GUILTY KY - Boni Frederick, 67, slain during child abduction, Henderson, 16 Oct 2006

[LovelyPigeon]

I sure missed this.............where is it stated they are mentally retarded? I heaard of the mom having a disability--- but who states retarded?

That is my personal assessment of both Terrell and Luttrell. I suspect both of them have IQ's lower than 75.

Luttrell went to high school and got a certificate of attendance. He can read only "a little".

Terrell grew up in foster and youth homes, yearning for a mother to love and to love her. She went to high school and has attended some community college classes "off and on". She was previously married, her husband died, and their months old child was taken into state custody. She had another child by another man, and lost custody of that child also. In 1994 a baby of Terrell's died of SIDS.

Regardless of their level of intelligence (or lack of it) they are charged with murder and will have to face their actions through the legal system. The circumstances are just so sad for all involved.

Terrell recalled as being troubled
Despair, loss cut deep, friend says
By MARK WILSON
Courier & Press staff writer 464-7417 or [email protected]
Saturday, October 21, 2006 - http://www.courierpress.com/news/2006/oct/21/terrell-recalled-as-being-troubled/

 

[SewingDeb]

You might be right about his IQ, but I'm not so sure about hers:

Terrell told U.S. Magistrate Judge Donald Wilkerson at the hearing that she was a widow and high school graduate who attended four years of college. Luttrell, who choked back tears moments after being led into the courtroom in leg and arm shackles, said he had a high school equivalency diploma and could read "a little."


http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/21/baby.found.ap/index.html

 

[LovelyPigeon]

I think the "attended four years of college" is misleading, compared to what someone who actually knows Terrell and has been involved in her life for years had to say:

Hartley said she knew that Terrell has made mistakes, but that she is a good person who had attended classes at Ivy Tech and Henderson Community College off and on and was interested in bettering herself. - http://www.courierpress.com/news/2006/oct/21/terrell-recalled-as-being-troubled/

In general, I think it's safe to say that women of normal intelligence do not cultivate boyfriend relationships with males who are mentally disabled. The opposite, however, isn't as true.

I'm certainly not trying to offer any excuses for Terrell or Luttrell, but just trying to shed some light on explanations for what has happened in this case.

 

[SewingDeb]

I think the "attended four years of college" is misleading, compared to what someone who actually knows Terrell and has been involved in her life for years had to say:

Hartley said she knew that Terrell has made mistakes, but that she is a good person who had attended classes at Ivy Tech and Henderson Community College off and on and was interested in bettering herself. - http://www.courierpress.com/news/2006/oct/21/terrell-recalled-as-being-troubled/

In general, I think it's safe to say that women of normal intelligence do not cultivate boyfriend relationships with males who are mentally disabled. The opposite, however, isn't as true.

I'm certainly not trying to offer any excuses for Terrell or Luttrell, but just trying to shed some light on explanations for what has happened in this case.

I can appreciate that. In fact, it would be easier to understand the neglect of her children if we knew her IQ is low. Luttrell may not have a low IQ to only be able to read a little. He could have learning disabilities such as dyslexia though.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

Ky. Social Worker Murder Suspect Confesses
Asked By Reporter Outside Police Station, Says 'Yes, Ma'am'
HENDERSON, Ky., Oct. 26, 2006
(CBS/AP) The boyfriend of a woman accused of kidnapping her 9-month-old son has admitted to reporters that he killed social worker aide Boni Frederick in Henderson, Ky.

Christopher Luttrell was asked by a local television reporter if he killed Frederick. He replied: "Yes, ma'am."

Reporters were gathered outside the Henderson police station when Luttrell and Renee Terrell were returned to Kentucky from Illinois.

Terrell denied any involvement.

Luttrell also apologized for all the people he had hurt, including his family and friends.

"To the families of her I want to apologize to everybody," Luttrell said. "And I want to apologize to my mom and dad and all the friends I had. I hope you all still love me." --->>

http://www.wtvq.com/midatlantic/tvq/news.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2006-10-26-0002.html

 

[LovelyPigeon]

A frying pan was apparently the murder weapon used to kill Boni Frederick.

http://www.jg-tc.com/articles/2006/10/27/ap/us/d8l0tjio2.txt

 

[2sisters]

She doesn't seem retarded to me, then again i have never met her. In my opinion she sounds like a looney, manipulative, liar. I hope the 2 of them are never released form prison. Even if they are even slightly mentally challenged, they are still dangerous and should be locked up. It seems anymore that redardation frees criminals from responsibility. Most menally retarded know right from wrong and wouldn't dream of commiting murder, especially something as cold and calculated as this.

 

[2sisters]

http://www.14wfie.com/Global/story.asp?S=5643831&nav=3w6o

 

[SewingDeb]

What an awful way to go. My heart goes out to her family.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

It seems anymore that redardation frees criminals from responsibility.

I think that is far from the truth of the situation facing mentally retarded adults who break the law.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

Christopher Luttrell and Renee Terrell will be tried seperately, beginning in May:
http://www.14wfie.com/Global/story.asp?S=5946755&nav=3w6o

Check out this scourcher of a report on the social services system in Kentucky:

Fri, Jan. 19, 2007
Repulsive mess
Social-services scandal needs strong cleaner

Sadistic and criminal aren't words usually associated with social workers. But they come to mind while reading the results of a yearlong investigation into a Kentucky child-protection bureaucracy that was allowed to go rogue.

Social workers gave each other nicknames like "The Queen of Removal" and "Terminator" and laughed as they stripped children from their parents.

Workers and supervisors lied and falsified documents to cover up their misconduct and misled an accrediting agency. Those who protested or tried to report the abuses were targeted for retaliation, while some of those responsible were rewarded.

Not all, or even most, of the social workers in the eight-county Lincoln Trail area, based in Elizabethtown, are guilty of the abuses of government power detailed by Inspector General Robert J. Benvenuti III.

And such abuses are not confined to Lincoln Trail.

But that's not much consolation. --->>

Kentucky's social workers expose themselves daily to great danger for little pay while making difficult judgment calls on which the safety and well-being of children hinge.

Social worker Boni Frederick was killed last year while supervising an in-home visit between a foster child and his biological mother.

No one is criticizing the judgment calls required in the course of a day's work. But what developed within Lincoln Trail was pernicious and rotten -- an "attitude of supremacy" toward clients and the public, according to the IG's report. --->> http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/16495152.htm

 

[Opie]

There's an old quote that says power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. That seems to apply here, as these particular individuals had way too much power over other people's lives.

 

[OkieGranny]

From August 2008:

http://www.courierpress.com/gleaner/news/terrell-luttrell-sentenced-life-prison-without-par

Circuit Judge Karen Wilson sentenced Renee Terrell, 35, and Christopher Luttrell, 24, both of Henderson, to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Both recently had pleaded guilty to murder, first-degree robbery, kidnapping and theft of more than $300 in the 2006 slaying of Frederick, 67, as she facilitated a visit between Terrell and her then-infant son at Terrell's house.

 

[JusticeWillBeServed]

10 years later, slain social worker remembered

http://www.thegleaner.com/story/news/2016/10/14/10-years-later-slain-social-worker-remembered/91850234/

"This is going to be bad."

Ten years after the murder of social service aide Boni Frederick, Henderson Police Lt. John Nevels still remembers what he said as he left the station Monday, Oct. 16, 2006, heading to 1229-A Clay Street, where the 67 year old Frederick had gone earlier in the day.

Frederick's responsibility that day was to facilitate a final visit between Henderson resident Renee Terrell, then 33, and her 9-month old son, Saige. Saige was in the custody of the state and expected to be adopted by his foster parents, David and Jennifer Snyder of Union County.

When Nevels uttered those words he didn't know how right he was.

With Terrell and Luttrell behind bars, baby Saige was returned to the Snyders, who adopted him. He became Benjamen Saige Snyder.

Benjamen lived until the age of 3. He died in August of 2009 from childhood brain cancer.

"Benjamen was a special boy," said Jennifer Snyder. "His adoption day was the best day of my life and his death was the hardest. He touched a lot of lives. He loved big and he was loved big. He taught me a lot about faith and staying strong. He is missed every second of every day."

"Boni was my friend" she said. "I was the last friendly person she saw. Our conversation was the last friendly conversation she had. I still see her face as I walk down my sidewalk sometimes."

It's important to remember the 10-year anniversary of this tragedy, Nevels said. "People need to remember Boni."