Kentucky - Judge killed, sheriff arrested in Letcher County courthouse shooting - Sep. 19, 2024 # 3

[sunspun]

This doesn’t make any sense. The safest thing to do is to get the information out into the public as soon as possible. That is how you remove the motivation to murder you.

But it's dangerous if you don't know who are the bad guys and who are the good guys. Because you may end up divulging your valuable info to someone who isn't who he or she seems to be, thereby putting yourself in a very dangerous situation, especially if you happen to be a helpless and vulnerable sitting duck in the local lockup at the moment.

 

[Maat99]

But it's dangerous if you don't know who are the bad guys and who are the good guys. Because you may end up divulging your valuable info to someone who isn't who he or she seems to be, thereby putting yourself in a very dangerous situation, especially if you happen to be a helpless and vulnerable sitting duck in the local lockup at the moment.

Ok but pretty sure if everyone here with no particular information whatsoever is talking about some super top secret info the “bad guys” have also figured it out. Yet Stines lives on.

 

[cenazoic]

I just look at this through a Kentucky lens.

I mean, I’m originally from small-town Louisiana and you’re not saying anything outside my own experience (including “some people need killin” )

I'd bet Mullins who is not a native of Letcher County miscalculated something.

Interesting point; apparently he’s from Pike County, right next door.

 

[tlcya]

Just my opinion

I think the judge knew what was going on in the court house in his chamber.
Possible that information came out in the deposition that the judge knew.

Jmo

what feels off about this is, if Stines was blameless and finds out in a deposition he himself is giving in a civil matter that theJudge did something untoward as well, the answer isn't to go murder said judge and claim someone wants to take your wife and kid. It just makes no sense.

 

[Ontario Mom]

what feels off about this is, if Stines was blameless and finds out in a deposition he himself is giving in a civil matter that theJudge did something untoward as well, the answer isn't to go murder said judge and claim someone wants to take your wife and kid. It just makes no sense.

I agree. Which makes me wonder if what he (Stines) discovered was somehow connected to someone he knows or is close to. Or someone who's made certain types of comments.
Only suggesting this because it all feels so personal, somehow.

jmo

 

[fsngruv]

Imo, Answers given at dispositions can lead to legal action, depending. Sheriff was up to no good and thought the judge was gonna be a good ol boy like him, but the judge had no interest in playing good ol boy and the sheriff shot him. I'm sure the sheriff was under mental distress, brought on by his own actions, no one elses. Mickey was floundering as a sheriff and since he couldn't even keep a single deputy from using the court house for rendezvous with criminals he met through court... No one could say that about the judge, oh well, except someone who was already a victim of fields, and considering fields was far more friendly and personal with the sheriff that the judge, it is hard to believe, since nothing else has come out.

Sure the judge could be corrupt but nothing really substantial has come out, and fingers clearly point to the corrupted parties. Poor judge.

 

[Kemug]

I haven't checked in here for ages, and we still don't know anything!

 

[Ontario Mom]

Imo, Answers given at dispositions can lead to legal action, depending. Sheriff was up to no good and thought the judge was gonna be a good ol boy like him, but the judge had no interest in playing good ol boy and the sheriff shot him. I'm sure the sheriff was under mental distress, brought on by his own actions, no one elses. Mickey was floundering as a sheriff and since he couldn't even keep a single deputy from using the court house for rendezvous with criminals he met through court... No one could say that about the judge, oh well, except someone who was already a victim of fields, and considering fields was far more friendly and personal with the sheriff that the judge, it is hard to believe, since nothing else has come out.

Sure the judge could be corrupt but nothing really substantial has come out, and fingers clearly point to the corrupted parties. Poor judge.

Re: the bolded above. 2 Questions - Is there anything in the media that implies he was floundering or is that just your impression? Also, wasn't Fields the only deputy that got busted for his actions at the courthouse?

 

[fsngruv]

Re: the bolded above. 2 Questions - Is there anything in the media that implies he was floundering or is that just your impression? Also, wasn't Fields the only deputy that got busted for his actions at the courthouse?

Oh yeah, plenty of things, namely what you point out... Deputies using the court house to meet chicks and rape them. Stines was sheriff how in the world did he not know about that?! Is he complicit or a fumbling (floundering) idiot?

ETA: I also looked over the mountain eagle newspaper for the years leading up to the shooting. The sheriff was floundering.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Oh yeah, plenty of things, namely what you point out... Deputies using the court house to meet chicks and rape them. Stines was sheriff how in the world did he not know about that?! Is he complicit or a fumbling (floundering) idiot?

As far as I understood it, there was only 1 deputy involved in that activity.
As for how Stines didn't know it was going on, I suspect Fields engaged in various means to make sure no one knew what he was doing, except him and the women he was abusing. It doesn't automatically mean Stines was either complicit, fumbling or an idiot.

 

[fsngruv]

As far as I understood it, there was only 1 deputy involved in that activity.
As for how Stines didn't know it was going on, I suspect Fields engaged in various means to make sure no one knew what he was doing, except him and the women he was abusing. It doesn't automatically mean Stines was either complicit, fumbling or an idiot.

What makes you think so? Just curious. Seems, to me, if Field was really worried about being secretive I doubt the court house would be a good place.. just me tho. Imo, the confidence Fields had in committing his crimes shows how unbothered he was about getting caught by his boss. Also, the fact that it appears, to me, that fields and mickey have a relationship outside of work doesn't help with me with believing Fields did what he did and no one knew, especially his boss and homie, the sheriff. If the sheriff didn't know the things Fields was doing doesn't make Fields a master mind, it leads me to believe the sheriff knew, was complicit, or was so distracted from his duties that he wasn't performing them. There were also a lot of articles about budget concerns and other things. Like many, I've gotten distracted with the actions of the deputy so I'll see if I can't find some articles that helped me form my opinion. I will say it's completely possible Stine's had no idea what was going on, but that doesn't help my opinion of him. Lol

 

[Ontario Mom]

What makes you think so? Just curious. Seems, to me, if Field was really worried about being secretive I doubt the court house would be a good place.. just me tho. Imo, the confidence Fields had in committing his crimes shows how unbothered he was about getting caught by his boss. Also, the fact that it appears, to me, that fields and mickey have a relationship outside of work doesn't help with me with believing Fields did what he did and no one knew, especially his boss and homie, the sheriff. If the sheriff didn't know the things Fields was doing doesn't make Fields a master mind, it leads me to believe the sheriff knew, was complicit, or was so distracted from his duties that he wasn't performing them. There were also a lot of articles about budget concerns and other things. Like many, I've gotten distracted with the actions of the deputy so I'll see if I can't find some articles that helped me form my opinion. I will say it's completely possible Stine's had no idea what was going on, but that doesn't help my opinion of him. Lol

After whatever investigation there was into Fields, Stines was never charged with anything criminal. Which to me, says there's no evidence he knew what was going on.

 

[fsngruv]

After whatever investigation there was into Fields, Stines was never charged with anything criminal. Which to me, says there's no evidence he knew what was going on.

That makes complete sense. I'm kinda thinking about the same thing when it comes to the judge too, since if he knew something was going on, wouldn't he be charged with something criminal?

Perhaps a case was being built against the sheriff and he just hadn't been indicted yet? Maybe that's what others are suggesting about the judge?

 

[Ontario Mom]

That makes complete sense. I'm kinda thinking about the same thing when it comes to the judge too, since if he knew something was going on, wouldn't he be charged with something criminal?

Perhaps a case was being built against the sheriff and he just hadn't been indicted yet? Maybe that's what others are suggesting about the judge?

I think it's possible we might all be surprised at what comes out in court. Who knew what, who was involved in what, who looked the other way, and that sort of thing.

Not to mention Stines motive for doing what he did. Real or imagined, he obviously felt like shooting Mullins was his only option at that time. Which is just bonkers to me.

 

[tlcya]

As far as I understood it, there was only 1 deputy involved in that activity.
As for how Stines didn't know it was going on, I suspect Fields engaged in various means to make sure no one knew what he was doing, except him and the women he was abusing. It doesn't automatically mean Stines was either complicit, fumbling or an idiot.

I agree, there is no evidence that Stines did or should have known about Fields, er extracurricular bad acts. I do believe he was not as focused on his work during the civil suit. I believe it affected his job performance. I also read some of the Mountain Eagle articles that suggest Mickey was not himself for quite a while leading up to this shooting and his job performance was reflecting that.

 

[sds71]

Kentucky State Police arrested Stines minutes later and their attempts to interview him in the courthouse hallway were filmed on bodycam.

But the troopers didn't have any success as they spent the whole time trying to reassure a paranoid Stines that they weren't going to kill him.

'I leave this building, I won't draw another breath,' he told them while handcuffed, his leg nervously shaking.

Stines was terrified of being transported to the Leslie County Jail, an hour's drive away, and begged to be locked up in the one next door instead…

Stines said he was worried the transport would stop along the way, and someone else would get in the car and kill him.

'Come on, be fair to me now. I seen the look… Y'all come on now, don't kill me. Don't punish me, you know. Let's be fair. Don't shoot me, nothing like that, he said.

Stines eventually settled down, but became more paranoid when the troopers tried to question him about the shooting.

'Y'all are gonna kill me, I know you are. Let's just get it over with. Let's just go,' he said.

Disturbing new bodycam of sheriff's outburst after he shot judge dead

Letcher County Sheriff Shawn 'Mickey' Stines gunned down Judge Kevin Mullins inside the county courthouse in Kentucky on September 19, and was arrested moments later.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[worm]

Kentucky State Police arrested Stines minutes later and their attempts to interview him in the courthouse hallway were filmed on bodycam.

But the troopers didn't have any success as they spent the whole time trying to reassure a paranoid Stines that they weren't going to kill him.

'I leave this building, I won't draw another breath,' he told them while handcuffed, his leg nervously shaking.

Stines was terrified of being transported to the Leslie County Jail, an hour's drive away, and begged to be locked up in the one next door instead…

Stines said he was worried the transport would stop along the way, and someone else would get in the car and kill him.

'Come on, be fair to me now. I seen the look… Y'all come on now, don't kill me. Don't punish me, you know. Let's be fair. Don't shoot me, nothing like that, he said.

Stines eventually settled down, but became more paranoid when the troopers tried to question him about the shooting.

'Y'all are gonna kill me, I know you are. Let's just get it over with. Let's just go,' he said.

Disturbing new bodycam of sheriff's outburst after he shot judge dead

Letcher County Sheriff Shawn 'Mickey' Stines gunned down Judge Kevin Mullins inside the county courthouse in Kentucky on September 19, and was arrested moments later.

www.dailymail.co.uk

He shouldn’t be preaching about “fairness” and “don’t kill me” and I hope that was made clear to him at some point.

 

[OldAce]

Oh yeah, plenty of things, namely what you point out... Deputies using the court house to meet chicks and rape them. Stines was sheriff how in the world did he not know about that?! Is he complicit or a fumbling (floundering) idiot?

ETA: I also looked over the mountain eagle newspaper for the years leading up to the shooting. The sheriff was floundering.

Could you list us a few edition dates, as a year or two back. I toyed with the idea of subscribing digital on an offer. Might do that, get the journalistic truth from right there.

 

[vls12345]

Stines was terrified of being transported to the Leslie County Jail, an hour's drive away, and begged to be locked up in the one next door instead…

RSBM. BBM & underlining by me.

Well, now. That's interesting.

Makes me wonder (since he was Sheriff there) if he had some sort of escape or break-out plan in place, assuming he could get himself put into his own jail.

I don't think he's crazy. He's crazy like a fox. Imo.

 

[Soulmagent]

There will be a trial in a “courtroom”. It’s not just the safest and best place, it’s the ONLY place to have a trial so I’m not sure what you mean about being confined in a cell in an adjacent county.

A courtroom and a cell are not one and the same. Each has its own purpose. To parallel them doesn’t make sense.

The court room ,is not just a place. It is the place and in no way should anyone give up our rights to be held a PUBLIC trial. Sometimes these old skool rights matter.