Kathleen Savio's Death #1

[SeriouslySearching]

She layed on her stomach for at least 6 hours to let lividity set in. Then she was moved to a sitting position in the tub.

I thought I read somewhere she was found face down, but the neighbor seemed to contradict that.

 

[cheko1]

Do we know when the last time anyone spoke to KS?

 

[Squishified]

In the time that the tub water was "slowly draining out", would rigor mortis have set in?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Do we know when the last time anyone spoke to KS?

Geat question! I haven't heard anything on that point.

 

[SuziQ]

I thought I read somewhere she was found face down, but the neighbor seemed to contradict that.

The tub is too small to lay down in let alone face down.

 

[mysteriew]

If I am understanding this all correctly, lol, lividity started showing up with in 30 min. but would have been light. If body shifted before full lividity I think there would be multiple lividity places (like front and back) and Kathleen was only reported anterior. So movement would probably have to have been sometime 4-8 hours later. But by that time, a lot of rigor would have taken place. It was April right? Turning the heat off in the home might have delayed rigor some, so 4 hours after death maybe there was enough movement to place in the tub?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

As long as her head was lower than her body, it would be considered face down. I know the tub was small, but if she were slumped far enough into it...the lividity would have been the same.

 

[SuziQ]

In the time that the tub water was "slowly draining out", would rigor mortis have set in?

She was not moved before lividity set in 6-8 hours. By then rigor would have set in.

 

[mysteriew]

As long as her head was lower than her body, it would be considered face down. I know the tub was small, but if she were slumped far enough into it...the lividity would have been the same.

But why wouldn't her rear and lower legs have shown more lividity?

 

[cheko1]

Geat question! I haven't heard anything on that point.

I haven't read a thing about her final day or days! We know DP had the boys...........but what was she doing?

I wish Greta would ask the sister.....to clear up some questions.

 

[SuziQ]

As long as her head was lower than her body, it would be considered face down. I know the tub was small, but if she were slumped far enough into it...the lividity would have been the same.

It would have been on her back if that was the case. It was on the front of her body. She was found sitting up.

 

[mysteriew]

Yeah, two questions. Did Drew work that weekend and when did someone last talk to Kathleen.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I think there is a discrepancy here.

 

[mysteriew]

It would have been on her back if that was the case. It was on the front of her body. She was found sitting up.

No if she was found sitting up, but slumped over gravity would have drawn the blood to the lowest point. Her legs and her rear would have been lowest. She might have had some minor lividity on her face chest area, but most would have been the rear

 

[mysteriew]

I think there is a discrepancy here.

Discrepancy in our theory or in the autopsy/positioning?

 

[SuziQ]

SS, the descrepancie is what lead the States attorneys office to reopen the case. Her autopsy indicates she was on her stomach. But she was found sitting up.

 

[SuziQ]

From the tox screen report:
3-2 2004, 2:40PM tox report requested

From the death report:
3-1-2004, 2:20PM time of autopsy

I think the date of the autopsy should read 3-2-2004.

On her death cert it says date of injury unknown, pronounced dead at 11:17 PM on 3-1-2004.

I'm thinking stomach contents is her morning coffee and Drew killed her before she had a chance to eat anything. Then came back many hours later and moved her.

 

[cheko1]

Here is some info found from the New York Post: Tells about the relationship of DP & Ks while married!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11132007/news/nationalnews/he_wants_me_dead_920252.htm?page=0

 

[Tom'sGirl]

I have some thoughts on Kathleen's Autopsy Report, other than the obvious errors in Time of Death and Autopsy time.

My thinking is that unless something is high priority/suspicious they don't do a thorough exam...........like x-rays for instance.

Rarely do Autopsies take place immediately upon receiving the body, and I think Kathleen actually died on Sunday, Feb. 29th, not Monday, March 1st which would account for the time errors on report, they were dated wrong.

I reviewed three death reports I have in my possession that occurred in my family. The one death that occurred in my home had the wrong day/date of death, it actually reflected the following day and was filled out at the hospital.

On one Death Certificate, it reflected the correct day/date as he passed in a hospital, but they put the wrong age (couldn't do the math I guess) and was signed by a doctor who wasn't even working at the hospital that day.

If Drew had the children for weekend visitation it would seem he would return the children on Sunday night, not on a Monday..................just my thoughts here :hand:

 

[mysteriew]

I have some thoughts on Kathleen's Autopsy Report, other than the obvious errors in Time of Death and Autopsy time.

My thinking is that unless something is high priority/suspicious they don't do a thorough exam...........like x-rays for instance.

Rarely do Autopsies take place immediately upon receiving the body, and I think Kathleen actually died on Sunday, Feb. 29th, not Monday, March 1st which would account for the time errors on report, they were dated wrong.

I reviewed three death reports I have in my possession that occurred in my family. The one death that occurred in my home had the wrong day/date of death, it actually reflected the following day and was filled out at the hospital.

On one Death Certificate, it reflected the correct day/date as he passed in a hospital, but they put the wrong age (couldn't do the math I guess) and was signed by a doctor who wasn't even working at the hospital that day.

If Drew had the children for weekend visitation it would seem he would return the children on Sunday night, not on a Monday..................just my thoughts here :hand:

Good point