GUILTY Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - *Arrest* #67

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Their defense is that he's an idiot.

That's priceless.

Lol. Something we have been saying for months. I would have loved to have seen his face when they said that!!!
 
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Totally agree. Worst plan ever.

#PatrickFrazee's defense attorney asks: Why did Frazee decide to kill #KelseyBerreth on Thanksgiving Day -- of all days?
"It is the worst plan anybody could come up with," he says.
@csgazette

Jakob Rodgers on Twitter

I agree worst plan ever, but as he said PF is a fool and an idiot.
 
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Please add my vote for 1st Degree Murder.
Me too please, 24 votes.

Count me in for 1st degree too.

I'm wondering if keeping sf out of the courtroom wasn't entirely a strategic move. I mean, he's bound to have called mummy at some point in the last 11 months right? And if mummy wad to expect a coded call from a stranger, wouldn't pf also likely make coded calls to her? So bring her in.

But then in walks john doe, and sf is pretty meaningless, jd kills two birds with one stone.

Ding dong...

Count my vote for murder in the 1st degree and a quick verdict.
I'm here for Kelsey and her beautiful family.

My gut feeling is this just very well may be the case today in closing arguments from the defense.


I'm all in on the guilty in the 1st degree so add my vote to the tally.

I just wish now PF would be getting the DP and quickly.... but since that is not an option, solitary is where that evil one belongs.

I just don’t see any elements of a lesser degree conviction. I am never very confident going into a jury deliberation but I am cautiously optimistic about a 1st degree verdict. There is just so much evidence.

Tally me in on the vote.

I will begrudgingly vote for 1st degree murder , but I want to be on record for Death By Hanging as my write-in vote.


TOTAL=31 Votes for 1st Degree Murder
 
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#PatrickFrazee's defense attorney asks: Why did Frazee decide to kill #KelseyBerreth on Thanksgiving Day -- of all days? "It is the worst plan anybody could come up with," he says.
@csgazette

Elise Schmelzer
@EliseSchmelzer

Patrick "Worst Plan" Frazee -- he really needed Steigerwald a year and a few months ago in those autumnal pastures, to talk him out of that worst plan ever and suggest that divorce and modest child support payments are not, on balance, so bad.

Expecting a quick "Guilty." Bravo to the prosecuting team, and best wishes to the Berreth family, who must be flooded with a rare mix of emotions today.
 
  • #786
The defense said during their opening that KK murdered her in another location. Wonder if they brought that up during closing.
 
  • #787
They probably won’t refute the cell phone data, witness statements, or surveillance footage.

I fully expect them to ignore that stuff. If you can’t win on the facts, you have to try and win on emotion.

Use the hate of KK to manipulate the jury into ignoring the things that actually matter.
That don't wash with me,and I feel nothing but hate for her. Hope the jury is on the same page.
MOO
 
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Too much evidence of planning for it to be second degree.
OOh thank you - I was hoping for that. and the defense closing - honestly, what else could they say?
JMO (I'm still betting 2 hours or less) 2:18 CO time.
 
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Jakob Rodgers
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"If it is your plan to murder someone, you don't tell half the people you know," says #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald. "Patrick Frazee came off like a complete and total fool. That doesnt make him guilty."
@csgazette
#KelseyBerreth

Sam Kraemer
@SamKraemerTV

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Stiegerwald says there’s no image of Frazee or Kenney that supports the prosecution’s case. Also, he says the tote is heavy empty & that Frazee couldn’t move quickly with it if a body was inside.
@KOAA
#KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

So not only did the defense not point the finger at KK, but they are also denying the cleanup.

I’m glad they acknowledge that she’s not the killer, but we already knew that.
 
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Sam Kraemer on Twitter
DA Dan May was given 30 minutes for rebuttal. He says the defense is asking the jury to speculate instead of actually looking at all the facts. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
11:33 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Elise Schmelzer on Twitter
Defense did address suspicious comments witnesses said #PatrickFrazee made about wanting to kill #KelseyBerreth and “no body, no crime.” Attorney said Frazee was an “idiot” but said nobody who planned to actually murder would tell half of town.
11:33 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 51s51 seconds ago
May says Kenney’s plea bargain, whether they like it or not, is built on her telling the truth. He says her story is corroborated by evidence. “She is direct evidence... She is Patrick Frazee’s witness,” May said. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
 
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Elise Schmelzer
@EliseSchmelzer

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Defense did address suspicious comments witnesses said #PatrickFrazee made about wanting to kill #KelseyBerreth and “no body, no crime.” Attorney said Frazee was an “idiot” but said nobody who planned to actually murder would tell half of town.

Kelsey Berreth murder case: Closing arguments begin in Teller County District Court
A line stretched outside the Teller County Courthouse beginning around 6 a.m. Monday in anticipation of closing arguments in the Patrick Frazee murder trial.
denverpost.com
 
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Clayton Sandell
@Clayton_Sandell

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BREAKING: The jury in the #PatrickFrazee trial is now deliberating. His defense attorney concluded by questioning the credibility of Krystal Lee and evidence, saying “This case has been built on a foundation it cannot support. Patrick Frazee is not guilty.” #KelseyBerreth
@ABC

Nikki Battiste
@NikkiBattiste

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BREAKING: The jurors in the #PatrickFrazee murder trial in the death of his fiance, #KelseyBerreth is now beginning their deliberations. They’re considering eight charges, including first degree murder, solicitation to murder and tampering with a deceased body.
@CBSNews
Ok, so 11:15 MST and I predicted a verdict within 2 hours. 1:15 MST. Tick tick...
 
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I posted a link saying they jury was instructed before the closing statements.
Sorry! I skimmed and missed it! This was a short and to-the-point trial.
 
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I don't recall having heard this before, either! Makes me wonder if it is an entirely accurate quote, to be honest.
Yea, Krystal said it in her witness testimony on the stand -

“He told me how hard it was to eat Thanksgiving dinner with my family when the mother of your child is in a tote in the back of your truck,” she recounted Wednesday.

Frazee trial: Kenney testifies, details murder cleanup

Jakob Rodgers
@JakobRodgers

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UPDATE: In closing arguments, #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald, blasts prosecution as having made up a case with an unbelievable witness, Krystal Lee. He says Frazee is a "fool" and "idiot," but he's no murderer of #KelseyBerreth.
@csgazette
Murderer aside, I can't imagine his defense team wasn't thinking omg you stupid idiot and you are a freaking fool the entire trial.

Jakob Rodgers
@JakobRodgers

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"Is there a day of the year where people are less likely to be alone and less likely to be missed, less likely to speak to your family, than Thanksgiving Day?" says #PatrickFrazee's public defender, Adam Steigerwald.

#PatrickFrazee's defense attorney asks: Why did Frazee decide to kill #KelseyBerreth on Thanksgiving Day -- of all days? "It is the worst plan anybody could come up with," he says.
Uh KB had already spoken with her mother, doesn't have any other family in town, and PF's family all hates her. What kind of defense argument is that?
 
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Ironically for the defense, PF’s public defender has recounted all the stupid moves PF made along the way ... it further shows what an idiot his client is! :D And it all leads up nicely to a murder one verdict!

ETA ... I changed my original post using “sadly” and used “ironically” instead, which is more fitting
 
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Sam Kraemer on Twitter
May says Kenney pointed out the burn area and Nash Ranch, and the timeline police built matches her story, while Frazee’s story “doesn’t match it at all.” @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
11:36 AM - 18 Nov 2019

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 2m2 minutes ago
May noted CBI DNA expert Caitlin Rogers say she wasn’t surprised at the absence of Kenney’s DNA from inside Berreth’s townhome, citing her wearing protective clothing and using bleach. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney

Sam Kraemer‏ @SamKraemerTV 41s41 seconds ago
Stiegerwald had drawn attention to the fact that Kenney’s DNA wasn’t found and that Frazee’s was found in small ratios. @KOAA #KelseyBerreth #PatrickFrazee #KrystalKenney
 
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