KOIN 08.13.2010; interview with gj witness who met Terri the day Kyron disappeared

[angelainwi]

With it being confirmed that she had her baby in her arms, I am firmly on the fence. So far everything is totally checking out to be true. JMO

 

[BringKyronHome]

Thank you for the viewpoints I have read thus far.

I find this encounter to support Terri's story. The Gym worker says she had already been told the baby was sick the day before. A proud stepmom who had just come back from seeing her stepson's project would show it to someone, likely. At least I would.

Terri was chatty. Well, a stay at home mom needs interaction with adults, especially if she was not getting much interaction from the other adult at home (Kaine is a lovely, caring, grieving father. It is possible he's just not the type to get very involved in her day).

She was seen with her baby and seemed normal. I don't see why showing the picture was suspicious. I don't see why taking her time was suspicious.. if she had a plan to carry out, she'd not take time to chat IMO. Especially if Kyron, dear heart, was in the truck.

I would be very worried if I had a stop and chat and it was considered incriminating. But I understand that if taken into context with other information... whether released by LE or just media or family... it could be considered so.

I agree with this also.

Can we also take from this that DeeDee couldn't have been in the truck (possibly watching Ky) at that time too?

Andrea said that she was at borders before 10, so she saw Terri before 10...that she thinks it was 9:30-10...

DeeDee was last accounted for at her job at 9:45 right?

How far is it from this FMs to where DeeDee was that day?

 

[Annazed]

I don't think she had baby K with her. My theory is that the DA asked her not to divulge that info. She probably made that clear to the reporter, too. Otherwise, it would have been a logical question to ask. I think baby K was out in the far reaches of the parking lot, in the truck with DDS and Kyron.

In which case, what a colossal absurd blunder to be wandering around the store without the baby if that was intended to be you alibi.

 

[angelainwi]

I am so glad you caught this, this was the one thing bothering me all night while trying to fall asleep.

OK, just watched the interview AGAIN LIVE on KOIN..

Had the DBF watch it too..

She clearly says the only thing odd about it.... (didn't get exact words here-talking about
how TH approached her in FM -paraphrasing here)

BUT she DID say:

She was standing there with her daughter, sick in her arms..


I"M NOT CRAZY lol =)

 

[wondering1]

In which case, what a colossal absurd blunder to be wandering around the store without the baby if that was intended to be you alibi.

according to AL, she did have the baby with her. It's not in the interview, but Freefallzzz saw it on the local news and confirmed it.

 

[freefallzzzz]

I am so glad you caught this, this was the one thing bothering me all night while trying to fall asleep.

Me too! From about 5:40 pm to 11:00 pm I was seriously questioning myself!!

I put an email into the news station asking if they can add to the video and/or include that tidbit in their online article..
We will see =)

 

[pittsburghgirl]

If these movements and encounters were calculated to provide an alibi, then they don't mean anything. TH could have said (or someone reminded her): "If you are driving around with the baby, you can't leave her in the car." Many criminals have constructed elaborate alibis, only to have LE notice the one thing that's amiss or LE to figure out that there's a conspiracy involved which renders the physical whereabouts of the main suspect moot. The whole POINT of the conspiracy is to commit the crime while making the perpetrator bullet-proof, in terms of alibi.

On the other hand, if TH is innocent of involvement in Kyron's disappearance, then of course these points check out. In the end, it will come down to whether DS or some other individual tells what they know.

 

[freefallzzzz]

KOIN rocks for their fast response!! =)

Article edited and may be edited to include more (maybe video was not sure from their response)

yay!

snip - Last Update: 10:48 am

"I think the thing that seems odd about it perhaps is that we were just passing each other by and in a few seconds, with her daughter being sick in her arms, made a point to show me the picture."

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/n...er-encounter-with/ZRn4GrYpt0a0BAxulU8rEA.cspx

 

[kimmera]

Something that I picked up on. The woman who was interviewed made it very clear that she was not a friend of Terri's and only knew her from the gym, and that Terri was normally a very quiet person...yet was more talkative at FM than she'd ever seen her.

So Terri calls out to her from across the store, comes over to her, discusses the science fair, shows her a photo of Kyron who she'd only seen once or twice at the gym. Just totally weird. And this person isn't even a friend. And Terri took time away from dealing with a sick baby to do this. It almost sounds like she was at FM hoping to run into someone she knew so that she could establish an alibi.

It'd be like me at Kroger, running up to the teller from my bank who just happens to be there too, talking about my kid who she barely knows, and then me digging my phone out of my purse to show her a photo of my kid who she's only seen once or twice. All while I have a sick baby with me. Makes no sense.

BBM~
I agree with all you have said here, but especially the bolded part. I have wondered if TH specifically went to FM as opposed to WM, Walgreen's etc was because she thought she would see people that she knew there (such as her FB friend that worked at one of those FM's) just to help establish an alibi. I also think that this witness did make a point of saying that they were not 'friendly', and she didn't see TH as being particularly 'social' but then on this day she WAS. :waitasec: :twocents:JMO.

 

[Codger]

freefallzzzz -
Thanks, I did catch what you meant, I believes ya, but was hoping they had updated, no luck so I passed out. TYVM for maps and all you do. Map of 2 FM - by adding the school it rather makes a triangle. From the interview, the wording was odd when TH referenced, popping out to get meds, and it did sound as though she was going back, supposedly she was to pick up the project after the SF. From 2nd FM she could cross traffic and it's a straight shot up to the school if I'm seeing it right? She could have been back there by 10 am correct? just noodling here.

I think some confusion on this thread is the written article does NO justice for the taped interview, and seems to contradict, unless one listens to AL's actual words. There was so much more in the video.

Most of the time there are bits of truth in lies, imo.
This witness verifies a point in her timeline, doesn't necessarily point to her innocence or guilt, just a bit of info. that is actually verified.
always jmo

 

[BringKyronHome]

KOIN rocks for their fast response!! =)

Article edited and may be edited to include more (maybe video was not sure from their response)

yay!

snip - Last Update: 10:48 am

"I think the thing that seems odd about it perhaps is that we were just passing each other by and in a few seconds, with her daughter being sick in her arms, made a point to show me the picture."

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/n...er-encounter-with/ZRn4GrYpt0a0BAxulU8rEA.cspx

and herein lies the need for a new lens...maybe...

it was a 'hit'...if Terri is involved???

 

[Codger]

KOIN rocks for their fast response!! =)

Article edited and may be edited to include more (maybe video was not sure from their response)

yay!

snip - Last Update: 10:48 am

"I think the thing that seems odd about it perhaps is that we were just passing each other by and in a few seconds, with her daughter being sick in her arms, made a point to show me the picture."

http://www.koinlocal6.com/content/n...er-encounter-with/ZRn4GrYpt0a0BAxulU8rEA.cspx

You rock! :woohoo: They'll have your check in the mail asap. Best they have 2 reliable witnesses to the post office.

Thanks!

 

[nursebeeme]

Oh yeah.

I'm not looking for Terri to prove she WASN'T involved. I'm looking for LE to prove that she WAS.

That's how it works.

I think they (LE) are doing just that. moo.

 

[shorty42404]

So should I add this to the interview or is there anything else that needs to be added? I'm a nerd, I lerve typing

 

[YellowSubmarine]

BBM~
I agree with all you have said here, but especially the bolded part. I have wondered if TH specifically went to FM as opposed to WM, Walgreen's etc was because she thought she would see people that she knew there (such as her FB friend that worked at one of those FM's) just to help establish an alibi. I also think that this witness did make a point of saying that they were not 'friendly', and she didn't see TH as being particularly 'social' but then on this day she WAS. :waitasec: :twocents:JMO.

The moment I saw her email where she stated she had a receipt proving she was "checking out at FM 7 miles away at 9:12" -- it screamed alibi making. The wording was odd. The statement itself was odd. Nobody casually talks like that to a friend. Not to mention it seems impossible for her to have been checking out at 9:12, according to her timeline.

I guarantee the first FM had whatever otc med she was looking for - or at least something similar enough - so her going to the second one is hinky. And, of course her whole encounter with AL makes it even moreso.

 

[21merc7]

^^^^ Actually Yellow, I would check my receipt if my child went missing. I would want to know where I was and how I messed up. Regardless of LE questioning. The emails are partial bits, we do not have all, only enough to keep the local news and tabloids sensationalizing and getting internet hits, and dollars from news paper boxes. All a bunch of speculation and dramatization.

 

[nursebeeme]

The moment I saw her email where she stated she had a receipt proving she was "checking out at FM 7 miles away at 9:12" -- it screamed alibi making. The wording was odd. The statement itself was odd. Nobody casually talks like that to a friend. Not to mention it seems impossible for her to have been checking out at 9:12, according to her timeline.

I guarantee the first FM had whatever otc med she was looking for - or at least something similar enough - so her going to the second one is hinky. And, of course her whole encounter with AL makes it even moreso.

I am of the same opinion as you yellow. Completely.

 

[Emeralgem]

Sorry. I was admittedly on the fence, but ready to hop down on *your* side, simply awaiting evidence that would show me they could convict her.

More and more, I'm seeing just the opposite.

IMO Kyron is dead. Even if it was Terri, I don't believe he'd still be alive.

Her story is being proven to be true.

That leaves a stranger abduction. By that I mean 'not family', not that Kyron hadn't been somehow peripherally acquainted with this person. Which, IMO, would be a pedophile.

I suppose you could be right; it could be someone who hated and wanted to hurt one of the parents for some reason, rather than a predator.

At this point, if Terri IS involved, it's that she brought someone into their lives who harmed Kyron.

I do not think she was directly involved, nor do I think she orchestrated any harm to Kyron.

I could be wrong, of course. I may find in the coming days or weeks that I've changed my mind---again. But as of now, while I'm still on the fence, one foot has been firmly planted on the "terri is innocent" side.

So she was at the store and there is a witness who says she spoke to her.
Doesn't mean Kyron wasn't stashed in that truck parked back in the North 40 at the time she was in the store. Just because she has an alibi for the store that doesn't mean she didn't give him some kind of drug and she was just biding her time waiting for him to be rendered helpless or waiting for him to expire...
There is still more than an hour and a half unaccounted for since I don't believe she was riding around on rural roads just to soothe baby K's earache before she made the decision to take herself and her daughter to the gym...JMHOOTS

 

[human]

I've got a foot planted right next to yours, Calliope, and for the same reasons.

I was fairly sure that Terri's alibi was going to be proven to be false in large part. To see it be proven, piece by piece, that she was telling the truth, is very revealing on several levels, and bringing more peripheral stuff into question.

What in God's name happened to Kyron, and who in God's name did it to him?

I am very curious about this as it was said that her bank records did not match her purchases and her cell phone pings didn't match her story.

LE has known about these witnesses that saw her from practically day 1.

This info is being leaked now. Why is that?

I wonder if LE is talking about June 3 with issues of her story not matching things.

And of course, they are wondering if a second of third person is involved as well.

 

[wondering1]

BBM~
I agree with all you have said here, but especially the bolded part. I have wondered if TH specifically went to FM as opposed to WM, Walgreen's etc was because she thought she would see people that she knew there (such as her FB friend that worked at one of those FM's) just to help establish an alibi. I also think that this witness did make a point of saying that they were not 'friendly', and she didn't see TH as being particularly 'social' but then on this day she WAS. :waitasec: :twocents:JMO.

excellent point. I didn't put that two and two together, so I thought it was very unlikely that she expected to run into AL or some other random at the store to set up an alibi. Now, with your point, I still think that running into AL was a fluke. But that, if TH is involved and was creating an alibi, she went to those particular stores b/c she knew certain employees there and when they were likely to be working. I wonder if most days she did her shopping during that time frame.

Thank you!!!