Kentucky - Judge killed, sheriff arrested in Letcher County courthouse shooting - Sep. 19, 2024 # 3

[Ontario Mom]

I think I understand what you're saying as far as the emotional stress due to maybe a SA "issue". But, what if that "issue" did not happen? Stines own words after the murder said nothing about SA, as reported in the media and even on the bodycam video. The only thing reported was that he thought his family was being taken away or something to that effect (I can't remember exactly what was said). Why would he claim that his family was being taken away as his possible excuse instead of saying that his loved one had been SA'd?
I hope that I'm making sense.
I wish that the video had audio, but I don't think Stines said a word during the murder.
IMO.

Your post makes sense for sure. Whatever his defense is, whatever his motive was, it'll still be really hard for most people (I think?) to justify what we all saw.

jmo

 

[arielilane]

@cathyrusson

KENTUCKY JUDGE KILLING - Ex-sheriff Mickey Stines appeared virtually with his attorneys for a hearing today in front of the newly appointed judge.

WATCH: https://youtu.be/mvxJrzqoq-4?si=J54jwbnjp5K9_eSi

4:45 PM · Jan 17, 2025

 

[scapa]

@cathyrusson

KENTUCKY JUDGE KILLING - Ex-sheriff Mickey Stines appeared virtually with his attorneys for a hearing today in front of the newly appointed judge.

WATCH: https://youtu.be/mvxJrzqoq-4?si=J54jwbnjp5K9_eSi

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4:45 PM · Jan 17, 2025

Thanks.

Gotta admit, when I first saw this photo I had to double-take to make sure there weren't two Stines in the frame..

Any clarity in this case would be something.

 

[rogue ant]

I think I understand what you're saying as far as the emotional stress due to maybe a SA "issue". But, what if that "issue" did not happen?

RSBM

Indeed. Where does this supposed SA issue originate from?

 

[Ontario Mom]

RSBM

Indeed. Where does this supposed SA issue originate from?

Merely a hypothetical possibility to explain a motive, when many have stated they can't think of a single reason to "justify" what Stines did. That's all.

 

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[Soulmagent]

Thanks.

Gotta admit, when I first saw this photo I had to double-take to make sure there weren't two Stines in the frame..

Any clarity in this case would be something.

SO ,
GIVE ME TWO STINES , i NEED 2 STINES SO WE CAN GET TO STEPPIN IN OUR COURT ROOM SHOES..LOL ..

 

[Seattle1]

Stines admitted he violated policy, set ‘horrible’ example - The Mountain Eagle

Former Letcher County Sheriff Shawn “Mickey” Stines acknowledged in a deposition given three days before he fatally shot District Judge Kevin R. Mullins that he had violated his own department’s standards of conduct and set a “horrible” example for his deputies. Several pages of the deposition...

www.themountaineagle.com

Feb 5, 2025

 

[sds71]

A deposition made public in a lawsuit against former Letcher County Sheriff Mickey Stines reportedly includes an admission by Stines that he did not properly train a former deputy who was convicted of sex crimes.

Two women have sued Stines, Eastern Kentucky Correctional Services and former Deputy Ben Fields who pleaded guilty to charges related to coercing the women into having sex in exchange for help with their home incarceration costs.

Fields served six months in jail.

The Mountain Eagle cites a portion of Stines’ deposition for the lawsuit in which he says he handed Fields a department training manual but never actually trained him on the sexual misconduct policy.

The lawsuit is still working its way through the court system.

Deposition Indicates Former Letcher County Sheriff Admitted to Lack of Training for Ex-Deputy | WTCW AM/FM | Real Country | Whitesburg-KY

A deposition made public in a lawsuit against former Letcher County Sheriff Mickey Stines reportedly includes an admission by Stines that he did not properl ...

wtcwam.com

 

[Andieinsyd]

A deposition made public in a lawsuit against former Letcher County Sheriff Mickey Stines reportedly includes an admission by Stines that he did not properly train a former deputy who was convicted of sex crimes.

Two women have sued Stines, Eastern Kentucky Correctional Services and former Deputy Ben Fields who pleaded guilty to charges related to coercing the women into having sex in exchange for help with their home incarceration costs.

Fields served six months in jail.

The Mountain Eagle cites a portion of Stines’ deposition for the lawsuit in which he says he handed Fields a department training manual but never actually trained him on the sexual misconduct policy.

The lawsuit is still working its way through the court system.

Deposition Indicates Former Letcher County Sheriff Admitted to Lack of Training for Ex-Deputy | WTCW AM/FM | Real Country | Whitesburg-KY

A deposition made public in a lawsuit against former Letcher County Sheriff Mickey Stines reportedly includes an admission by Stines that he did not properl ...

wtcwam.com

Hmmm I think that not coercing women in custody into performing sexual favours is kind of common sense.
It does seem that this sexual abuse pattern of behaviour is running parallel to this shooting so feel that it’s feasible to think they link in some way.

 

[Maat99]

Deposition Indicates Former Letcher County Sheriff Admitted to Lack of Training for Ex-Deputy | The Bulldog 103.9 FM | 103.9 The Bulldog | Whitesburg-KY

A deposition made public in a lawsuit against former Letcher County Sheriff Mickey Stines reportedly includes an admission by Stines that he did not properl ...

1039thebulldog.com

2/6/25

The Mountain Eagle cites a portion of Stines’ deposition for the lawsuit in which he says he handed Fields a department training manual but never actually trained him on the sexual misconduct policy.

The lawsuit is still working its way through the court system.

Do we really need to train people so they will know that rape is off limits?

 

[vls12345]

Do we really need to train people so they will know that rape is off limits?

Sadly, yes.

MOO.

 

[Curiousobserver]

Hmmm I think that not coercing women in custody into performing sexual favours is kind of common sense.
It does seem that this sexual abuse pattern of behaviour is running parallel to this shooting so feel that it’s feasible to think they link in some way.

Yes, anyone who needs or learns anything from that training ought not be allowed anywhere near that job.

 

[Jade]

Perhaps despite the manual there was a known need for further cautionary declaration as possibly a recognized general attitude sets a bad example in some way by ignoring, minimizing, joking about, participating in or giving the impression it was acceptable in some way considering the bold setting of the offences.


Edit: Not meaning behavior by the Sheriff but by others who might influence a new guy
all imo

 

[arielilane]

Didnt see this article posted. Nothing — new from January 17, 2025 status hearing.

-- Attorneys prosecuting MS who is accused of gunning down a judge have collected a voluminous amount of evidence that may take six months to review.

-- Defense received this “voluminous” amount of evidence from the prosecutors in the case; and are reviewing it.

-- The state is still discovering additional evidence in the case; and that could possibly take half a year to go through.
Additionally, theres still information coming in and things being tested; perhaps discovery and testing will be complete within the next six months.

-- In addition, MS' attorney indicated he will request to seek bond for MS at a later court date.

Prosecutors have a ‘voluminous’ amount of evidence in case against ex-Kentucky sheriff accused of gunning down judge

Stines, 44, was indicted on one count of murder of a public official after video footage captured him aiming a gun at District Judge Kevin Mullins, 54, inside the jurist’s office on Sept. 19,…

nypost.com

1.17.2025

 

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[Occam's Zebra]

A deposition made public in a lawsuit against former Letcher County Sheriff Mickey Stines reportedly includes an admission by Stines that he did not properly train a former deputy who was convicted of sex crimes.

Two women have sued Stines, Eastern Kentucky Correctional Services and former Deputy Ben Fields who pleaded guilty to charges related to coercing the women into having sex in exchange for help with their home incarceration costs.

Fields served six months in jail.

The Mountain Eagle cites a portion of Stines’ deposition for the lawsuit in which he says he handed Fields a department training manual but never actually trained him on the sexual misconduct policy.

The lawsuit is still working its way through the court system.

Deposition Indicates Former Letcher County Sheriff Admitted to Lack of Training for Ex-Deputy | WTCW AM/FM | Real Country | Whitesburg-KY

A deposition made public in a lawsuit against former Letcher County Sheriff Mickey Stines reportedly includes an admission by Stines that he did not properl ...

wtcwam.com

So officers specifically have to be trained to understand that coercing women into having sex in exchange for financial favors related to their home incarceration is wrong??

 

[Chimera]

So officers specifically have to be trained to understand that coercing women into having sex in exchange for financial favors related to their home incarceration is wrong??

Good point !
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[Ontario Mom]

So officers specifically have to be trained to understand that coercing women into having sex in exchange for financial favors related to their home incarceration is wrong??

The way I read it, officers are supposed to be trained in exactly what constitutes sexual misconduct - not just handed a manual, as apparently Stines said he did in his depo. I think that was Stines' regretting that he didn't do all that he was supposed to do as Fields' superior.

jmo