Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #13 *Arrest*

[chihuahua]

AH! Didn't she state in court papers that she hadn't been able to keep up with her child support in part due to health issues?

Yes she did.

 

[ScarlettLin]

'To make him think she took the kids out for supper with him? Remember, he had no way of knowing that Lucas wasn't with her and lil sis.

Going to find food has the same net effect
Heck saying mcds would probably sound more plausible for little bitty kids


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[n_6CC]

AH! Didn't she state in court papers that she hadn't been able to keep up with her child support in part due to health issues?

Yes-specifically health issues-


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[kkdj]

If EG were doing something nefarious at or near OG she wouldn't want Lucas to witness what she was up to. He might tell his other family or the step brothers, who might tell her ex. I'll bet leaving him home alone happened much more than this one time!
:tantrum::maddening:

 

[ScarlettLin]

If EG were doing something nefarious at or near OG she wouldn't want Lucas to witness what she was up to. He might tell his other family or the step brothers, who might tell her ex. I'll bet leaving him home alone happened much more than this one time!
:tantrum::maddening:

Sadly you’re likely spot on


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[Stacy zelepos]

This is the time of year that people walk and search for antler sheds (the male deer shed their antlers around here in Central Kansas heaviest in March and April). I don't do Facebook, but in searching for groups that hunt for them online I came across this:

https://www.facebook.com/TheAntlerCollector/

I think they are located in Abilene, KS. I would guess that there are members of this FB group from Wichita and the surrounding area.

Could someone send this group a message and attach one of Lucas' fliers please?

Antlers is going to post the flyer!! They are the first ones to respond to me all day

 

[Zelda1010]

I am of the mind that something harder than pot is involved, too.

But, even if she is just an everyday use stoner, being out of pot would put her in a pickle. Especially if she thought she was good to go to get more near OG and that fell through. Now she gets back and just smoked the last of her stash. By 6 or 7 PM, if she is a regular smoker, she'd be jonesing. She'd be irritable with a short temper and no way to calm back down to her Zen self. Moo.

 

[razzledazzle]

Also, another thing to ponder. In her interview, she says she took the picture of the people standing outside to send to JH- “to be like what is going on”? Because I’m home alone. How and why would he know what is going on? He’s 12 hours away. But how she says it, makes me wonder why she would think he would even know? Or better yet, why she says exactly that. If they are “real “, did she do something to make someone want to find her? I doubt they are, but that sentence of hers really makes no sense. But if there were SOME truth to it, besides time and day, what would it be? Is it relative?


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Yes, this has always bugged me too. Hypothetically, I could see her sending a pic to him if someone showed up at the house that she didn't approve of or want around and say basically WTF? But in this case, I think there is some truth to her seeing two people or two people seeing her - somewhere - maybe - whenever.

I think she used this tidbit of truth to basically through suspicion on JH, and away from herself. The two people are probably irrelevant. JMO MOO

 

[Busylady]

JH had sent her the gift card for valentines day so makes sense to me she that she likes OG and she would tell JH she was going to use the gift card. IMO I just don't see her as a meth or heroin user, think pot is a regular occurrence in their home and I can see her being addicted to something like oxy for pain.

 

[chihuahua]

If EG were doing something nefarious at or near OG she wouldn't want Lucas to witness what she was up to. He might tell his other family or the step brothers, who might tell her ex. I'll bet leaving him home alone happened much more than this one time!
:tantrum::maddening:

I totally agree this wasn't the first time Lucas had been left at home,,breaks your heart.:gaah:. Look she's obviously got some issues going on. Most people do. But that doesn't excuse whatever it is that she has done to make Lucas "disappear" and IMO if anyone thinks that he is just going to be forgotten by the world outside of his immediate circle, they've got another thought coming!
I'm sure that's what her defense attorney wants to happen. So then EG can get her "real story" out there, Notice in her interview how quickly she shifts moods when asked about people thinking she had "anything to do with this". Guess she's referring to folks like us. http://www.kwch.com/video/?vid=475560153
If I'm wrong about her, I will gladly apologize :moo:

 

[Somer]

Sadly you’re likely spot on


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I know it's been stated there were 2 outgoing calls 'near' OG but I'm lacking confirmation she was actually there and ate. Maybe she told JH she was going there to use her gift card but actually met someone near there to trade it for drugs? Maybe?

 

[PommyMommy]

Antlers is going to post the flyer!! They are the first ones to respond to me all day

Oops, I contacted them also, but that's awesome! Can we work on these in the Flyers thread so we don't duplicate again? There's also a spreadsheet there to keep track of which businesses/groups have been contacted. I've already updated it with the Antler Collector so hopefully they don't get a third flyer, LOL!!!

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?367661-Flyers-for-Lucas-Hernandez

:loveyou:

 

[MsJosie]

I hope this helps everyone with the immunization shots, records etc. This is for Wichita School District only.

Here is the information from USD 259, Wichita Schools along with the link.

https://www.usd259.org/page/1984

This is link to Immunization requirements. You can find the bullet on the right hand side of the sheet at this link to view the below information. It is in 3 languages....I choose English.

NOTE I bolded some areas.

"Wichita Public Schools
Division of Student Support Services
Department of Health Services
Immunizations Required For School Policy Statement And Guidelines


State law requires documentation of student immunizations. This information must be provided to Wichita Public Schools on an official form such as –

 Kansas Certificate of Immunization (KCI) - available from your neighborhood school, most health care providers, and www.usd259.org. Another state’s “Certificate of Immunization”
 School transcript containing immunization information from a previous school
 Medical records from the health department or from a medical agency

Documentation Requirements On Official Forms

**Documentation of your child's immunizations must include month, date, and year.
**Acceptable signatures include health care provider and health department officials.
**Signatures of a nurse, physician assistant, or nurse practitioner working in a physician’s office will
be accepted if they include the name of the health care provider or clinic with whom they are affiliated. USD #259 School Personnel, Parents, And/Or Guardians
Are Not Authorized To Complete And Sign KCIs

The following documentation of legal alternatives to vaccination requirements are acceptable.

1) A medical exemption shall be validated annually by a physician (Medical Doctor/M.D. or
doctor of Osteopathy/D.C.) by completion of “KCI Form B”. This form is available at http://www.kdheks.gov/immunize/schoolInfo.htm or from the school nurse. The medical exemption must be due to a physical condition of the child so that the tests or inoculations would seriously endanger the life of the child. “KCI Form B” must be renewed every school year.

2) Written statement signed by parent or guardian that the child is an adherent of a
religious denomination whose religious teachings are opposed to such tests or inoculations. The school reserves the right to require verification by the clergy of the religious tenets that preclude immunizations.
During Suspected Vaccine-Preventable Disease Outbreaks, Any Child Claiming Any Of The Above Exemptions Will Be Subject To Exclusion From School

Please Note –
At least one dose of each required vaccine must be received immediately preceding enrollment. Parents must verify that the child is in progress of obtaining basic required levels and awaiting the next available dose.
New students to Wichita Public Schools awaiting the transfer of immunization records have fourteen days to obtain them.

Philosophical beliefs for immunization exemption are not acceptable in the state of Kansas.
Immunizations Protect the Health of Your Child, Your Family, and Your Community
February 2018"

 

[Shelby1]

I'm on it. :dance:

Thank you so very much!!!

 

[Shelby1]

Antlers is going to post the flyer!! They are the first ones to respond to me all day

Oh thank you so much!

My hunch is that a hunter--antler or otherwise--will find him if he's out there.

 

[Zelda1010]

Also, another thing to ponder. In her interview, she says she took the picture of the people standing outside to send to JH- “to be like what is going on”? Because I’m home alone. How and why would he know what is going on? He’s 12 hours away. But how she says it, makes me wonder why she would think he would even know? Or better yet, why she says exactly that. If they are “real “, did she do something to make someone want to find her? I doubt they are, but that sentence of hers really makes no sense. But if there were SOME truth to it, besides time and day, what would it be? Is it relative?


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She snapped a pic bc she was going to send it and she's being like hey, this and that. Come to think of it, they were often like "hey Lucas", too. She does affirm that she sent it to Jonathan when the reporter asks (I did, I did), but she then changes the subject abruptly, with a sob and mentioning the sisters and brothers randomly.

I think she was questioned about this picture. I think it could have a cryptic caption. Maybe "home alone" to let him know some friends had left and he could call. Maybe "wtf" or "not very friendly" so she needs them to be offended by her being nice in her story. She's weaving together a totally made up explanation that answers a lot of unasked questions. Which makes me think she was asked these questions and thought and thought about reasonable (in her mind) answers to give, after the fact.

Jmo

 

[Shelby1]

P.S.

I apologize for posting about the antler searches here. I forgot about the flyer thread. My only excuse is that I'm exhausted.

 

[ScarlettLin]

Exactly. Do you remember the fight between JH and her that resulted in the DV report by police(one of them) it stemmed from her telling him she was sexually assaulted by her male friend? I’m wondering if that wasn’t a “get high” together encounter and the male expected more? I will never accuse a victim of sexual assault as it being their fault (it is a terrible crime against a person),but it makes me wonder if that isn’t what happened- I hate even saying it if she was a victim of that, but it has been in the forefront of my mind with drugs being so involved


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Yes that was odd to me too. That didn’t make much sense overall to me. I don’t see me and my hubby getting in a fight if I was sexually assualted. Him confronting the other guy, maybe, but not fighting with me about it.


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[chihuahua]

Yes that was odd to me too. That didn’t make much sense overall to me. I don’t see me and my hubby getting in a fight if I was sexually assualted. Him confronting the other guy, maybe, but not fighting with me about it.


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Yes I agree. There is an undercurrent of her calling wolf, We know she had an axe handle in her hand too. :thinking:
:moo:

 

[leyash]

Maybe the LL was coming back to make sure the cat was in fact gone?