KS KS - Lori Heimer 57, murdered in her Saline County home, 25 Jun 2016

[glf]

But that's just what you've heard from other sources. If it's not from the KBI or sheriff, how reliable is it? I respect your opinion but since we're not privy to the murder weapons or how she was killed, it's hard to speculate.

Why would they tape the entire front of the house out to the far sides. Do they think the perp (s) drove around back? I do recall reading that her dogs were not kept in the house.

I also think it interesting that she was discovered by a family member at 8pm. I suspect they work in the fields until dark? So maybe that makes more sense than I'm thinking.



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Roping off that much area may have been to try and make certain they hadn't missed any evidence. And yes working til dark is just normal with harvest. Most farm machinery have headlights and taillights to give them ample light to be able to work a little longer in the evening.

 

[missimple]

But that's just what you've heard from other sources. If it's not from the KBI or sheriff, how reliable is it? I respect your opinion but since we're not privy to the murder weapons or how she was killed, it's hard to speculate.

Why would they tape the entire front of the house out to the far sides. Do they think the perp (s) drove around back? I do recall reading that her dogs were not kept in the house.

I also think it interesting that she was discovered by a family member at 8pm. I suspect they work in the fields until dark? So maybe that makes more sense than I'm thinking.



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Well the neighbor that told me was just by chance, I didn't not know anyone in that town. I went there for a reason to the neighbors to get something. I was shocked when she told me, I was mostly surprised that she told me that info, being she was a friend of Loris and a neighboring farmer herself. I suspect they roped of the pole barns, because the type of weapon used, is something that all farmers with fields would have. Maybe they think the suspect-s got it out of the pole barns, or barns. I don't know. Maybe the husband said he had one and they went out there to the barns to see if his was still there. I am so sorry for the daughters, I will never understand how one recovers from something this brutal, and I hope I never have to experience it myself. Maybe god give the daughters and loved ones the strength they need to get through all of this. I think the daughters are very strong in their faith and it shows.

 

[missimple]

Roping off that much area may have been to try and make certain they hadn't missed any evidence. And yes working til dark is just normal with harvest. Most farm machinery have headlights and taillights to give them ample light to be able to work a little longer in the evening.

Privy - It's a shame that it even got out. Not sure how the neighbors know if it was family because the one did go to the funeral, or was it a LEO- EMT- ect, I hate to post anything I have heard is because I am not sure if a family member is in this chat. I have seen where the daughters have enter other fb groups where people are talking about it, not details just in general. I came to this site because I felt could speak freely of my opinions, and maybe shed some light on this horrible crime. I do however try to give some type of insight as to what I have heard without getting to detailed or offending anyone, I honestly do not want to offend anyone.

 

[missimple]

Roping off that much area may have been to try and make certain they hadn't missed any evidence. And yes working til dark is just normal with harvest. Most farm machinery have headlights and taillights to give them ample light to be able to work a little longer in the evening.

One thing that bother me was. The husband said he was in the field harvesting, and guess it checked out. Lori on her Facebook page said on the 23rd, they would be done with harvest tomorrow and she would be able to answer more questions than. So by Loris word 24th harvest should of been done for them. She was killed on the 25th, and had answered a few questions like she said she would be able to after harvest. The husband said he came home at 11:00 to make a sandwich and fill his water. That was the last time he said he seen her. I was kind of surprised, because I am from a farming community, and most crews don't stop production to get water and food, most wives take drinks and food for the whole crew, honestly that is just common around here, I am not just saying that. Someone stated on here the husband gave the info on the trucks he seen well working across the house harvesting- not sure if that info is true- I don't recall reading where the husband said that such as newspapers. I must say, I am suspicious of the husband, and no one will agree with me on that, I just have my doubts. If what I heard was used to kill Lori, it's something the husband would have on him if he is in the field or in his barns. I am not convinced on the dog buyer theory---I also thought maybe Lori seen something she should of seen, maybe? I have a lot of maybes, that is all I have is maybe? The police don't want to release any info, they want us to call them and help them. I feel we are limited to our own thoughts of what has happened to her.

 

[missimple]

One thing that bother me was. The husband said he was in the field harvesting, and guess it checked out. Lori on her Facebook page said on the 23rd, they would be done with harvest tomorrow and she would be able to answer more questions than. So by Loris word 24th harvest should of been done for them. She was killed on the 25th, and had answered a few questions like she said she would be able to after harvest. The husband said he came home at 11:00 to make a sandwich and fill his water. That was the last time he said he seen her. I was kind of surprised, because I am from a farming community, and most crews don't stop production to get water and food, most wives take drinks and food for the whole crew, honestly that is just common around here, I am not just saying that. Someone stated on here the husband gave the info on the trucks he seen well working across the house harvesting- not sure if that info is true- I don't recall reading where the husband said that such as newspapers. I must say, I am suspicious of the husband, and no one will agree with me on that, I just have my doubts. If what I heard was used to kill Lori, it's something the husband would have on him if he is in the field or in his barns. I am not convinced on the dog buyer theory---I also thought maybe Lori seen something she should of seen, maybe? I have a lot of maybes, that is all I have is maybe? The police don't want to release any info, they want us to call them and help them. I feel we are limited to our own thoughts of what has happened to her.

One more thing I didn't mention in above, Lori does have a personal fb page, besides the poodle page of hers. She had made it public so I or anyone else could read it., anyway.....she honestly seemed like such a sweet loving mother and she loved those dogs and puppies dearly . Well its pretty lengthy reading, think it goes from 1013 to 2015..in that time she had I want to say 3 broken arms it could of been two but think it was 3, in two years, she also had a broken ankle that was due to her walking at a marathon, if I remember correctly. She also stated on her page she got a big goose egg on her forehead or head, can't remember how. One of her friends comments," your getting accident prone Lori.".......it got me thinking and I am sure you might know what I was thinking, but hey maybe it all was just two years of bad luck breaking bones and being accident prone

 

[SeesSeas]

Missimple - Thanks for providing some local insight. You’ve got me thinking beyond the value of Lori’s dogs as a reason for her being murdered. Since her murder was ‘brutal’, it does seem the motive was not money. It was a vengeful murder.

KBI stated in the August 9[SUP]th[/SUP] MEDIA RELEASE “On June 25, 2016, Lori J. Heimer was brutally murdered in her home”
http://www.kansas.gov/kbi/docs/media releases/Heimer Death Inv 08-09-16.pdf

A definition of BRUTAL:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/brutal
Savagely violent - ‘a brutal murder’

Would KBI use the description “brutally murdered” if Lori was strangled? Or killed by gunshot? Or killed by stabbing?

It does seem that a brutal murder would mean something worse than a quick death.

Perhaps the murder of Lori had no direct relation to her breeding and selling dogs. If she was tortured and possibly dismembered, that would certainly steer toward a theory of hatred or revenge as the motive. Something personal. The murderer wanted her to suffer.

Other than industrial machines, wheat farmers might use a sickle or scythe. Perhaps she was tortured and murdered with one of these hand tools?

 

[glf]

One more thing I didn't mention in above, Lori does have a personal fb page, besides the poodle page of hers. She had made it public so I or anyone else could read it., anyway.....she honestly seemed like such a sweet loving mother and she loved those dogs and puppies dearly . Well its pretty lengthy reading, think it goes from 1013 to 2015..in that time she had I want to say 3 broken arms it could of been two but think it was 3, in two years, she also had a broken ankle that was due to her walking at a marathon, if I remember correctly. She also stated on her page she got a big goose egg on her forehead or head, can't remember how. One of her friends comments," your getting accident prone Lori.".......it got me thinking and I am sure you might know what I was thinking, but hey maybe it all was just two years of bad luck breaking bones and being accident prone

Lori and I are the same age, and I can certainly understand being accident prone. I have osteopenia, a precursor to osteoporosis, diagnosed in 2008. I lost my balance and fell off the steps in 2005, and broke my wrist in two places. I was cleaning house and moving furniture in 2005, eight months before I broke my wrist, and I have three pinched nerves in my right leg and one in the left, and a twisted pelvis, and it is permanent damage. I have not EVER been pain free since the injury. Lori could have had osteopenia that went undiagnosed causing her problems. And I definitely feel more "clumsy" each year as I get older. I think taking my problems into consideration, and aging, clumsiness just comes with the territory.
The type of person Lori seemed to be, and her girls seem to be alot like her, I don't believe her husband ever mistreated her. I hope nobody ever proves me wrong on that theory!

 

[missimple]

Missimple - Thanks for providing some local insight. You’ve got me thinking beyond the value of Lori’s dogs as a reason for her being murdered. Since her murder was ‘brutal’, it does seem the motive was not money. It was a vengeful murder.

KBI stated in the August 9[SUP]th[/SUP] MEDIA RELEASE “On June 25, 2016, Lori J. Heimer was brutally murdered in her home”
http://www.kansas.gov/kbi/docs/media releases/Heimer Death Inv 08-09-16.pdf

A definition of BRUTAL:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/brutal
Savagely violent - ‘a brutal murder’

Would KBI use the description “brutally murdered” if Lori was strangled? Or killed by gunshot? Or killed by stabbing?

It does seem that a brutal murder would mean something worse than a quick death.

Perhaps the murder of Lori had no direct relation to her breeding and selling dogs. If she was tortured and possibly dismembered, that would certainly steer toward a theory of hatred or revenge as the motive. Something personal. The murderer wanted her to suffer.

Other than industrial machines, wheat farmers might use a sickle or scythe. Perhaps she was tortured and murdered with one of these hand tools?

Yes. brutal, no gunshot, no stabbing. Brutal to the the point as why? why, all that why? She didn't deserve to die such a horrifying death, filled with hatred and torture, what you said is true and some has not been said. To think a robbery, when there has been nothing taken or they can't say if a dog was taken. Your don't do all that and leave with nothing. That is why the robbery I can't believe that, no proof of anything taken. It's like one of the worst 20/20 shows. It plays in your mind the whole time your watching it, thinking how can anyone do that to a human. Grant it yes, they are rumors by the neighboring farmers, I would be better off not of hearing it, it just plays in my mind, she didn't stand a chance for surviving. So did she see something she should of seen, and someone went there to make an example out of her, did the husband- boyfriend, not saying it was but one was has to wonder. maybe it was a robbery gone bad, but wouldn't the suspect-s take a gun. I just wish they would get whoever did this to her. That person-s don't deserve to walk the streets another day. I don't know I find myself preparing on what I would of done if I had been her, omg I would of gladly welcomed death and just put me out of my misery. Maybe the rumors are way off, but I have to decide to believe them or not, they have been planted in my head and it's hard to run that off, and I just don't think that neighbor was liying to me I just don't think she was. What she told me matched up to what my MIL was told. I didn't really be that the person that told my MIL this stuff , if it was true, and by chance a week later i go to a farm house to get something, and I am told almost the same as what my MIL was told.

 

[missimple]

Lori and I are the same age, and I can certainly understand being accident prone. I have osteopenia, a precursor to osteoporosis, diagnosed in 2008. I lost my balance and fell off the steps in 2005, and broke my wrist in two places. I was cleaning house and moving furniture in 2005, eight months before I broke my wrist, and I have three pinched nerves in my right leg and one in the left, and a twisted pelvis, and it is permanent damage. I have not EVER been pain free since the injury. Lori could have had osteopenia that went undiagnosed causing her problems. And I definitely feel more "clumsy" each year as I get older. I think taking my problems into consideration, and aging, clumsiness just comes with the territory.
The type of person Lori seemed to be, and her girls seem to be a lot like her, I don't believe her husband ever mistreated her. I hope nobody ever proves me wrong on that theory!

I also am Loris age, I know how our bones are not as strong. I am a live she is not, and you do have to look at happening such as that in a murder case, I would think the LEO did. and checked into it. I don't know the husband, how can you say for certain, do you know how many women our killed by the husband, men the community would say could never do that, the children that stand by the dad in court in denial, even when convicted, the kids still say he didn't do it. So yes, I am sorry but the husband should always be checked out thoroughly.

 

[missimple]

Until the investigates have a suspect and gosh I hope they do soon. I am not ruling out anyone not even the -- robbing of a dog theory, which is just what they want us to believe. I don't believe that is what got her killed. Hey it could of happened, wanted money and didn't get it and tutored her to make her talk. Good thing no one else came home, not no daughters or husband, so they must of known they had a little time . My husband says something like that could take less then 30 mins to do. wow I was think it would of taken a couple of hours..I can't hardly believe it would be the husband either, I seen his picture his daughter posted on the prayer page, in the room sitting on a chair the room the mom died in. He looks harmless and loving, I just would think he could either, but that doesn't men he did or didn't

 

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I also am Loris age, I know how our bones are not as strong. I am a live she is not, and you do have to look at happening such as that in a murder case, I would think the LEO did. and checked into it. I don't know the husband, how can you say for certain, do you know how many women our killed by the husband, men the community would say could never do that, the children that stand by the dad in court in denial, even when convicted, the kids still say he didn't do it. So yes, I am sorry but the husband should always be checked out thoroughly.

I have no problem with the po!ice checking him thoroughly. If they didn't, they wouldn't be doing their job! I just do not believe he did this! I certainly hope there will be an arrest very soon.

 

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No updates in Salina Post today.

 

[SeesSeas]

I don’t recall seeing this article posted 12 days ago. There is a video including segments of Lori’s husband and daughters speaking:
http://www.kwch.com/content/news/Saline-Co-family-remembers--389356552.html
Saline Co. family wants answers in their mother's murder
Posted: Fri 10:30 PM, Aug 05, 2016 | Updated: Fri 10:33 PM, Aug 05, 2016
[…] “Filled the water jug and made a sandwich there about 11 o’clock in the morning on my way to the combine in the harvest field,” Ron Heimer remembered about his wife Lori. “That’s when I saw her the last time.” […]

 

[Razz]

I also am Loris age, I know how our bones are not as strong. I am a live she is not, and you do have to look at happening such as that in a murder case, I would think the LEO did. and checked into it. I don't know the husband, how can you say for certain, do you know how many women our killed by the husband, men the community would say could never do that, the children that stand by the dad in court in denial, even when convicted, the kids still say he didn't do it. So yes, I am sorry but the husband should always be checked out thoroughly.

Not to be outdone by you ladies and your bones but...I am several years older than all of you and have bones of steel. But then, I was born, bred and wed in the Sunflower state. 😆 And it would be highly unusual for me to have broken arms. So, I guess, everyone is different. But I remember a male friend say to me, " You are good strong Kansas stock." Like I was cattle. But I took it as a compliment.

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[SeesSeas]

Not to be outdone by you ladies and your bones but...I am several years older than all of you and have bones of steel. But then, I was born, bred and wed in the Sunflower state.  And it would be highly unusual for me to have broken arms. So, I guess, everyone is different. But I remember a male friend say to me, " You are good strong Kansas stock." Like I was cattle. But I took it as a compliment.

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I am also several years older and have strong bones. I have a bit more clumsiness now than a few years ago, but nothing that has resulted in any broken bones. I have never had a broken bone ever.
I did not yet review much of the older posts on Lori’s personal FB page that missimple mentioned. But I think I’ll go read there now.

 

[glf]

Well, I was born and raised in the Tex panhandle, and living in Tex now. But I spent 27 years in Kan, moved last Nov, and feel like a misplaced Kansan! One reason I was thinking undiagnosed osteopenia, (I'm an LPN) is the fact that she has four kids. Pregnancy can really drain calcium stores, and nursing would add to that, plus her age. I'm very happy that you haven't had any breaks, count your blessings!

 

[lusd]

From what I hear, and please delete if not allowed, the husband was across the road harvesting, and these are two vehicles he noticed driving around the section that he didn't recognize. He had people helping him harvest, so was cleared, from what I understand

Do you have a link stating this. I'd like to check it out please.

 

[mommyov3angels]

I too, am doubting the husband's story... How he could get the detailed descriptions of the two vehicles and their drivers from a field where he was working across the street? All the previous injuries to Lori's being accident prone? The murder being recalled by family, sheriff, neighbors, reporters - all as "a very brutal murder"... So, we can gather from that - this was no simple gun shot or her being hit on the head... In most cases where the spouse is killed, the husband or wife is always the first suspect. Lori's husband says he was with her around 11:00 for lunch... It happened in the bedroom.. Just sounds to me like a crime of passion... Maybe he overheard her on the phone with another man? Maybe there was a man there and ran out when husband came home? Maybe there was no one coming to look at those dogs that day - maybe in reality it was just a boyfriend coming over to see her?? I'm not trying to rude or ugly - I'm just stating that this is so many times the case when a husband or wife is killed.

 

[missimple]

I am sure they have thoroughly cleared him of any wrong doing. I also think the family was so rounded , I find it hard to believe he could of doe this also, but I am suspicious of him all the same.i just wonder if she seen something she shouldn't of. I do know she did water walking, I have no clue what it is, any one know? I know she walked out in the county, to lose weight, she stated that on Facebook. Could she of seen something when she was walking? Is water walking- walking in water? Could she of utilized the creek to water walk and maybe seen something?

 

[missimple]

Not to be outdone by you ladies and your bones but...I am several years older than all of you and have bones of steel. But then, I was born, bred and wed in the Sunflower state.  And it would be highly unusual for me to have broken arms. So, I guess, everyone is different. But I remember a male friend say to me, " You are good strong Kansas stock." Like I was cattle. But I took it as a compliment.

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Ha Ha, Yes he meant that as a complement. I just love some of the terms the Kansas people come up with. I must say, I have never heard that one, too cute.