2010.09.27 - Issues with JVM discussing bombshell developments in Haleigh Case

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I remember an early interview with LE, where it was said that the child's gm, 'I believe' was there early. Those aren't the exact words, but close. If TN wasn't there, I wondered why he didn't correct himself, but I guess she was there. But it's strange that we haven't heard a peep since. When GGS was on NG verifying that she had been at the trailer, I wonder why TN didn't put her 2 cents in?

I believe that was when the LE, not sure who, was sitting in his ofc behind a desk being interviewed by a female reporter. Have looked for it, but can't find it. IIRC, the interviewer ask something like was that IN, and he said yes. I had the feeling when I heard it he wasn't sure about what he was saying. I was surprised too that the reporter didn't ask anymore about it. Wish we could find it.
 
Have we heard anymore about Tommy? where is everybody? looks like no one is posting on haleigh's thread.
 
Have we heard anymore about Tommy? where is everybody? looks like no one is posting on haleigh's thread.

Everyone is waiting with guarded and baited breath for news.....

We probably won't hear anything official until/if LE makes a move ... unless we trust AH 'sources'.
 
Everyone is waiting with guarded and baited breath for news.....

We probably won't hear anything official until/if LE makes a move ... unless we trust AH 'sources'.

Hy cyberborg, I have an early Dr's appointment tomorrow, but now I can't go to bed for fear I may miss something. Gonna go take my meds and check in. BRB Maybe my daughter is right and this is really an addiction.:crazy:
 
Now I want to see it again too. I can't seem to locate it either. If you find it let me know.

Good luck, guys! I searched for weeks and asked for anyone who knew a link to find it would they post it? And never had any luck finding it! I've NOT EVER SEEN THE VIDEO! So, if anyone knows where it can be located, I would be ABSOLUTELY THRILLED!!!
 
Hy cyberborg, I have an early Dr's appointment tomorrow, but now I can't go to bed for fear I may miss something. Gonna go take my meds and check in. BRB Maybe my daughter is right and this is really an addiction.:crazy:

Nite everyone. Maybe good news and justice for Haleigh in the morning.:bedtime:
 
Could it be? Did LE think that Misty was actually telling the truth this time so they are going to do exactly what she suggested? Ask Tommy. Tommy knows everything! It is going to be interesting to see if Tommy comes up with in the next version in this saga. This time I hope that he comes clean.

Hey Lone, in that article that you posted, it said something about Tommy being brought back because there is a motion hearing Oct 4....I think it has something to do with his sentence...
 
While reading the latest "Bombshell I noticed something in Shoemaker's response. He is verifying that Teresa was at Ron's MH at some point during the time period of February 9th, 2010. I guess we can add this to the timeline. And just in case someone wants to point out that she arrived with the photo and jacket, I really think that we can safely assume that she was there earlier just from how he stated the information. However, there is no mention of the "nurse" in the Cummings' family as being with GGMS. Interesting!

http://www.artharris.com/2010/09/26/exclusive-tommy-croslin-took-haleigh-misty-chan

“This theory sounds pretty crazy”, Shoemaker tells The Bald Truth, in response to Chelsea’s blame game of his client as the puppetmaster behind his own daughter’s demise. “We have people saying he picked her up at the bus stop that day, and his mother came over and grandmother dropped off laundry that night and saw the kids when he was at work. It just doesn’t add up that he had anything to do with it.”

We heard that from Lt. Greenwood too..so maybe he was correct when he said Teresa had been at the home that evening. So yep, I believe it. I wonder why didn't here that from Teresa at some point?
 
I think it would be too early to move him back for a hearing on October 4. They would do that the night before generally.
 
While reading the latest "Bombshell I noticed something in Shoemaker's response. He is verifying that Teresa was at Ron's MH at some point during the time period of February 9th, 2010. I guess we can add this to the timeline. And just in case someone wants to point out that she arrived with the photo and jacket, I really think that we can safely assume that she was there earlier just from how he stated the information. However, there is no mention of the "nurse" in the Cummings' family as being with GGMS. Interesting!

http://www.artharris.com/2010/09/26/exclusive-tommy-croslin-took-haleigh-misty-chan

“This theory sounds pretty crazy”, Shoemaker tells The Bald Truth, in response to Chelsea’s blame game of his client as the puppetmaster behind his own daughter’s demise. “We have people saying he picked her up at the bus stop that day, and his mother came over and grandmother dropped off laundry that night and saw the kids when he was at work. It just doesn’t add up that he had anything to do with it.”

Thanks Lonetraveler, I can't believe I've read that article a couple of times and had completely overlooked this. It's interesting to note that Shoemaker chronologically lists Teresa's visit between the bus stop at around 3:45 pm and GGM's visit at around 7:30 - 8:00 pm.

A while back Lt Greenwood told us Teresa was there, saying she claimed to have seen Haleigh around 7:00 pm. I had previously thought that might be a misspeak on his part, but now I'm not so sure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ShwI1zU1E

You know, if enough people keep telling me Teresa was there that evening, I'm gonna have to start believing it, and that'll open up a whole new can of worms as to why Misty has never ONCE mentioned her visit.
 
Good luck, guys! I searched for weeks and asked for anyone who knew a link to find it would they post it? And never had any luck finding it! I've NOT EVER SEEN THE VIDEO! So, if anyone knows where it can be located, I would be ABSOLUTELY THRILLED!!!
I've never seen it, either, and I don't recall that it was released. Hard to believe I could've missed it. :waitasec:
 
Ron had a legal right to own firearms.

He was not a convicted felon before this current conviction.

I am not aware of any laws perventing others from owning vintage guns. Gun collectors often collect vintage firearms.

I am also not sure if any weapons have to be registered in Florida.

If one is purchased from a gun shop then a background check is done but it it is bought from an individual owner it isn't.

I know here in Georgia we do not have to register our guns. Handguns or long guns. We do have to go through background checks if we purchase from a gun shop/dealer.

IMO

I don't think it is because it is "vintage" is what makes it illegal...I thought possibly because it was a military issued gun would have possibly been why it was illegal, but that was jmo... Do not know for sure why it is illegal but IT IS...
bolded below by me..
~SNIP
“What it means is that the machine gun is real,” Steve Brown goes on, adding that his law enforcement contacts advised him they’d retrieved it from a Putnam County drop site after an anonymous tipster heard they were looking for it and phoned in directions to the gun. Other sources tell me a Cummings relative was harboring the illegal weapon for Ronald. “The only thing Misty was wrong about was the color of the bag. She said it was black. Maybe Joe had a black coat over it when he left
end snip~

ETA~ Here's a quote stating why its illegal...
~snip
We can’t confirm whether Cummings has identified the machine gun, but can reveal it’s said to be fully automatic, an illegal weapon to own if not registered with the Department of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (ATF). It’s old enough to qualify as a “relic,” or collectible since it was manufactured more than 50 years ago. But since convicted felons can’t legally pack, it’s doubtful Ronald, if he’s indeed the owner, will be claiming the killer antique anytime soon.
~end snip
http://www.artharris.com/2010/09/24/exclusive-kiss-ronald-cummings-bye-bye/
 
Thanks Lonetraveler, I can't believe I've read that article a couple of times and had completely overlooked this. It's interesting to note that Shoemaker chronologically lists Teresa's visit between the bus stop at around 3:45 pm and GGM's visit at around 7:30 - 8:00 pm.

A while back Lt Greenwood told us Teresa was there, saying she claimed to have seen Haleigh around 7:00 pm. I had previously thought that might be a misspeak on his part, but now I'm not so sure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ShwI1zU1E

You know, if enough people keep telling me Teresa was there that evening, I'm gonna have to start believing it, and that'll open up a whole new can of worms as to why Misty has never ONCE mentioned her visit.
well, Greenwood never retracted that statement, & he even called her Miss Neves...but this does make me wonder if she was there, (& Greenwood & Shomaker both say so), then WTH was going on to make her feel the need to send a relative to check on things. Why didn't 1 of them pick up the kids? Why has TN distanced herself from her visit? Was Ron there, I wonder. I had a dream last night, that Misty was talking to cops about a big argument between her & TN, & how mad she was about her weekend. just a dream, but I wonder if TN left in a hissy & then sent Sykes to act as a buffer? If Ron was there, I can picture a big brou ha ha.
 
i think if rons an addict .. hed keep them well stashed even from misty .. bc addicts hide thier pills .. in very secret places usually .. unless they live alone .. if they live with another druggie then nah.. he had them hid most likely . i knew some addicts and all 3 of them did that .. they all lived with eachother .. so i doubt he kept them accessable to his kids not only that .. he wouldnt like that type of life to end so hes gonna make damn sure that the kids dont take them in case they do die .. or if they have to go to the dr and as often as heleigh did .. im sure he didnt want any kind of pills in her blood stream in case she had needed blood tests . all of that wouldve put his lifestyle in jeopardy imho .. just my 2 cents on that
 
I am trying to find the video of Ron at the store buying the beer etc.,when he was on his way home from "werk".....not having any luck....wanted to see wht he was wearing in that video. I don't recall him wearing dark colored overalls, but I can't find the video to verify. Need help

I must of missed that video because I don't recall LE ever releasing it. Dang...hope someone post it so we can see.. Did you get to see it wckedeye?
 
Thanks Lonetraveler, I can't believe I've read that article a couple of times and had completely overlooked this. It's interesting to note that Shoemaker chronologically lists Teresa's visit between the bus stop at around 3:45 pm and GGM's visit at around 7:30 - 8:00 pm.

A while back Lt Greenwood told us Teresa was there, saying she claimed to have seen Haleigh around 7:00 pm. I had previously thought that might be a misspeak on his part, but now I'm not so sure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1ShwI1zU1E

You know, if enough people keep telling me Teresa was there that evening, I'm gonna have to start believing it, and that'll open up a whole new can of worms as to why Misty has never ONCE mentioned her visit.

Thanks Papa....I was looking for you..I knew you would post the video...THANK YOU

I'm starting to think that she was there...I think Misty didn't mention her being there just like she didn't mention GMSykes visit either until months later...and still even then we only heard about GMSykes and the aunt...I wonder why? Could Teresa be our "surprise person of interest"? Something is wrong here.
 
This confirms, even more so for me, that something - whatever happened to HaLeigh - happened shortly after HaLeigh got off the bus. So now we've got Misty, Ronald, and Teresa at the MH according to SM, yet TN has never, to my knowledge, "owned" that. Seems to me if it were my grandchild that went missing, that's a story I'd be telling and re-telling... the last time I saw my grandbaby but not TN. She's distanced herself completely from that MH that afternoon/evening. Oh yeah, but GGMS's went over to drop laundry off...something stinks in Denmark!
 
A cheer for you!!
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I agree 100% and add to your post this one other detail[that of course is jmo]....

I see it as the info that was given wasn't sat on or hidden but rather that early in the case was not known to be relevant or important... Meaning that only after LE gleaning the partial truths from Tommy and Misty in these past 9 mos and carefully putting all of the puzzle pieces together, only then did LE realize that particular days or specific hours of particular days or events that were once seen as irrelevant that occurred in the days leading "up to the actual crime" were of great importance... Therefor going back to Ron and questioning about these specific days and events and thus making this info told by Ron EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND VALUABLE TO SOLVING HALEIGH'S CASE... jmo but is a different way to look at it and imo is quite possible...

Dunno, LE might easily have overlooked something, but Ronald has said that LE was very interested in hearing about events that had happened before the crime. At least in Misty's life and his own. IMO it doesn't sound like it was ever considered irrelevant by LE, only by RC.

Cummings said he and former girlfriend Misty Croslin — who he has since married and is now Misty Cummings — have been unfairly targeted.

“There should have been more attention to Crystal’s family,” he said. “I think they should have paid more attention to everyone rather than just me and Misty.”
...
Ronald Cummings said the investigation went in the wrong direction.

“They took a child-abduction investigation and made it a personal investigation,” he said. “Instead of keeping the focus on finding Haleigh, they made the focus on Misty and what she was doing one weekend and what happened six months ago and what happened seven years ago. It was tunnel vision.”

Cummings has cut off interviews with investigators.

“Besides ‘No I didn’t have nothing to do with my child being missing,’ what do you say?” he asked.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-08-09/story/haleighs_family_remains_divided_6_months_later
 
I must of missed that video because I don't recall LE ever releasing it. Dang...hope someone post it so we can see.. Did you get to see it wckedeye?

That video has never been released for public consumption - what I wouldn't give to see it! (On the other hand, it's probably in black/white & grainy...)
 
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I remember an early interview with LE, where it was said that the child's gm, 'I believe' was there early. Those aren't the exact words, but close. If TN wasn't there, I wondered why he didn't correct himself, but I guess she was there. But it's strange that we haven't heard a peep since. When GGS was on NG verifying that she had been at the trailer, I wonder why TN didn't put her 2 cents in?

Like I said, I find it "off" that a grandmother wouldn't be sharing (often) her account of the last time she saw her grandbaby before she disappeared - unless that "last time" holds memories of something she'd much rather forget...
 
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