Kentucky - Judge killed, sheriff arrested in Letcher County courthouse shooting - Sep. 19, 2024 # 3

Well, an insanity defense goes against everything the defense initially signaled sincethey said there was a "reason". Imo.

I think this is pavement to get into court and then express the (extreme emotional distress) he was experiencing. When asked to elaborate on that, then we will hear what had/was happening with the judge. We may still find out <modsnip - political>. JMO
 
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so after hearing for months about Stines alleged extreme emotional disturbance defense is now going with a straight forward insanity defense.

1. Elements of Extreme Emotional Distress. The defendant must prove by a preponderance of the evidence that (a) the emotional disturbance is not a mental disease or defect equivalent to insanity, (b) the defendant experienced a particularly overwhelming situation, and (c) the defendant had an extreme emotional reaction to it, resulting in a loss of self-control, which was overcome by powerful emotions, such as passion, anger, or fear. See State v. Elliott, 177 Conn. 1, 411 A.2d 3 (1979).
Tanaka Criminal Law Casebook : Notes & Questions (Extreme Emotional Distress) | H2O

The insanity defense refers to a defense that a defendant can plead in a criminal trial . In an insanity defense, the defendant admits the action but asserts a lack of culpability based on mental illness.
insanity defense

I am wondering what caused this shift.

“It was not something that was planned and occurred in the heat of passion,” defense attorney Jeremy Bartley tells PEOPLE. “For us, the highest level of culpability should be manslaughter based on the partial defense of extreme emotional disturbance.”
Lawyer for Sheriff Who Killed Judge Says It Wasn't Planned, Will Use 'Extreme Emotional Disturbance' Defense

Jeremy Bartley, Stines' attorney, argued that Stines was experiencing an "extreme emotional disturbance" and claimed not enough evidence was presented to substantiate the murder charge.
New details about ex-sheriff's motive for killing judge: 'Heat of passion'

I suspect it is because Mickey will have a hard time getting a jury to understand and agree with whatever it is that allegedly created his extreme emotional disturbance and that a reasonable person might feel similarly under those same circumstances.

Finally, the court disagreed with Ms. White's petition on the question of the point of view by which the circumstances of the crime must be considered for this defense. Ms. White argued that her subjective point of view was most important in answering the question of whether she was under extreme emotional distress. The court disagreed and made clear that a “reasonable person under the existing circumstances” is the proper standard. For this portion of the opinion, the state supreme court agreed with the appeals court.
Appropriate Use of a Defense of Extreme Emotional Distress

I found this article interesting. Different states view EED and what constitutes it very differently. It contains a chart outlining in what ways each state views this defense.

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I guess Stines & his defense team are starting to realize that murdering a judge, including a final "kill" shot, on camera is going to be hard to overcome, especially since the judge did not appear to be aggressive, angry, or even really defending himself in any way (other than trying to duck & hide).

Stines should be convicted on 1st degree murder charges & never be let out of prison. He's a potential danger to everyone.

MOO.
 
In KY, the standard for the "Insanity Defense" is codified in KRS 505.020, and reads -- "A person is not responsible for criminal conduct if at the time of such conduct, as a result of mental illness or intellectual disability, he lacks substantial capacity either to appreciate the criminality of his conduct or to conform his conduct to the requirements of law."

"Incompetency is different from insanity." See the link below for further discussion and clarification...

 
bbm
Anyone watch this last night about Kentucky sheriff story? Interesting about the "We may now know" or is it for views, clicks? moo 😗

@BrianEntin


At 10pm on @NewsNation -- Kohberger developments.But also scoop on the Kentucky sheriff who killed the judge. Everyone seems to have moved on from that story. We've been digging - major sex scandal and corruption in the town. Why would a sheriff kill a judge? We may now know.


9:11 PM · Mar 5, 2025


Found this on NN's site, which isn't anything new.


Defense attorney Jeremy Bartley appeared on NewsNation’s “Banfield” on Wednesday and said from the beginning, he has considered legal strategies for his client ranging from “classic EED,” or extreme emotional distress, to an insanity defense that would remove criminal responsibility.

Bartley said Stines’ alleged actions hinge on testimony he offered at a deposition earlier in the week of the shooting, in which the sheriff was asked questions about a deputy’s sexual coercion of jail inmates. A former inmate who said she was victimized claimed the misconduct was wider in scope, and Bartley said Stines was afraid that he or his family could be targeted by parties involved in that civil case.




3/5/2025
 
I find the civil case victim less than credible about what she claims she saw a video of. Had Fields possessed video evidence of the victim in this case engaged in criminal behavior, he would surely have used that evidence to procure a more favorable outcome in his criminal trial for SA. MOO

And the Lechter county sheriff being concerned that someone would murder his family over his testimony in a civil action is ridiculous to me. Average citizen joe blow, maybe I could see it. But Stines was the top LEO in the county. He had the means to protect his family more so than joe blow would. He had the knowledge and authority to DO something about any maleficence he was aware of through legal means.

I'm not buying what is being sold here. And it is very frustrating to watch a case where a victim, executed on video no less, in his own chambers, by the top LEO in the county in such a calm and calculated manner, can be from day one so maligned with zero evidence produced to back up that insinuation.
 
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@BrianEntin


Why did a Kentucky sheriff kill the town judge right in the judge's chambers?More details are coming to the surface about a twisted sex scandal in the small town involving high level law enforcement.



one thing that is very noticeable is that even as the attorney is suggesting that Stines feared for the safety of his family because of his testimony in the civil case, he is extremely careful not to name Mullins as one of the alleged "other people" that didn't want "information" to be made public. He slyly insinuates it but doesn't come out and say it.

I find that very telling. Insinuating is one thing. But alleging is another IMO. MOO, this attorney is walking back his earlier EED defense because there is zero evidence that Mickey's alleged fear for his family was legitimate or based in reality. He is now being touted by his attorney as not responsible due to legal insanity ie. didn't know what he was doing was wrong or didn't understand he was committing a crime.

clinical insanity is described as: mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy from reality, cannot conduct her/his affairs due to psychosis, or is subject to uncontrollable impulsive behavior.

So until someone brings some sort of factual evidence to the table that Mullins was in any way a threat I will continue to believe that Stines must be clinically insane and not just legally insane to have done what he did.
 
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bbm
Anyone watch this last night about Kentucky sheriff story? Interesting about the "We may now know" or is it for views, clicks? moo 😗

@BrianEntin


At 10pm on @NewsNation -- Kohberger developments.But also scoop on the Kentucky sheriff who killed the judge. Everyone seems to have moved on from that story. We've been digging - major sex scandal and corruption in the town. Why would a sheriff kill a judge? We may now know.


9:11 PM · Mar 5, 2025


Found this on NN's site, which isn't anything new.


Defense attorney Jeremy Bartley appeared on NewsNation’s “Banfield” on Wednesday and said from the beginning, he has considered legal strategies for his client ranging from “classic EED,” or extreme emotional distress, to an insanity defense that would remove criminal responsibility.

Bartley said Stines’ alleged actions hinge on testimony he offered at a deposition earlier in the week of the shooting, in which the sheriff was asked questions about a deputy’s sexual coercion of jail inmates. A former inmate who said she was victimized claimed the misconduct was wider in scope, and Bartley said Stines was afraid that he or his family could be targeted by parties involved in that civil case.




3/5/2025
All emphasis mine.
Hmm.

Re. the purple bolded : "..remove criminal responsibility..." ? Fat chance of that happening.
A man (innocent or not ?) is dead, murdered by Stines.
Going to be difficult to slither out of that !
Mullins deserved his day in court, as do we all.

Young people and adults alike look up to people like Stines (judges, sheriffs, attorneys, etc.), they are supposed to set an example.
What kind of example has Stines set ?
That you can take someone's life if you feel that person could make trouble for you ?

Re. the red bolded: As long as Stines didn't participate or help to cover up someone else's involvement, I doubt his family was in danger.
This makes me wonder if Stines or someone close to him had done something he didn't want known--& he wanted erased, something not having to do with the civil case ??
Imo.
Omo.
 
The world viewed Stines assassinate the unarmed victim in his chambers -- and when he saw the victim still moving, Stines reached beneath the desk and shot him again, to make sure he was dead. IMO, that's the premeditated act of a man making certain Mullins dead.

From day one, Stines defense team has been trying to mitigate his actions to save their client from a life sentence-- beginning with claiming extreme emotional disturbance for a finding of manslaughter (and not first-degree murder). Under the circumstances, it should be of no surprise the defense is doubling down with an insanity defense!

What we know for certain is the sexual scandal was already old news when Stines shot Mullins. Both the federal civil lawsuit and criminal charges were already two years old at the time of the shooting. In-fact, former deputy Fields had already been indicted, charged, convicted, and served his time by the date of Stines deposition which had been delayed numerous times for the convenience of the plaintiff who had been incarcerated for an unrelated matter.

Pursuant to KY Rev Stat § 507.020 - MURDER -- be reminded that extreme emotional disturbance (EED) is the exception to murder:

(1)A person is guilty of murder when:

(a) With intent to cause the death of another person, he causes the death of such person or of a third person; except that in any prosecution a person shall not be guilty under this subsection if he acted under the influence of extreme emotional disturbance for which there was a reasonable explanation or excuse, the reasonableness of which is to be determined from the viewpoint of a person in the defendant's situation under the circumstances as the defendant believed them to be. However, nothing contained in this section shall constitute a defense to a prosecution for or preclude a conviction of manslaughter in the first degree or any other crime;

 
The world viewed Stines assassinate the unarmed victim in his chambers -- and when he saw the victim still moving, Stines reached beneath the desk and shot him again, to make sure he was dead. IMO, that's the premeditated act of a man making certain Mullins dead.

From day one, Stines defense team has been trying to mitigate his actions to save their client from a life sentence-- beginning with claiming extreme emotional disturbance for a finding of manslaughter (and not first-degree murder). Under the circumstances, it should be of no surprise the defense is doubling down with an insanity defense!

What we know for certain is the sexual scandal was already old news when Stines shot Mullins. Both the federal civil lawsuit and criminal charges were already two years old at the time of the shooting. In-fact, former deputy Fields had already been indicted, charged, convicted, and served his time by the date of Stines deposition which had been delayed numerous times for the convenience of the plaintiff who had been incarcerated for an unrelated matter.

Pursuant to KY Rev Stat § 507.020 - MURDER -- be reminded that extreme emotional disturbance (EED) is the exception to murder:

(1)A person is guilty of murder when:

(a) With intent to cause the death of another person, he causes the death of such person or of a third person; except that in any prosecution a person shall not be guilty under this subsection if he acted under the influence of extreme emotional disturbance for which there was a reasonable explanation or excuse, the reasonableness of which is to be determined from the viewpoint of a person in the defendant's situation under the circumstances as the defendant believed them to be. However, nothing contained in this section shall constitute a defense to a prosecution for or preclude a conviction of manslaughter in the first degree or any other crime;

Why do you think Stines shot the Judge?
 

3/7/25

Bartley said Stines feared that backlash from his deposition testimony caused him to fear that his or his family's lives were in danger.

The attorney said Stines' 'mental health' was affected by the perceived threat.

'Ultimately, he was in fear for the safety of his wife and his daughter, and I think what you see there is the result of that,' the defense attorney said.
I think this guy was up to much worse than what was in his deposition and that is what he was/is worried about. This is 100% about his own skin, JMO
 
The world viewed Stines assassinate the unarmed victim in his chambers -- and when he saw the victim still moving, Stines reached beneath the desk and shot him again, to make sure he was dead. IMO, that's the premeditated act of a man making certain Mullins dead.

From day one, Stines defense team has been trying to mitigate his actions to save their client from a life sentence-- beginning with claiming extreme emotional disturbance for a finding of manslaughter (and not first-degree murder). Under the circumstances, it should be of no surprise the defense is doubling down with an insanity defense!

What we know for certain is the sexual scandal was already old news when Stines shot Mullins. Both the federal civil lawsuit and criminal charges were already two years old at the time of the shooting. In-fact, former deputy Fields had already been indicted, charged, convicted, and served his time by the date of Stines deposition which had been delayed numerous times for the convenience of the plaintiff who had been incarcerated for an unrelated matter.

Pursuant to KY Rev Stat § 507.020 - MURDER -- be reminded that extreme emotional disturbance (EED) is the exception to murder:

(1)A person is guilty of murder when:

(a) With intent to cause the death of another person, he causes the death of such person or of a third person; except that in any prosecution a person shall not be guilty under this subsection if he acted under the influence of extreme emotional disturbance for which there was a reasonable explanation or excuse, the reasonableness of which is to be determined from the viewpoint of a person in the defendant's situation under the circumstances as the defendant believed them to be. However, nothing contained in this section shall constitute a defense to a prosecution for or preclude a conviction of manslaughter in the first degree or any other crime;

I can't handle the video of the murder, it is brutal. And yeah, Stines made sure as the poor judge cowered in terror. A cold blooded execution, no excuses. Jmo.
 
I think this guy was up to much worse than what was in his deposition and that is what he was/is worried about. This is 100% about his own skin, JMO
Agree in that I also think it's possible this brutal crime could have been all about Stines protecting himself, as opposed to Stines enacting revenge or having any real fear for his family's safety. Jmo
 
Logic says, if you're going to murder someone to protect yourself, you don't do it on camera where literally everyone can clearly see you're the one who did it.

I've thought about the possibility of whatever he was protecting himself from (or from becoming public, or known to his family?), was a million times worse than outing himself as a cold blooded killer but that doesn't seem very realistic to me.

Whatever his reason was, whether it was real or imagined, I don't think it had anything to do with protecting himself.

jmo
 

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