Found Deceased Ks - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #30

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All I'm going to say is that Sirius XM Triumph Channel 132 was a vewwy, vewwy scary place to be today.
They (Shelly and Shani) were not allowed to get close to the house. They think there was a struggle between the front room and back door. ? They are saying there are cameras but they don't know if Jonathan is aware of the cameras. ? My head is spinning here.

They are saying JO picked him up on Valentine's Day. EG told her grandmother and her aunt that she was going to be in trouble with Jonathan for telling JO their new address.
so let me see if I’m following along. Insane person is suggesting that JO picked Lucas up and killed him? And EG didn’t report this to anyone when it happened? And then JO told EG where the body was? Yeah, right.
 
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May I just make a respectful little observation that, even though the kooks on NG are so kooky that they are somewhat entertaining, this whole thing stems from a multi-layered tragedy. I assume from their actions that they're deep into the drug scene and that's a tragedy in & of itself. Everyone involved is somebody's family member, even the kooks. Just a little something to keep in the back of our minds (myself included) as we continue to try to make sense of all of this.
 
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EG just had to cause that last bit of pain while making sure SHE wouldn’t face the discomfort of jail!!
So many lives destroyed, damaged, and changed all by one selfish woman. It just takes my breath away.
 
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I think they are referring to the under eye bags that are super obvious in her arraignment video, the same one where you can see her crusty knuckles. That was just tweak face with a bad angle and harsh lighting, obviously.
I am way behind...but if this was true, then her mugshot that day would show she had 2 black eyes...I doubt that happened...
 
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Statistics must have changed since my EMS day’s. That’s tragic. I was asking some old coworkers who have been doing this for 20yrs and only 2 have had suicide by fire arm in women and it was a total of 5 for them. This is in Texas also so you’d think it would have been higher when I worked on the ambulance due to the ease of obtaining. How sad that it’s become more prevalent. Most of the suicides we saw in women were overdose or hanging. Occasionally we had slit wrists etc. I’ve been to the scene on many males who used a gun and my heart broke with what I saw and the family unfortunately saw as well. It’s not pretty and it’s traumatic even for a seasoned medic to come in on :-(

I've always read that women kill themselves "neatly" so as to not leave a mess for someone to clean up. EG didn't give two sh*ts about anyone but herself, so a shotgun suicide sounds about right for her.
 
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For a case with every twist, turn and emotion possible I think we all deserve a standing ovation for behaving as well as we have.

(Standing Ovation in Progress)........

For real!!!
I just vented a truckload of snark and anger and sad and mad and crazy at poor Mr. Kadoober that I had building in me all day. I dont want the mighty ban hammer to fall upon me here. So he took the brunt, like a champ.

He'll never ban me. Bless him.
 
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So where does everyone think this will land regarding who’s responsible for Lucas? Does anyone think EG didn’t murder Lucas?
 
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I've always read that women kill themselves "neatly" so as to not leave a mess for someone to clean up. EG didn't give two sh*ts about anyone but herself, so a shotgun suicide sounds about right for her.
this is very insightful and i agree, is fitting here
 
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So where does everyone think this will land regarding who’s responsible for Lucas? Does anyone think EG didn’t murder Lucas?

No.
 
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For real!!!
I just vented a truckload of snark and anger and sad and mad and crazy at poor Mr. Kadoober that I had building in me all day. I dont want the mighty ban hammer to fall upon me here. So he took the brunt, like a champ.

He'll never ban me. Bless him.

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How did any of you manage to get through today's NG podcast? I keep trying to listen but I keep having to pause to pick my jaw up from off the floor. I'm only 15 minutes in and don't know if I can make it through the rest. So, THANK YOU to everyone who summarized it earlier. I give NG props for this-- she is not letting the crazy remarks go unchallenged. She has called them out and even used the word "conspiracy" already.

Here's the podcast link again for anyone who missed it: Breaking: Lucas Hernandez's step mom shot to death

(Listen with caution: may cause disbelief, outrage and the sensation that you are listening to a poorly scripted movie)
 
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There was never an investigation when my husband hung himself. Because there was no question it was suicide. I think they are just being very cautious.

Likewise with my husband. I wonder if it’s because of the fact that a gun was used?
 
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So where does everyone think this will land regarding who’s responsible for Lucas? Does anyone think EG didn’t murder Lucas?

Only the 2 women on NG and JH.
 
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So where does everyone think this will land regarding who’s responsible for Lucas? Does anyone think EG didn’t murder Lucas?
Put me firmly in the "EG is responsible for Lucas' death" camp.
 
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So where does everyone think this will land regarding who’s responsible for Lucas? Does anyone think EG didn’t murder Lucas?
i think there is definitely more to this case than we know - there's not one specific person/theory/statement driving me that direction but there have been endless twist and turns that i dont feel settled.

that being said, while i think this unknown information may provide more background info into what led up to Feb 11-17th, i think it all still leads back to EG taking Lucas' life on accident via her abuse or on purpose, alone or with a helper. i dont think any of this unknown information as it starts to come out over the next few weeks will provide us with a new murderer.
 
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