.
 
Poor kid. I feel the damage is done - his mother has done quite a number on him. For one chemo treatment to be kicking his 🤬🤬🤬 is not a good sign - he is about the perfect age to tolerate it if his head was right.

When I think of the 14yo boy at our school who gets to go off treatment for ALL next month or the 15yo girl who just had a tumor removed from her leg and what troopers they were, I realize again how much parenting and attitude have to do with our very survival.
 
Daniel has now had two chemo treatments. He is supposed to have six. Although he is sick from them, his parents plan to stay the course.
 
I don't know much about that type of cancer, but wonder why the tumor is inoperable???

Such an agonizing situation for everyone. I mentioned in an earlier post that his belief would effect the success of the treatment and wish his Dr. would have taken that into consideration. He needs a different doctor who can help him understand that holistic treatments can help rebuild his immune system and support that while attacking the cancer with chemo. If this is the same doctor, Daniel sees him as the enemy.
 
Have not read entire thread but my 2 cents.
When I read my Daddy's Journal I will never forget the words "If the cancer doesn't kill me this chemo will...". I was only 10 when we lost him.
Fast forward 25 years and my Dad (step) has been diagnosed w/ brain cancer, surgery and treatments left him unable to walk immediatly, there came a point when I told my Mom enough, We were blessed enough to be able to care for him at home yet the Docs still wanted to see him and treat him. When they called about his appointment I asked my Mom to let him stay home, I asked him and he nodded, He could not walk or talk, could only move one hand and nod. No more. They finally admitted there was nothing they could do.
After watching that wonderful man suffer for 2 years I would never ever ever suggest anyone do so without thier consent.

Doctors are not miracle workers, sometimes treatment should cease if the prognosis is poor.

editing to add I read thread, prognosis is better than most.
I am still on fence about forced chemo, some breeze throught it some do not.
 
Update 15 Jun

Daniel Hauser's tumor is smaller after two treatments, the latest on 4 Jun. There is a motion to seal his medical records, so I suspect we won't hear more.
 
southcitymom said:
Thanks for the update, Trino. I am surprised that his med recs are being made public - I don't know that I understand why.
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It is my understanding that because this has become a public story, it will remain public. Very strange, since, as we all know, many public stories (i.e. records) are later sealed. I think if this decision were to be appealed (and I don't think it will be), a higher court would seal the records.
 
The parents are the ones who argued for the records to remain open, while the court appointed guardian wanted them sealed.

I think the parents want the world to see if Daniel follows the protocol and still dies or gets worse. Kind of like, "We told you so." Maybe I'm being insensitive, but that's my take.

And I'm glad the judge agreed if that's what they want. Then they can't later claim - when Daniel, hopefully, recovers completely and is free from his cancer - that it didn't work at all.

http://www.startribune.com/local/48554412.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUs

Daniel's court-appointed guardian had argued Monday that his medical records should be sealed and that subsequent hearings be closed to the public. The Hausers argued that both should remain open to permit a "robust public discussion" of the issues.
 
Trino said:
It is my understanding that because this has become a public story, it will remain public. Very strange, since, as we all know, many public stories (i.e. records) are later sealed. I think if this decision were to be appealed (and I don't think it will be), a higher court would seal the records.
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angelmom said:
The parents are the ones who argued for the records to remain open, while the court appointed guardian wanted them sealed.

I think the parents want the world to see if Daniel follows the protocol and still dies or gets worse. Kind of like, "We told you so." Maybe I'm being insensitive, but that's my take.

And I'm glad the judge agreed if that's what they want. Then they can't later claim - when Daniel, hopefully, recovers completely and is free from his cancer - that it didn't work at all.

http://www.startribune.com/local/48554412.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUs

Daniel's court-appointed guardian had argued Monday that his medical records should be sealed and that subsequent hearings be closed to the public. The Hausers argued that both should remain open to permit a "robust public discussion" of the issues.
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Very interesting. Thanks for these opinions and links. As long as Daniel and his parents are okay with it in the name of "robust public discussion" I am okay with it.
 
angelmom said:
I'm glad to hear that the treatment is working.
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From the article:

After the hearing, the Hausers' attorney Barbara Gislason acknowledged that it would have been suprising had the judge closed the case and returned all control over Daniel's cancer care to his parents. The Hausers were concerned about proceeding with chemotherapy because they noticed discrepancies in Daniel's blood levels between a lab report and comments from a Children's nurse.
"It's fair to say that each time he gets chemotherapy," Gislason said, "they are afraid he will die right that day from the chemotherapy."

Bless their hearts - this is hard on them. I hope it's for the best for everyone. I don't think anyone is surprised at the Judge's decision!
 
southcitymom said:
From the article:

After the hearing, the Hausers' attorney Barbara Gislason acknowledged that it would have been suprising had the judge closed the case and returned all control over Daniel's cancer care to his parents. The Hausers were concerned about proceeding with chemotherapy because they noticed discrepancies in Daniel's blood levels between a lab report and comments from a Children's nurse.
"It's fair to say that each time he gets chemotherapy," Gislason said, "they are afraid he will die right that day from the chemotherapy."

Bless their hearts - this is hard on them. I hope it's for the best for everyone. I don't think anyone is surprised at the Judge's decision!
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If I thought for a second something would kill my child, I would run away with him too.

I hope the medical professionals are big time working to educate these parents, comfort and support them. They are suspicious and terrified because of their lack understanding. It all makes sense now.

I work on an oncology unit and SO MUCH time is spent dispelling fears with facts. Sure there is much to be fearful of. Chemo is indeed the cause of many deaths. It's a terrible choice to have to make for your child . . . months of suffering and possible death, or a definite death if you do nothing at all.

I hope they get the help and encouragement they all need.
 
The associated press is stating that teh boy is really angry at being ordered to continue chemo. We may end up seeing another run away here. Hopefully the parents can remain strong, and the lawyers can keep these parents in line!
 
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