Jurors names to be released on or after 10/25

[natsound]

I spoke to our local district attorney today and asked him what he thought about the verdict. He says he was shocked, and says it's called the "CSI effect", when jurors are hesitant to return a guilty verdict without direct evidence. He says it's a constant obstacle. I REALLY wish Ashton would have pounded on this in his closing argument. It might have made a difference.

 

[RR0004]

Id say the attrocity Casey comitted and her well documented dancing on her daughters decomposing corpse whipped the public into a frenzy...with good reason.
As far as the jurrors go I wish them no harm but they are inarguably fools to come up with the verdict they did.I feel little sympathy.
Folks can argue abstractions all day long.They allowed themselves to be manipulated into turning a baby killer loose on the street and denied justice to her victim.

But that's just it...we can think and feel for ourselves...and we do...no need for the media's help to point out the obvious. Any anger I feel about the jury's decision is based on my own opinions...not the media's.

 

[RR0004]

:waitasec:

I am wondering about something: WHY is Judge Perry STILL "protecting" the Jury ?

They are NO LONGER in Judge Perry's JURISDICTION ! The Jury's "duty" has been "completed" !

Does Judge Perry realize that the Jury did NOT have any "respect" for his "admonitions" ?

Does Judge Perry realize that the Jury OBVIOUSLY discussed the case during sequestration ... and that the Jury obviously started "deliberations" before Jury Instructions were read to them ?

- 10 1/2 hours deliberating - minus "comfy" breaks -- for a 6 week Trial ...
- The Jury did NOT ask for one piece of evidence ...
- The Jury did NOT ask one question -- an explanation of any instruction, etc.

Absolutely NO WAY ...

It is My Opinion that "something" happened with that Jury, and I believe the people have a "RIGHT" to know the TRUTH !

I sincerely hope this matter is being investigated ...

And if it is NOT being investigated, I will have lost ALL FAITH in the Judicial System as well as Judge Perry and the State Attorneys of Florida !

MOO MOO MOO ...

In the motion posted today I found it interesting that he stated they worked hard for 6 weeks. Worked on what? Listening? Interesting word choice.

 

[erinleigh]

Casey Judge Wants Change In Public Records Law

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The judge in the Casey Anthony trial is urging the Legislature to change Florida's liberal public records law to exempt jurors' names in high profile cases from becoming public.

more at link

http://www.wftv.com/news/28684148/detail.html

so now since 12 people refused to use their brains they need special law to protect them? that will make for great personal accountablility. the reporters seeking a real story will have no way to investigate possible jury tampering in high profile cases. how will they know if a person has a vested interest in the outcome if they dont know who they are. if this starts i can see the sunshine laws starting to tighten as well. pretty soon we will protect everyone involved. hey maybe we should and maybe we shouldn't but it seems to me everyone in the casey anthony case is getting a free pass. the defendant, the perjury spewing mother, the deceitful JB who has slithered past sanctions, experts not following court instructions, CM and his middle finger of affection, a dancing DCS and now a jury who chose to ignore the law. will it ever end?

 

[jon_burrows]

anyone think they don't want anyone to talk because maybe one or two are writing a book and they want to protect the profits?

Yes.

IMO

 

[2door73chevy]

I think the jury members will be fine..Most of the "anger" is from mothers and I'd hope they would would want to stay out of jail and not risk an attack on someone they don't know and does not effect their everyday lives one bit. JMO

 

[cuppy199]

In the motion posted today I found it interesting that he stated they worked hard for 6 weeks. Worked on what? Listening? Interesting word choice.

Yea I seen that. To be honest after reading that motion I have lost alot of respect for that man.JMO

 

[jon_burrows]

Casey Judge Wants Change In Public Records Law

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The judge in the Casey Anthony trial is urging the Legislature to change Florida's liberal public records law to exempt jurors' names in high profile cases from becoming public.

more at link

http://www.wftv.com/news/28684148/detail.html

"Judge Belvin Perry said in an order Tuesday that releasing the names of jurors "makes a mockery" of Florida's privacy law, especially in high-profile cases where jurors' may receive threats because of their verdict."

I completely disagree with JBP.

Laws were broken under his watch in that courtroom and perjury will not be persued. His courtroom rooms were broken every day by the defendant and her attorneys while he did NOTHING. Before he starts throwing the words 'mockery of justice' around he better look at himself in the mirror.

He rushed jury selection along and 'rehabilitated' people who should have never been on there in the first place. He threatened to go to the homeless camp and pick a jury from there in his rush to seat a jury. No accounting ever took place for the 200k from ABC paid to FCA for pictures after she was declared indigent. The public picked up the tab for a supposed accident.

I don't want to hear anything from him now.

IMO

 

[erinleigh]

"Judge Belvin Perry said in an order Tuesday that releasing the names of jurors "makes a mockery" of Florida's privacy law, especially in high-profile cases where jurors' may receive threats because of their verdict."

I completely disagree with JBP.

Laws were broken under his watch in that courtroom and perjury will not be persued. His courtroom rooms were broken every day by the defendant and her attorneys while he did NOTHING. Before he starts throwing the words 'mockery of justice' around he better look at himself in the mirror.

He rushed jury selection along and 'rehabilitated' people who should have never been on there in the first place. He threatened to go to the homeless camp and pick a jury from there in his rush to seat a jury. No accounting ever took place for the 200k from ABC paid to FCA for pictures after she was declared indigent and the public picked up the tab for a supposed accident.

I don't want to hear anything from him now.

IMO

gotta love how casey was allowed to testify every single day by shaking her head, mouthing the words NO, not covering her mouth when speaking to DCS when she needed to be lip read by the jury ect. i was sure there was an order for no reactions. did that not apply to defendant who refused to testify? maybe im wrong

 

[imagirlgeek]

I'm just really surprised that the names haven't come out already. No doubt the friends and families of the jurors would keep quiet, but what about acquaintances and coworkers? I would have thought someone would have exposed them...even if just by accident.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I am not understanding your post. I am not implying anything, I am flat out stating I believe the jurors safety and well being is at risk. It's an opinion.

No, I do not respect the verdict, and no I do not respect the law regarding release of jurors names. I also believe there is some leeway there personally, and that the law is wrong. Guess the Senator who said he will work on a Bill for juror protection also thinks the existing law needs to be changed.

It seems to me that HHJBP felt, and may still feel, the jurors are at risk as well. I respect his opinion 100 percent.

If you are "flat out stating" something - it goes above and beyond implications - therefore - you are stating the public is dangerous and out to get the jury. You think the public (regular people) is going to harm Casey. Come on now

 

[Pattymarie]

"Judge Belvin Perry said in an order Tuesday that releasing the names of jurors "makes a mockery" of Florida's privacy law, especially in high-profile cases where jurors' may receive threats because of their verdict."

I completely disagree with JBP.

Laws were broken under his watch in that courtroom and perjury will not be persued. His courtroom rooms were broken every day by the defendant and her attorneys while he did NOTHING. Before he starts throwing the words 'mockery of justice' around he better look at himself in the mirror.

He rushed jury selection along and 'rehabilitated' people who should have never been on there in the first place. He threatened to go to the homeless camp and pick a jury from there in his rush to seat a jury. No accounting ever took place for the 200k from ABC paid to FCA for pictures after she was declared indigent. The public picked up the tab for a supposed accident.

I don't want to hear anything from him now.

IMO

I completely agree. Well said.

 

[jon_burrows]

gotta love how casey was allowed to testify every single day by shaking her head, mouthing the words NO, not covering her mouth when speaking to DCS when she needed to be lip read by the jury ect. i was sure there was an order for no reactions. did that not apply to defendant who refused to testify? maybe im wrong

I completely agree with you. She testified every day without having to get on the stand. JB did a lot of face making too. There was also the drama between FCA and Simms. It was beyond ridiculous. FCA got more animated as the trial went on and why not, JBP let her get away with it. The buck stops at JBP. Everyone knew what they were dealing with after opening statements. No low was too low for anyone on the DT.

JBP should have sent the jury out the first time FCA started her stunts and told her if she wanted to testify she was free to get up on the witness stand.

IMO

 

[jon_burrows]

this is why i vote for videotaped deliberations and having an officer of the court present. the bullying tactics are a part of what makes our great system flawed. Its sad to think how many innocent people are jailed and guilty ones set free due to the court having no clue what is going on behind closed doors with 12 unsupervised individuals. you never who is on a powertrip to bully their opinion onto you. i wish people would hold firm to their beliefs and not submit to be on the popular side. its was juror #2's duty to stand firm in what he believed if he truly believed in guilt. i have a strong feeling the foreman and JF were very into pushing their side and not hearing anything else. i would have prefered a hung jury on this.

Excellent idea.

IMO

 

[Flossie JMO]

If you are "flat out stating" something - it goes above and beyond implications - therefore - you are stating the public is dangerous and out to get the jury. You think the public (regular people) is going to harm Casey. Come on now

I am stating the jurors are at risk, that is what I am stating. Unrelated, yes, I think Casey's safety is at risk too. Casey's risk is not related to the jurors imo, and I don't have any interest in protection for Casey. Jurors however, should be kept safe. The effects of this can have an enormous effect on potential jurors and jury decisions and the whole process of trials by jury IMO. I am looking at the big picture and the enormous impacts this could have IMO.

I also agree with HHBJP releasing the names makes a mockery of privacy laws. The laws need to change in Florida imo. They should enact laws that 1) do not allow jurors names to be released, 2) do not allow jurors to discuss the case and 3) do not allow jurors to profit from discussing the case. Easily done, and in effect elsewhere.

IMO

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I am stating the jurors are at risk, that is what I am stating. Unrelated, yes, I think Casey's safety is at risk too. Casey's risk is not related to the jurors imo, and I don't have any interest in protection for Casey. Jurors however, should be kept safe. The effects of this can have an enormous effect on potential jurors and jury decisions and the whole process of trials by jury IMO. I am looking at the big picture and the enormous impacts this could have IMO.

I also agree with HHBJP releasing the names makes a mockery of privacy laws. The laws need to change in Florida imo. They should enact laws that 1) do not allow jurors names to be released, 2) do not allow jurors to discuss the case and 3) do not allow jurors to profit from discussing the case. Easily done, and in effect elsewhere.

IMO

Upon what are you basing this statement? Because you think people might hurt them? What privacy laws are you talking about?

 

[Flossie JMO]

Upon what are you basing this statement? Because you think people might hurt them? What privacy laws are you talking about?

bbm Which statement? yes I think people might hurt them. Do you mean the privacy law HHJBP refers to in the quotes from articles? Not clear what you are asking. I haven't seen the order, does anyone have a link? Does he site the Florida privacy law section or public records law section?

 

[Amster]

Jurors not allowed to talk about the case?? Don't think so.....freedom of speech

 

[Nixie]

I completely agree with you. She testified every day without having to get on the stand. JB did a lot of face making too. There was also the drama between FCA and Simms. It was beyond ridiculous. FCA got more animated as the trial went on and why not, JBP let her get away with it. The buck stops at JBP. Everyone knew what they were dealing with after opening statements. No low was too low for anyone on the DT.

JBP should have sent the jury out the first time FCA started her stunts and told her if she wanted to testify she was free to get up on the witness stand.

IMO

I am sorry I know many people on here love Ashton, but he did alot of his own expression throughout the trail. He laughed, rolled his eyes, and let the jury know how he felt about the defense. I don't think Casey was told by the judge she couldn't react but I do remember many people in the media commenting on how expressionless she was in front of the jury.

 

[Flossie JMO]

I am sorry I know many people on here love Ashton, but he did alot of his own expression throughout the trail. He laughed, rolled his eyes, and let the jury know how he felt about the defense. I don't think Casey was told by the judge she couldn't react but I do remember many people in the media commenting on how expressionless she was in front of the jury.

I am a big fan of Linda and Jeff, and feel terrible for them about the verdict, they truly cared about Caylee imo, but yes indeed Ashton did show a lot of reactions. IMO