Kathleen Savio's death #2

[DeltaDawn]

I feel very sorry for Stacy because she felt she had no recourse against Drew.
I am sure Drew would have been holding this incident of Stacy lying to the police over Stacy's head every chance he got. I also think once she started talking divorce Drew started insinuationg she might have a little accident of her own...just like Kathleen.

I can't remember exactly which interview but in one interview recently since the info on the minster came out Pam Bosco said when Stacy called Pam the next day after Kathleen's body was found to tell them that Kathleen had died and the story of how she was found Pam said to Cassandra I think that Drew killed Kathleen. If Stacy had told Pam the truth then maybe Pam could have helped her figure a way to handle this situation. It seems Pam had misgivings about Drew then right from the start.

I think that possibly in the weeks prior to her death she did give Cassandra and Pam more info on Drew and the situation ..but how much info we don't know. I am hoping it was a lot of info and that she told them were to find her journal..I am hoping she shared this info with more then just the pastor and we just don;t know with who yet.

 

[Wudge]

This is incorrect. No witness (except in a specific cases involving child abuse due to recent statutes) is required to voluntarily divulge information. If they are questioned by LE and lie then they are open to charges of obstruction, but just keeping quiet is not a crime, although I personally find it disgusting.

What I understood to be true was that Stacy did not just keep quiet, but when questioned said what Drew had told her to say..that he was at home asleep in bed with her that evening.

According to the pastor's storyline, correct. Moreover, Stacy was not his wife at the time, but soon became his wife. Thus, she provided a clear and extreme level of "comfort". Providing comfort to a spouse is expected and legal. Providing comfort fully and freely to a known murderer is illegal.

 

[SuziQ]

According to the pastor's storyline, correct. Moreover, Stacy was not his wife at the time, but soon became his wife. Thus, she provided a clear and extreme level of "comfort". Providing comfort to a spouse is expected and legal. Providing comfort fully and freely to a known murderer is illegal.

Stacy and Drew married 6 months before Kathleen was murdered.

 

[MysteryAddict]

I still find this news shocking ,that Stacy was Drew's alibi for the night he killed Kathleen!

It's not like a wife who had been married 30 years, only 6 months?

If he confessed to her, why would she stay in the same house with a murderer one more day??

As Nan says, It's hard to imagine not getting away as fast as she could!!

Everyone excuses it based on fear and I'm sure she had to be afraid of him, and yet when you look at the pictures of her and she's smiling in most of them.

She doesn't look like a girl who is carrying a heavy burden.

She doesn't look like she's scared to death!

 

[Wudge]

Stacy and Drew married 6 months before Kathleen was murdered.

Credited.

 

[mysteriew]

She was young. And I am sure that whatever explanation that DrewP gave her for the death was highly slanted in DrewP's favor. Something that with her inexperience she believed. Only after getting older and living with DrewP for a while did she maybe question what really happened.

A wife cannot be forced to testify against her husband I know. Can a wife be charged for giving a false alibi to a husband?

 

[Wudge]

She was young. And I am sure that whatever explanation that DrewP gave her for the death was highly slanted in DrewP's favor. Something that with her inexperience she believed. Only after getting older and living with DrewP for a while did she maybe question what really happened.

A wife cannot be forced to testify against her husband I know. Can a wife be charged for giving a false alibi to a husband?

Absolutely, which is the essence of the story Stacy allegedly told the pastor. She allegedly bore false witness.

 

[thesleuther]

Forget the phone calls for a minute...where is the bag of women's clothing? Has it ever been mentioned what happened to them? All I keep hearing is that Stacy reported to the Pastor she saw Drew with it, but nothing about what became of it. This could directly connect Drew to the murder and the phone calls would merely be a brief blip on the screen as far as any circumstantial evidence goes.

I keep hoping they find some kind of diary where this is all spelled out from Stacy. I believe she would be the type to write this all down and hide it from Drew. She was brave enough to tell the Pastor and I think before then...she would have wanted a way to "get it off her chest" by telling a diary. They need to go all out to find if such a book or online journal exists because the proof would be there.

My guess on the clothes is this: I think that he washed them to get rid of obvious crime evidence. Then, he could have done one of several things. Scenario #1 (if he were really gutsy) would be to fold them and put them back in her home. When discovered, if they weren't stained, they would simply have been disposed of like the rest of her things. Scenario #2 would be to take them to Salvation Army, Goodwill, or another place to give them away. Scenario #3 would be to simply throw them away along with other items. A bag of clean clothing wouldn't raise eyebrows. There are many other possibilities, but I will bet that they are nowhere to be found now.

 

[cricket]

While I find it sad that Stacy did not have the courage to speak the truth about Kathleen's murder, I think we should all withhold judgment. We don't know what Drew told her. He probably made up some very reasonable story about how he and Kathleen got into a fight and it was an accident. Stacy being very young and having an infant with this man, probably wanted to believe him. Even if DP did make the statement that the pastor alleged - something to the effect of "it's the perfect crime" -- everyone has said Drew deals with stress by joking. I can easily see him the next day backtracking on that comment and explaining it away by saying he was just joking.

With the animosity between KP and DP, I'm sure he has made many "jokes" about wanting her dead. When I was separated from my husband, he made a comment to the effect that it would be cheaper to hire a hit man than to pay me child support. I didn't really think he would hire a hit man - it just went to his animosity towards me for wanting the divorce. My ex equated paying child support with "giving" money to me, as if it didn't go towards the kids. I see that same attitude in Drew and it's sick.

 

[thesleuther]

While I find it sad that Stacy did not have the courage to speak the truth about Kathleen's murder, I think we should all withhold judgment. We don't know what Drew told her. He probably made up some very reasonable story about how he and Kathleen got into a fight and it was an accident. Stacy being very young and having an infant with this man, probably wanted to believe him. Even if DP did make the statement that the pastor alleged - something to the effect of "it's the perfect crime" -- everyone has said Drew deals with stress by joking. I can easily see him the next day backtracking on that comment and explaining it away by saying he was just joking.

With the animosity between KP and DP, I'm sure he has made many "jokes" about wanting her dead. When I was separated from my husband, he made a comment to the effect that it would be cheaper to hire a hit man than to pay me child support. I didn't really think he would hire a hit man - it just went to his animosity towards me for wanting the divorce. My ex equated paying child support with "giving" money to me, as if it didn't go towards the kids. I see that same attitude in Drew and it's sick.

So true, cricket. I believe that the actual explanation was combination accident/we'll be so much better off blah, blah, blah. Undoubtedly, Drew led Stacy to believe that she would also be prosecuted if it ever came out because of her giving Drew an alibi. This is one slick monster and Stacy was a little girl with a difficult past and an infant. There are so many scenarios.

 

[cricket]

So true, cricket. I believe that the actual explanation was combination accident/we'll be so much better off blah, blah, blah. Undoubtedly, Drew led Stacy to believe that she would also be prosecuted if it ever came out because of her giving Drew an alibi. This is one slick monster and Stacy was a little girl with a difficult past and an infant. There are so many scenarios.

You said it well - one slick monster.

 

[DeltaDawn]

I think that the whole problem with Drew was that he used the alibi story to try to control Stacy. He would go to the authorities and spin the tale his way..and she had every reason to believe he would. He was not prepared to lose his control over her and when he did it just was so mind altering to him that he could not keep her under his thumb that he killed her..plotted to kill her for a while. Probably even left little visual and verbal clues to that effect. So I think the firing of the gun in the bedroom was one last warning..and Stacy knew that and that's why in August she started confessing to others her knowledge of Kathleen's murder.

 

[biggirl]

I think that the whole problem with Drew was that he used the alibi story to try to control Stacy. He would go to the authorities and spin the tale his way..and she had every reason to believe he would. He was not prepared to lose his control over her and when he did it just was so mind altering to him that he could not keep her under his thumb that he killed her..plotted to kill her for a while. Probably even left little visual and verbal clues to that effect. So I think the firing of the gun in the bedroom was one last warning..and Stacy knew that and that's why in August she started confessing to others her knowledge of Kathleen's murder.

I agree with you 100% CONTROL is what he values most in his relationships and unfortunately for at least 2 victims, he wore a badge that gave him free reign when it came to his control of those victims.

I hope the police officers that bought into his excuses and alibis are starting to think back on some of his activities and statements and can assist the investigation now.

 

[DeltaDawn]

Poor Kathleen..she was getting out of his life, but he wanted control over the money..he was going to have to pay her more then his first wife for child support and I am sure that really made him very angry. Plus he had left her with tons of debt..so if the house was sold and Kathleen was out of the picture his life would be sweet.

 

[DeltaDawn]

You know I also think that with Drew enough is never enough. He had to have it all..the toys, the trophy wife, the kids under his roof, that anything less was not acceptable to him. Then once he achieved that goal he went for the next..until he was where he wanted to be and the trophy wife was messing up the picture with her knowledge.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

I've been giving a lot of thought to the "Mary" who was Kathleen's friend who lived nearby. From what I can find, Mary who is listed as 61 years old still lives in the neighborhood.

The media has been very quiet about her which makes me wonder why Steve Caserano's account of the discovery has been noted in the media upon finding Kathleen's body in the tub, but not one from Mary????

 

[i.b.nora]

I've been giving a lot of thought to the "Mary" who was Kathleen's friend who lived nearby. From what I can find, Mary who is listed as 61 years old still lives in the neighborhood.

The media has been very quiet about her which makes me wonder why Steve Caserano's account of the discovery has been noted in the media upon finding Kathleen's body in the tub, but not one from Mary????

To my knowledge, Mary's full name has not been disclosed. Although, I too think I might have found who she is, if only by name.
It is curious that no one in the media is writing about her. Either she is deathly afraid to say anything, or she has spoken to law enforcement and is refusing to talk with the media. I have a feeling that she is not good news for Drew or Steve.
Steve was on Nancy Grace tonight and a couple of key things he said were garbled and hard to hear. But, I think he said that Mary lived in the house between Kathleen and Steve. Don't know how that squares with any info you might have found.
Maybe we can check the Nancy Grace transcript when it is posted.

 

[Camper]

To my knowledge, Mary's full name has not been disclosed. Although, I too think I might have found who she is, if only by name.
It is curious that no one in the media is writing about her. Either she is deathly afraid to say anything, or she has spoken to law enforcement and is refusing to talk with the media. I have a feeling that she is not good news for Drew or Steve.
Steve was on Nancy Grace tonight and a couple of key things he said were garbled and hard to hear. But, I think he said that Mary lived in the house between Kathleen and Steve. Don't know how that squares with any info you might have found.
Maybe we can check the Nancy Grace transcript when it is posted.

--->>>Interesting, this is my first encounter with info about 'Mary' a neighbor of Kathleen, hmmm.

Wonder IF IF she might have looked out her window the night that Kathleen 'died' and saw interesting things happening. Anyone know IF IF she might have been called to the GJ?

Also might be interesting to know which side of the house her bedroom is on, would it be the side that would give a good view of Kathleens home?

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[Tom'sGirl]

--->>>Interesting, this is my first encounter with info about 'Mary' a neighbor of Kathleen, hmmm.

Wonder IF IF she might have looked out her window the night that Kathleen 'died' and saw interesting things happening. Anyone know IF IF she might have been called to the GJ?

Also might be interesting to know which side of the house her bedroom is on, would it be the side that would give a good view of Kathleens home?

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Mary was the one who went in with Steve C. and discovered Kathleen's body, Drew followed.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

To my knowledge, Mary's full name has not been disclosed. Although, I too think I might have found who she is, if only by name.

No, her full name has not been released, which is stange in itself. She is the only Mary I find listed as neighbors of Steve C.