Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #15 *Arrest*

[tourtellottebev]

VI is a verified insider usually a family member or someone who knows the victim very well. Paddleboader is also a vi as she is assisting the family.

Thank you for explaining


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[chihuahua]

I'm among those due to circumstances in my life who has a very strange schedule so I'm not one to sleep more than 4 hours at a time.
That's why ya'll (I'm from the south LOL) find me here so often.
Just doing my best to network and reach out for Lucas:floating:

 

[margarita25]

I randomly, accidentally came across this post from an early thread and find it interesting for a few different reasons:

https://www.websleuths.com/forums/s...7-Feb-2018-4-*Arrest*&p=13948909#post13948909
02-23-2018, 09:15 AM #110
MzOpinion8d

"Back on Day 1, a news article said that when "the adults" woke up from their nap Lucas was gone. Someone said the other adult was EG's sister. But what if it was actually another man? Maybe she had a side piece that got angry and hurt Lucas, but she can't tell the truth without admitting she was cheating?"

 

[margarita25]

I will go back and try to find the post, but I believe it was a VI that stated she was homeless when she met JH- that opened up so much for me in regards to who she might know, and inter workings of that scenario.


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(How did I miss this...really!?)

This being said, I asked awhile ago about Emily’s affiliation with the homeless here not too long ago. In the very beginning of this case, it was mentioned that Emily was homeless before meeting and when she met JH. This could also open up a large can of worms. People here, (and you might never even know it) that are on the streets and in the drug scene (pills, meth, heroin), they are known to squat in houses being built, or vacant homes-and not homes in the so-called “hood”. These houses are in the NE side of town and in the upwards of 300,000$ on up. I’m betting she’s got a lot of these types of contacts, and calls on them more than anyone knows. I’m sure LE has vetted any contacts in her phone, but just another question in my mind about her and people she would associate with. I would bet almost anything that the life she led when JH was home, was completely different when he was gone. I wish I knew more about her day to day, Hell, I might even be willing to sit in her pod for a length of time just to figure her out. She has a secret life. I’d bet big money on that one.



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Old vacant home, abandoned home...:thinking:

Excellent train of thought

Agreed.

Eta: I'm sure this has been mentioned to put flyers in the homeless shelters, maybe community food bank places, etc... (sorry, behind here!)

(Ugh, reminded of Relisha Rudd, bless her heart. She still has not been found and the POI offed himself...he was the janitor at a homeless shelter, iirc, where she and her family were staying...she was allowed to go off with him...they went to a motel room (per surveillance, I can still see that video in my head of them walking down the hall and going in the room ugh...)..his wife ended up dead in the motel room..there may have been others who visited the room, details are fading...he bought lye and garbage bags before he committed suicide. A park was searched, iirc...


DC - Relisha Tenau Rudd, 8, SE DC, 26 Feb 2014 - #1
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?238643-DC-Relisha-Tenau-Rudd-8-SE-DC-26-Feb-2014-1 )

 

[Yellow Rose]

Checking in in the wee hours on my little boy. Dear Lord, please bring Lucas home and let today be that day.

 

[hsprinkel]

O/T I watched Marcia Clark’s show tonight on Casey Anthony. It was very interesting - I learned facts I’d never heard before. Casey stuck by her original story until the end.

Ca was a real piece of work. Never forget when she took the le to universal studios to her "job". It was not until they were in the building that she finally broke on that one.

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[newmember]

just needed to type this out:

Wed Feb 14: EG claims JO picked up Lucas; this is proved a lie by LE; VIs noting there are significant details on this day
Thurs Feb 15:
Fri Feb 16: EG visits OG; Lucas is seen by LL; VIs mentioned focusing on the late hours of this day
Sat Feb 17: EG reports Lucas missing

 

[kkdj]

I think Valentine's day is a significant piece of the puzzle. EG lied to JH about Lucas's whereabouts on VD, said JO had him. There is a strong reason for this.
Then leaving him alone and going to OG 2 days later.
EG needed Lucas to not know things, not tell things to JH.
I think whatever she was up to was important enough to hide from JH that she needed to make sure Lucas couldn't tell him.
This sounds like another man or men or a business JH would not approve of.

 

[kkdj]

Has it been established that EG was homeless prior to her relationship with JH? If so, did she hustle?

 

[DakotaMayi]

How will it be two months soon since little Lucas was last seen by the LL? This wasn't supposed to go on like this.

 

[Coloradogirl]

Praying LE knows who EG's "friend" is and are tightening the net. I believe there was/is a "friend" and soon we will hear way more about this. Praying anyway that is the case. IMO

 

[newmember]

I think Valentine's day is a significant piece of the puzzle. EG lied to JH about Lucas's whereabouts on VD, said JO had him. There is a strong reason for this.
Then leaving him alone and going to OG 2 days later.
EG needed Lucas to not know things, not tell things to JH.
I think whatever she was up to was important enough to hide from JH that she needed to make sure Lucas couldn't tell him.
This sounds like another man or men or a business JH would not approve of.

i agree & mentioned in an earlier thread Lucas being able to tell his dad stuff could potentially be a problem for EG as he is starting to get older. i speculated this is why she didnt take him to OG and agree with you Valentine's day could be the same reason.

but what im struggling with on this train of thought now is why tell JH she's with JO on Valentine's when she could so easily get caught in that lie?? if she needed a cover to tell JH why she didnt have Lucas all day, why wouldnt she tell a lie that is less likely to surface or be uncovered (re say he is with a babysitter or friend/sister of EGs who would back her story) or not say anything at all. is she that crazy? that stupid? that much like CA? is JH THAT blind to her that he'd believe her despite proof JO was in ANOTHER STATE? maybe. not even being sarcastic.

or maybe its not (entirely) about making sure Lucas doesn't tell his dad stuff. is there another reason she would tell JH Lucas was with his mom? i realize we don't know (and i respect VIs cant share this) when EG told JH about Valentine's Day but if it was a few days after the 14th (late hours on the 16th, for example), maybe she was already concocting her story of what happened to Lucas? or if it was on the 14th or after, maybe it was unrelated to Lucas and she was trying to stir up drama among her/JO/JH?

 

[kkdj]

I'm thinking at this point LE has someone else they are talking to about EG's activities. This person or people might not know what EG did with Lucas but they know what EG was up to prior to him missing and maybe even after. They might not even have met Lucas, but can account for EG. Except during the time she took him somewhere.

 

[Kuyluc2764]

i agree & mentioned in an earlier thread Lucas being able to tell his dad stuff could potentially be a problem for EG as he is starting to get older. i speculated this is why she didnt take him to OG and agree with you Valentine's day could be the same reason.

but what im struggling with on this train of thought now is why tell JH she's with JO on Valentine's when she could so easily get caught in that lie?? if she needed a cover to tell JH why she didnt have Lucas all day, why wouldnt she tell a lie that is less likely to surface or be uncovered (re say he is with a babysitter or friend/sister of EGs who would back her story) or not say anything at all. is she that crazy? that stupid? that much like CA? is JH THAT blind to her that he'd believe her despite proof JO was in ANOTHER STATE? maybe. not even being sarcastic.

or maybe its not (entirely) about making sure Lucas doesn't tell his dad stuff. is there another reason she would tell JH Lucas was with his mom? i realize we don't know (and i respect VIs cant share this) when EG texted JH about Valentine's Day but if it was a few days after the 14th (late hours on the 16th, for example), maybe she was already concocting her story of what happened to Lucas? or if the texts were either on the 14th or after, maybe it was unrelated to Lucas and she was trying to stir up drama among her/JO/JH?

The only reasons I can think of would be if this was all premeditated and EG always planned on framing JO or if she just went with it after she was arrested since her groupies were blaming JO. I think it would make a difference to know if she told this lie to JH before Lucas came up missing or after she was arrested.

 

[Blef]

I'm thinking more and more that EG had another man on the side, and Lucas maybe started asking questions as to why he was around so much, and EG knew that it would cause issues. Maybe she snapped after coming back from OG (possibly with the other guy in tow) and realised that the LL had seen Lucas alone in the house and she would be in trouble. If she had someone else with her it would be much easier for them to get rid of Lucas. If she was homeless before I can imagine the last thing she would want is JH knowing she was cheating and throwing her and the baby out and them ending homeless again. JMO

 

[flute4peace]

i agree & mentioned in an earlier thread Lucas being able to tell his dad stuff could potentially be a problem for EG as he is starting to get older. i speculated this is why she didnt take him to OG and agree with you Valentine's day could be the same reason.

but what im struggling with on this train of thought now is why tell JH she's with JO on Valentine's when she could so easily get caught in that lie?? if she needed a cover to tell JH why she didnt have Lucas all day, why wouldnt she tell a lie that is less likely to surface or be uncovered (re say he is with a babysitter or friend/sister of EGs who would back her story) or not say anything at all. is she that crazy? that stupid? that much like CA? is JH THAT blind to her that he'd believe her despite proof JO was in ANOTHER STATE? maybe. not even being sarcastic.

or maybe its not (entirely) about making sure Lucas doesn't tell his dad stuff. is there another reason she would tell JH Lucas was with his mom? i realize we don't know (and i respect VIs cant share this) when EG told JH about Valentine's Day but if it was a few days after the 14th (late hours on the 16th, for example), maybe she was already concocting her story of what happened to Lucas? or if it was on the 14th or after, maybe it was unrelated to Lucas and she was trying to stir up drama among her/JO/JH?

Perhaps he had new bruises/injuries to explain away. If she claimed he was with JO, she would be "innocent" of inflicting them.

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[Jewels53]

or maybe its not (entirely) about making sure Lucas doesn't tell his dad stuff. is there another reason she would tell JH Lucas was with his mom? i realize we don't know (and i respect VIs cant share this) when EG told JH about Valentine's Day but if it was a few days after the 14th (late hours on the 16th, for example), maybe she was already concocting her story of what happened to Lucas? or if it was on the 14th or after, maybe it was unrelated to Lucas and she was trying to stir up drama among her/JO/JH?

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On the drama for EG, JH and JO was there really any drama there and why? EG wouldn't have any reason to be jealous of JH and JO would she? the only connection JH and JO have is Lucas, was it too much for EG that she had to get rid of Lucas so JO would be out of her way? I am just thinking why there might be drama between them.

imo jmo

 

[Mama3boys]

My mind is racing, what could of happened on Valentine's day? We know she had to come up with something to say where Lucas was...but we know what she said was not true. So WHERE was Lucas on Valentine's day? At home alone? Or was she home, not alone. Did she drop him off at a park to play, while someone was over? Is this why they focused so closely to the parks?

 

[Mama3boys]

Who would she have to explain new bruises to? JH was already gone for work..unless they video chatted, he would see bruises. Hmmm. I hate her, she's a monster.

 

[newmember]

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On the drama for EG, JH and JO was there really any drama there and why? EG wouldn't have any reason to be jealous of JH and JO would she? the only connection JH and JO have is Lucas, was it too much for EG that she had to get rid of Lucas so JO would be out of her way? I am just thinking why there might be drama between them.

imo jmo

it may not even be real drama but if EG is as crazy as she seems, maybe she thought JO was in the way - maybe EG was the paranoid/jealous type? its also been speculated on here EG wanted her own family - maybe if JO was gone itd be like Lucas was really hers? maybe its entirely EG being petty - there was once the incident at the school when EG failed to pick up Lucas so maybe EG would pounce on any opportunity to one-up JO/JOs family?

imo, the drama wouldnt have to be concrete/something your normal adult views as drama or conflict but something that would rile up a crazy, unstable person, if that makes sense.