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I believe that George deserves sympathy and empathy. Cindy however, I'm still on the fence about.

I don't know what I'd do in their shoes, but I'd like to think that I would stand up for my grandchild, consequences be (insert your favorite word here).
 
  • #123
why is he all alone in the car? where was C and LA??? no support system???

Maybe he needed to be alone. I think he's been terribly sad for a really long time. I hope the whole family gets some serious, intensive therapy. I said in another thread that I thought George and Cindy, when Casey is found guilty and convicted, that they both will not be long for this world. :( Their granddaughter was their sunshine and George even said in his chat with LE that if he lost his granddaughter, he's lost his daughter, too.

If Mallory is really pregnant, maybe that will be the glimmer of hope they need to hold on and not do anything drastic.
 
  • #124
well, he is in his car...maybe someone hollered something not so nice to him....like has happened ever since the tragedy of caylee started...and it just broke him.
 
  • #125
I don't think there's any way KC will be allowed out - even though she is innocent until proven guilty, she is still a PRISONER and the state is allowed to curtail many of her rights, including her "liberty." If she was in jail for theft or fraud they might let her out, but here I'm 99% sure the court will say that her interest in attending her daughter's funeral (if she asked to go) is outweighed by (1) the gravity of the murder charge, and (2) the state interest in her safety (which due to the publicity of the case would put her in danger).

They might make a compromise like allowing her a pastor/family visit for private prayer, but there's no way she's getting out.
 
  • #126
Maybe he was hiding his face from the cameras. or maybe he had just sneezed. Maybe he is scared about being prosecuted. No one knows for sure and cannot assume from this photo. I do tend to feel for George more than the rest..but there was just a 6 month charade that was performed , while Caylee was in a trash bag.

I stick by justice for Caylee.
 
  • #127
I don't think kc should be allowed to attend the funeral, when she threw her child into the woods she had already said her goodbye. I feel so bad for the A's family. Do you honestly think they would want to see their daughter at the funeral? She's the reason that there will be a funeral in the first place.

As I said, completely agree with everyone's reaction to the question. I was just looking for what the legal possibilities were, and if anyone here might know if there's precedence. I know she's guilty as heck, and wouldn't want to see her there either. But I also know that the law affords her the presumption of innocence, and in that lies the crux of my question. So I put my mind towards [for a sec] the hypothetical of her actually being innocent [since she is presumed to be just that] and wondered if there was any way she would be allowed to attend.

I don't think she's a flight risk [jmo] - unless of course all persons charged with murder are simply presumed by the courts to be a flight risk. She didn't try to flee when out before, and realistically I doubt she'd get very far before some member of the public "apprehended" her. ;)

Security risk? Yes, I could see that - mob mentality etc. There are some very angry people out there who want to see justice served, and there are some very crazy ones as well. If you get an angry person who is also a crazy one... well, you get the picture.

Even if she's not permitted to attend [and that's assuming she'd even want to] - I'm still really curious whether or not the possibility or a precedent exists, so if anyone out there knows the legal slant to this - please do chime in.

Thanks for all your input.
 
  • #128
I don't think there's any way KC will be allowed out - even though she is innocent until proven guilty, she is still a PRISONER and the state is allowed to curtail many of her rights, including her "liberty." If she was in jail for theft or fraud they might let her out, but here I'm 99% sure the court will say that her interest in attending her daughter's funeral (if she asked to go) is outweighed by (1) the gravity of the murder charge, and (2) the state interest in her safety (which due to the publicity of the case would put her in danger).

They might make a compromise like allowing her a pastor/family visit for private prayer, but there's no way she's getting out.

Thanks, that makes alot of sense.
 
  • #129
As I said, completely agree with everyone's reaction to the question. I was just looking for what the legal possibilities were, and if anyone here might know if there's precedence. I know she's guilty as heck, and wouldn't want to see her there either. But I also know that the law affords her the presumption of innocence, and in that lies the crux of my question. So I put my mind towards [for a sec] the hypothetical of her actually being innocent [since she is presumed to be just that] and wondered if there was any way she would be allowed to attend.

I don't think she's a flight risk [jmo] - unless of course all persons charged with murder are simply presumed by the courts to be a flight risk. She didn't try to flee when out before, and realistically I doubt she'd get very far before some member of the public "apprehended" her. ;)

Security risk? Yes, I could see that - mob mentality etc. There are some very angry people out there who want to see justice served, and there are some very crazy ones as well. If you get an angry person who is also a crazy one... well, you get the picture.

Even if she's not permitted to attend [and that's assuming she'd even want to] - I'm still really curious whether or not the possibility or a precedent exists, so if anyone out there knows the legal slant to this - please do chime in.

Thanks for all your input.

I am not an expert. I will only relay my personal information that I have had with a situation similar to this.
Family member was in State Prison when my Father died. Family member could come home for funeral but the Family was responsible for airline tickets round trip for 4 armed Marshals/Family member and 2 motel rooms for 2 days and Family member could attend funeral but would have to be handcuffed and shackaled. We agreed to all conditions but Family member refused to attend funeral in handcuffs and shackals, said it would be disrespectful to Daddy.
I guess If KC and JB put up a big ole fuss she could probably go if the judge would let her, but the logistics of her safety could not be guaranteed. I don't think the State would be willing to risk that. Maybe she could watch it on TV, if she felt that strongly about it.
 
  • #130
Anyone notice this on the web about the A's site?

Down for maintenance please check back shortly.
www.helpfindcaylee.com/ - 1k - Cached - Similar pages


However, the site is still there.

I noticed on the 12th that there were zero additional posts there...not even condolences. It was eeeerily quiet on the A front.
 
  • #131
As far as Casey attending the funeral..
I know that OJ attended Nicoles' funeral with Sydney and Justin,but I can't remember what the background was? Was he arrested at the time? Out on bail? Does anyone remember?
 
  • #132
he was out on bail...i believe.
 
  • #133
That picture of George just got me. It's time for them to let this all go and begin to grieve. The time I spent with him, one on one as he shared personal stories and cried, showed me who he really was and now he can let everyone else know as well. Flame away at me but I think he is a very good person lost in a horrible situation. His early tapes with investigators show his true colors too. Honest and desperate.

I agree with you. I feel badly for CA and LA too. I don't believe that they have anything to do with what KC did to little Klee. I think that they may have done some covering up for her after the fact (maybe before realizing that she--meaning KC--was mastermind of this horrible end to Klee). I think by the time it they began to realize KC's "involvement" in all of this..it was too late. They had already gotten so far into their stories of denial and coverup..etc. I really feel for them . They've lost their precious Klee. They've experienced the ultimate betrayal from their daughter/sister AND now they are being judged and scrutinized like they are cold-blooded criminals. This is KC's doing. KC's crime, KC's sin...not theirs. I believe they are victims and should be treated with some kindness and compassion.
 
  • #134
As far as Casey attending the funeral..
I know that OJ attended Nicoles' funeral with Sydney and Justin,but I can't remember what the background was? Was he arrested at the time? Out on bail? Does anyone remember?

The funeral was before the arrest, before the infamous bronco chase.
 
  • #135
As far as Casey making it to the funeral, I cannot wait for Baez to file that motion, I hope it ends up in front of Strickland whom I love for his succinct and quick answers.

Motion denied.

Casey is held without bond. She has no right to be at the funeral, most of the inmate populations has probably missed funerals.
 
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Their lives have gone from zero to 50 in 6 months.
Life as they knew it has forever changed.6 months ago they had Caylee.
Now looks like she is no more.
Flattering casey in jail did irk me, considering that Amy was about to find out about her money being stolen by CMA & it was only a matter of time when she would have to tell her parents where Caylee was. she could not forever say the child was with the Nanny.
She was out of sources too for stealing money from this person and that one.
like I said...
she really was at the end of her crime spree.
And it was a crime spreee it had to end and look how it ended?
 
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MB updated the Caylee My Space page today. Highlights:

* asks people who posted the Mall Sighting pictures to remove them
* "
if in the past you submitted a comment or message request, anything prior to December 19th will be erased. I have over 3500 messages to read and anything prior to yesterday is appreciated but most likely won’t be relevant today."
* no arrangements have yet been made, and they will be posted to helpfindcaylee.com when they are

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=122459029&blogID=457811399

Just me, or does it seem a bit callous to erase all of the previous comments and messages? It is a form of memorial. Even if MB doesn't read them, and only reads those going forwards?

 
  • #140
bumpity bump
 

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