JVM on Haleigh 8/20/10

[epiphany]

KimP saying that neighbors reported that M had left the trailer many times before when R was at work

Is that what KimP said?

 

[epiphany]

KimP said the reports of Ron leaving work "are substantiated or unsubstantiated...."

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

KimP saying that neighbors reported that M had left the trailer many times before when R was at work

Is that what KimP said?

and KP says she had reports from security guards that Ron left the kids in the car at least two times while at work.

 

[epiphany]

JW: ToC didnt help JO in any way shape or form; gave info also to LE and Putnam County
JW: re the black bag: maybe it was a blanket
ArtH: he says she was strangled by Joe

 

[epiphany]

JW: Joe has a history of being violent with this family
JW: we look at him (Joe) from the outside
JW: he (JO) went into a rage
JW: strangling is speculation (by ToC); he didnt actually see what went on

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

I think I know where the Spin Doctors got their name--James Werter. JMO

 

[Amster]

Misty slept with a gun under her pillow, given to her by Ron?? What? Really?

 

[Emeralgem]

Tommy didn't see what transpired in that bedroom...per Werter

I recall hearing several months ago Tommy stated Jo went in to a rage when he (Jo) saw Haleigh deceased in the bedroom....

 

[Amster]

ohhhhh....big bad Joe....scary.

 

[Dee10]

It is going to be interesting to read the transcript to see the fine details, especially from Kim.

 

[epiphany]

JVM: was she dead when taken out of the house?
JW: ToC says she wasnt moving, she was quiet, unmoving; i cant give a clinical answer

 

[epiphany]

JVM: a compelling scenario from t attorneys
LeviP: BS from t Croslin clan; he (Ron) doesnt get into a fight over his own daughter

 

[Amster]

Wait....do we know what time this supposedly happened? Did Lindsey notice that Tommy was not home?

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

AH recounting AGAIN his dinner with Ron and keeping your friends close and enemies closer.

 

[epiphany]

GMFlo says M and R argued all night over M having sex w/someone else (paraphrased)

 

[angeleleven]

JVM: was she dead when taken out of the house?
JW: ToC says she wasnt moving, she was quiet, unmoving; i cant give a clinical answer

I thought she was suppose to be in a black bag. How could they see if she was moving?

 

[Gwen]

Why won't Art Harris let Flo and Werter answer for themselves? His sources were outted tonite too I think. Teresa told the story of Ron and Misty up all night working out their relationship.

 

[Helplessly Hoping]

ohhhhh....big bad Joe....scary.

But the gun(s) weren't there this particular night? :waitasec:

 

[Amster]

Good job, Levi. Using common sense completely baffles the rest of the panel. :toast:

 

[Amster]

But the gun(s) weren't there this particular night? :waitasec:

And....didn't Ronald deny any fight over a gun?