Kristian S Horman was arrested

[human]

I can't see someone putting down an authority to pickup a child, when the person lives a good distance away to pick-up the child from school (at a moments notice with a tummy ache or injury). Doesn't seem practical especially since Mom was a stay-at-home Mom. It could explain an a unique / isolated incidence if that were the case, and if he were on the form & it counted as "legal" custody so as not to count as an abduction, I would agree.

I know on our releases at school, we have 2 different authorizations.

1. To call in an emergency-locals only.

2. Authorized to pick up. They can be from the moon if the parents wish.

The emergency contact has to be authorized to pick up as well.

I find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe with the uncle looking at those charges ,that he would be on the family's authorized to pick-up list.

 

[CountryGirl]

I would be very surprised if the uncle had anything to do with Kyron's disappearance. From the way I read the court documents, he was convicted in April and sentenced yesterday and incarcerated. The only connection is he is a relative, IMO.

I just wish more than anything that Kyron would be found safe but I don't have much hope left.

 

[Soulmagent]

No force.



The phrase statutory rape is a term used in some legal jurisdictions to describe sexual activities where one participant is below the age required to legally consent to the behavior.[1] Although it usually refers to adults engaging in sex with minors under the age of consent,[1] the age at which individuals are considered competent to give consent to sexual conduct, it is a generic term, and very few jurisdictions use the actual term "statutory rape" in the language of statutes.[2] Different jurisdictions use many different statutory terms for the crime, such as "sexual assault," "rape of a child," "corruption of a minor," "carnal knowledge of a minor," "unlawful carnal knowledge", or simply "carnal knowledge." Statutory rape differs from forcible rape in that overt force or threat need not be present. The laws presume coercion, because a minor or mentally challenged adult is legally incapable of giving consent to the act.

The term statutory rape generally refers to sex between an adult and a sexually mature minor past the age of puberty. Sexual relations with a prepubescent child, generically called "child molestation," is typically treated as a more serious crime.
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[human]

Hello SoCalSleuth,

Nice to see you this eve... Thanks for hopping in...

You wrote:
>>If Kyron was supposed to be a witness in this case (although doubtful because of the stipulated facts), they would have postponed the trial when he went missing.<<

But but but... What if Kyron was not to be a witness. What if Kyron knew something that he had never spoken before to anyone (but the perp knew)... What if "someday" when Kyron learned about someone in the family being jailed for something THEN he spoke up and said, "Oh, so that is why I haven't seen Uncle X for a long time, you never told me. Do you know what he did to me when I was little?" We DO NOT know that ANYONE ever violated Kyron prior to his disappearance, and if someone did that is not necessarily known.

The point would be...quieting a witness before they could ever say, "Guess what they did to me" someday.

This is all MERELY conjecture, of course.

This case has been going on for quite awhile-over a year.

I would think if the missing child had something to say, it would have been before June4.

 

[BeanE]

It is possible that the uncle had something happen to him that did not happen to the other children in the family.

Perhaps a "special" relationship with a neighbor or a coach or who knows what, that did not happen to other children in the family.

Or it could have happened to the other children as well. Who knows.

I am talking about the uncle, his brother ( the father of the missing child) and any other children in the family, if there are any.

But we're not talking about anyone else in Kyron's family, okay? Please see all the other previous posts by mods about this in this thread.

Thanks,
BeanE
Mod

 

[Wendy101]

OK I have been trying my best to get this straight...

At the time of the incident he was 19 and she was 14-15??

 

[raeann]

I know on our releases at school, we have 2 different authorizations.

1. To call in an emergency-locals only.

2. Authorized to pick up. They can be from the moon if the parents wish.

The emergency contact has to be authorized to pick up as well.

I find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe with the uncle looking at those charges ,that he would be on the family's authorized to pick-up list.

I would hope not too, but sometimes brothers will only believe the best about each other. It doesn't matter who was on the list I guess, no one checked him out anyway.

jmo

 

[raeann]

OK I have been trying my best to get this straight...

At the time of the incident he was 19 and she was 14-15??

It was one year ago, he would have been 31, the charges are from Jan.09.

 

[LotsaLatte]

I know on our releases at school, we have 2 different authorizations.

1. To call in an emergency-locals only.

2. Authorized to pick up. They can be from the moon if the parents wish.

The emergency contact has to be authorized to pick up as well.

I find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe with the uncle looking at those charges ,that he would be on the family's authorized to pick-up list.

Our schools have one form only. I have no local family at all. I have to put people that are in a different state for emergency numbers. Basically, the school has my permission to authorize medical treatment and my children's doctor is local. It's kind of scarey but I am near the schools that my children attend 99.9% of the time, thank goodness.

 

[gwenabob]

I would be very surprised if the uncle had anything to do with Kyron's disappearance. From the way I read the court documents, he was convicted in April and sentenced yesterday and incarcerated. The only connection is he is a relative, IMO.

I just wish more than anything that Kyron would be found safe but I don't have much hope left.

No, he was convicted 6-16-10 at the stipulated trial.

 

[Emma Peel]

He could also have additional issues. Of the Tiger Woods variety. No excuses though. But ... could his problem could be of that type?

 

[pufnstuf]

OK I have been trying my best to get this straight...

At the time of the incident he was 19 and she was 14-15??

My guess... he was 30, and she was 14 or 15.

 

[pufnstuf]

No, he was convicted 6-16-10 at the stipulated trial.

And not sentenced yet, but remanded to custody for sentencing, I believe.

 

[gwenabob]

OK I have been trying my best to get this straight...

At the time of the incident he was 19 and she was 14-15??

No. He is 32 now and he was first charged 1/23/09. The docket says he was convicted of 3rd degree child molestation. To me, that says the victim was pre-puberty. If anyone has any facts or sure knowledge that it was a teenager, please let us know. We might be making assumptions that are not true.

 

[human]

But we're not talking about anyone else in Kyron's family, okay? Please see all the other previous posts by mods about this in this thread.

Thanks,
BeanE
Mod

I was just responding to the remark that it could be a family thing. I am pointing out that it doesn't need to mean that.

 

[winterrose]

And not sentenced yet, but remanded to custody for sentencing, I believe.

Since no sentencing,but held with no bond,could it be he's suspected of knowing something in Kyron's case?This gave them the excuse to hold him,maybe.Like give us what you know and we'll give you a better sentence.

 

[pufnstuf]

He could also have additional issues. Of the Tiger Woods variety. No excuses though. But ... could his problem could be of that type?

There is a RSO who lives about five miles from me--an auto-mechanic. Convicted of molesting a girl who was 12 at his daughter's spend-the-night party. Did prison time, was divorced while in jail from a tiny little woman who looked 15 years younger than her actual age, and then he got out of jail and married another woman who is very tiny, petite, would pass for 15 or 16.

In his house now? A girl who looks to be about ten years old. Just grosses me out. I see this little girl all the time, roaming the streets of town, and I worry so much about her.

Don't know how that fit with your question, but just felt the need to post it.

 

[Kimster]

This thread is going to close in about 5 minutes. This is due to some posts being removed that involved the family after the rules were laid out quite a few times. This is causing us to do a lot of moderating.

The good news is that we'll open it for you again in the morning. So, wrap up your thoughts in the next few minutes and the rest can be posted tomorrow.

 

[pufnstuf]

Since no sentencing,but held with no bond,could it be he's suspected of knowing something in Kyron's case?This gave them the excuse to hold him,maybe.Like give us what you know and we'll give you a better sentence.

I dunno, winterrose. I bet the sentencing date will pop up soon.

You may be onto something, though! I bet FBI has talked to him. This sentence could definitely be the leverage that is needed to get some info.

Great thought---had never even passed my mind.

 

[Soulmagent]

No. He is 32 now and he was first charged 1/23/09. The docket says he was convicted of 3rd degree child molestation. To me, that says the victim was pre-puberty. If anyone has any facts or sure knowledge that it was a teenager, please let us know. We might be making assumptions that are not true.

The law for WA I posted on page2 says 14-16

I do not think he had ANYTHING directly to with this Kyron. Nor do I think he molest small children . I think he preys on young teens.