KY - Breonna Taylor, 26, unarmed, fatally shot multiple times by police, Louisville, 13 Mar 2020

[sds71]

The footage, which was obtained by VICE News and documents what was seen by officers who responded to the scene after the shooting, has not previously been made public. It shows officers appearing to break multiple department policies and corroborates parts of Taylor’s boyfriend’s testimony. It also raises questions about the integrity not only of the crime scene but of the ensuing investigation into what happened that night.

New Body-Cam Footage Raises Questions About Breonna Taylor Death Investigation

 

[Dawookie]

No

Not necessarily you have to take into account that you had an officer who was shooting blindly into that apartment, I understand Mattingly feels that he took the first shot which was from KW firearm, but once the first shot was fired all hell broke loose not to mention all of the ricochet that had to be going on if you look at the photos, which is why having the FBI ballistic report released is the only way to truly answer this question since Hankinson was also using a 9mm gun and the projectile recovered from KW gun was found with no blood on it..To many questions without answers YET.

There's nothing in an apartment that would cause a ricochet. Drywall, wood, stucco and any metal in the apartment wouldn't be thick enough to cause one. The only thing that would have caused a ricochet, would have been the concrete walkway and the entry wound would be able to give an idea of which direction the bullet came from.

 

[Kimmer]

There's nothing in an apartment that would cause a ricochet. Drywall, wood, stucco and any metal in the apartment wouldn't be thick enough to cause one. The only thing that would have caused a ricochet, would have been the concrete walkway and the entry wound would be able to give an idea of which direction the bullet came from.

I respectively have to disagree they shot the place up, they hit pots and pans, clocks, dishwasher, bedroom furniture.
I am not saying all the bullets ricocheted but I also don't believe that some of them didn't.

 

[Kimmer]

This is about the "outstanding" career of Bret Hankinson
LMPD investigating officer involved in Breonna Taylor raid for sexual assault

 

[Dawookie]

There's nothing in an apartment that would cause a ricochet. Drywall, wood, stucco and any metal in the apartment wouldn't be thick enough to cause one. The only thing that would have caused a ricochet, would have been the concrete walkway and the entry wound would be able to give an idea of which direction the bullet came from.

I respectively have to disagree they shot the place up, they hit pots and pans, clocks, dishwasher, bedroom furniture.
I am not saying all the bullets ricocheted but I also don't believe that some of them didn't.

None of that would cause a ricochet to come back at the Mattingly. The only possibility of a richochet hitting Mattingly would be for it to come off the concrete from the back or side. Pots and pans are going to fly away and the richochet would go away from him. Bullets would go through clocks and dishwashers and embed in bedroom furniture. I've been shooting for 20 years using all sorts of materials as targets and the only instances of ricochets are bullets hitting solid immovable objects and even then they go away at the opposite angle of which they hit. I shoot at steel targets all the time with no ricochets, they hit the target and fall straight down. You'd have to be shooting at them at an angle for a ricochet to happen and even then it's going to go away from you.

 

[tresir2012]

Officer Hankinson who was blindly shooting into the apartment was using his police issued 9mm weapon.

But none of those went near Breonna so what is your point? Also, do you have a link to the fact he was using a 9 mm gun?

 

[tresir2012]

Banging on a door is different than announcing that you are with LE. If you hear what sounds like someone breaking into your home in the middle of the night and you grab your legal weapon and come out to see the door being breached it would be normal for any homeowner to shoot in fear and to protect their family and domain. Had KW known it LE he would have not shot a warning shot. Kenneth and Breonna were not involved in illegal activities there would have been no reason for them not to comply with LE had they know that was who was at the door. There were no drugs or large amounts of cash found in her home she worked at 2 Louisville hospitals and he worked for Coca cola so there was no reason to refuse a search warrant and shoot at police unless you didn't know it was Police and felt your home was being broken into.

The facts show they did knock on the door and announce, even though it was a no knock warrant. Something made them get out of bed so they definitely heard it but mistook knocking and announcing for someone breaking in, KW admitted he then realised they were LE immediately and threw his gun under the bed. His mistake caused her death.

 

[tresir2012]

Not if that evidence was not presented to the Grand Jury, I cannot blame the GJ for their decision, but there are questions as to what evidence the AG presented to them. He has already admitted he did not tell them that the warrant application was obtained with untruthful information and information that was 2 months old.

The warrant info isn't relevant to the fact that LE were fired upon so were entitled to return fire to defend themselves.

 

[Deleted member 267032]

But none of those went near Breonna so what is your point? Also, do you have a link to the fact he was using a 9 mm gun?

I asked earlier for a link. This is very important information because it would contradict the AG press conference info.

 

[tresir2012]

Did KW shoot his "warning shot" out of a window? Just read a DM article from early in the month that states that and I had not heard that before.

Breonna Taylor case: Evidence photos show shell casings and bodycam | Daily Mail Online

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The handgun which Taylor's boyfriend fired out the window, hitting Mattingly, was shown

 

[ivegotthemic]

The facts show they did knock on the door and announce, even though it was a no knock warrant. Something made them get out of bed so they definitely heard it but mistook knocking and announcing for someone breaking in, KW admitted he then realised they were LE immediately and threw his gun under the bed. His mistake caused her death.

Respectfully, I have to disagree. Under Kentucky Law statute - Ky. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 503.055 (West)

(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a felony involving the use of force.

KW and BT were law abiding citizens awoken in the middle of the night to their front door being broken down and they reasonably believed they were about to be attacked by people breaking into their home. BT and KW called out to LE several times asking who was there and got no response. As such KW was well within his rights under Kentucky law to stand his ground and fire a warning shot. It was not KWs mistake that caused BT's death, it was LE's.

LE improperly executed a warrant which was obtained under false pretenses, they failed to check they were breaking down the door or the right address listed on the warrant, they failed to respond to BT and KW when asked to identify themselves, they did not ask KW to drop his weapon or announce themselves after he fired a shot but instead fired 32 bullets into his home killing BT. An ambulance on standby outside the apartment had been told to leave about an hour before the raid, counter to standard practice. As officers called an ambulance back to the scene and struggled to render aid to their colleague, Ms. Taylor was not given any medical attention.

It was not until 12:47 a.m., about five minutes after the shooting, that emergency personnel realized she was seriously wounded, after her boyfriend called 911. “I don’t know what’s happening,” Mr. Walker said on a recorded call to 911. “Someone kicked in the door and shot my girlfriend.”

Can you imagine the fear and confusion KW felt after seeing BT be shot in their home, and then to have several minutes pass before emergency personnel, and not LE work out/let him know what happened? None of the mistakes made that night are the fault of KW or BT. BT's death is a direct result of LE's violation of the Police Department’s policy on the use of deadly force and LE's
inadequate performance of their duties

 

[JerseyGirl]

Mayor Fischer will have an update on the release of a redacted version of the PIU investigation next week.

Newly obtained documents raise more questions about the Breonna Taylor investigation

 

[Deleted member 267032]

This is about the "outstanding" career of Bret Hankinson
LMPD investigating officer involved in Breonna Taylor raid for sexual assault

Certainly not someone I'd want on my force.

 

[tresir2012]

Respectfully, I have to disagree. Under Kentucky Law statute - Ky. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 503.055 (West)

(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a felony involving the use of force.

KW and BT were law abiding citizens awoken in the middle of the night to their front door being broken down and they reasonably believed they were about to be attacked by people breaking into their home. BT and KW called out to LE several times asking who was there and got no response. As such KW was well within his rights under Kentucky law to stand his ground and fire a warning shot. It was not KWs mistake that caused BT's death, it was LE's.

LE improperly executed a warrant which was obtained under false pretenses, they failed to check they were breaking down the door or the right address listed on the warrant, they failed to respond to BT and KW when asked to identify themselves, they did not ask KW to drop his weapon or announce themselves after he fired a shot but instead fired 32 bullets into his home killing BT. An ambulance on standby outside the apartment had been told to leave about an hour before the raid, counter to standard practice. As officers called an ambulance back to the scene and struggled to render aid to their colleague, Ms. Taylor was not given any medical attention.

It was not until 12:47 a.m., about five minutes after the shooting, that emergency personnel realized she was seriously wounded, after her boyfriend called 911. “I don’t know what’s happening,” Mr. Walker said on a recorded call to 911. “Someone kicked in the door and shot my girlfriend.”

Can you imagine the fear and confusion KW felt after seeing BT be shot in their home, and then to have several minutes pass before emergency personnel, and not LE work out/let him know what happened? None of the mistakes made that night are the fault of KW or BT. BT's death is a direct result of LE's violation of the Police Department’s policy on the use of deadly force and LE's
inadequate performance of their duties

So he leans out a window and shoots at them. Then doesn't shoot any more as he realises it is LE. If what you say is right then why did the GJ disagree and believe it was self defence by Mattingly and Cosgrove? When he called 911 he knew it was LE because he stated in his interview that was why he did not shoot any more and kicked his gun under a bed.

ETA have you a link to the Kentucky statute please? Otherwise it cannot be quoted as a fact.

 

[Deleted member 267032]

Respectfully, I have to disagree. Under Kentucky Law statute - Ky. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 503.055 (West)

(3) A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force, if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a felony involving the use of force.

KW and BT were law abiding citizens awoken in the middle of the night to their front door being broken down and they reasonably believed they were about to be attacked by people breaking into their home. BT and KW called out to LE several times asking who was there and got no response. As such KW was well within his rights under Kentucky law to stand his ground and fire a warning shot. It was not KWs mistake that caused BT's death, it was LE's.

LE improperly executed a warrant which was obtained under false pretenses, they failed to check they were breaking down the door or the right address listed on the warrant, they failed to respond to BT and KW when asked to identify themselves, they did not ask KW to drop his weapon or announce themselves after he fired a shot but instead fired 32 bullets into his home killing BT. An ambulance on standby outside the apartment had been told to leave about an hour before the raid, counter to standard practice. As officers called an ambulance back to the scene and struggled to render aid to their colleague, Ms. Taylor was not given any medical attention.

It was not until 12:47 a.m., about five minutes after the shooting, that emergency personnel realized she was seriously wounded, after her boyfriend called 911. “I don’t know what’s happening,” Mr. Walker said on a recorded call to 911. “Someone kicked in the door and shot my girlfriend.”

Can you imagine the fear and confusion KW felt after seeing BT be shot in their home, and then to have several minutes pass before emergency personnel, and not LE work out/let him know what happened? None of the mistakes made that night are the fault of KW or BT. BT's death is a direct result of LE's violation of the Police Department’s policy on the use of deadly force and LE's
inadequate performance of their duties

Do you have a link for saying they failed to check to see if they had the right address on the warrant. TIA

 

[ivegotthemic]

Do you have a link for saying they failed to check to see if they had the right address on the warrant. TIA

No I inferred that from the fact that LE executed a warrant at the wrong location

 

[ivegotthemic]

So he leans out a window and shoots at them. Then doesn't shoot any more as he realises it is LE. If what you say is right then why did the GJ disagree and believe it was self defence by Mattingly and Cosgrove? When he called 911 he knew it was LE because he stated in his interview that was why he did not shoot any more and kicked his gun under a bed.

I cant really speak to that, Grand Jury proceedings are sealed so we have no idea what evidence was or wasnt presented. in addition, The targets of the Grand Jury or their lawyers have no right to appear before a Grand Jury unless they are invited, nor do they have a right to present exculpatory evidence. Given that there's no opportunity to refute evidence or ensure all evidence it presented it could be any number of reason

 

[tresir2012]

No I inferred that from the fact that LE executed a warrant at the wrong location

I am not aware of a fact that it was a wrong location. It was one of three addresses identified as being connected to a drug operation. Can you elaborate what you mean by the "wrong location"? One of the people arrested that night had a vehicle registered at that location and bank statements going to that location.

 

[Deleted member 267032]

No I inferred that from the fact that LE executed a warrant at the wrong location

They did not execute a warrant at the wrong address. They had warrants for several addresses of which BT's address was one of them.

 

[tresir2012]

I cant really speak to that, Grand Jury proceedings are sealed so we have no idea what evidence was or wasnt presented. in addition, The targets of the Grand Jury or their lawyers have no right to appear before a Grand Jury unless they are invited, nor do they have a right to present exculpatory evidence. Given that there's no opportunity to refute evidence or ensure all evidence it presented it could be any number of reason

I realise that but what I have quoted has been reported in MSM which we can address and discuss.