Found Safe KY - Charlee Campbell, 2, *autistic* & Pitbull Terrier Named Penny, Bullitt County, 7 Jun 2018

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Even the pics of the pool had me concerned. I noted ladder attached and easy for a toddler to climb up. Especially with no supervision.
 
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I am confused, what do they think happen and why don't they think she simply got lost??
 
  • #643
Yes, but before the new revelations a lot of the public would probably have been concerned about the response of not letting Charlee go straight home being a bit heavy-handed, and the family just need to add more dead bolts.

With these revelations, who feels LE's being heavy handed in not handing C right back and getting CPS in? Not me!
I wonder, too, if the sheriff is hoping to keep the discussion going in the forefront of the minds of the local residents? Maybe hoping someone might call in with pertinent information that they wouldn't be privileged to otherwise?
 
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  • #645
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Sheriff Donnie Tinnell narrates why search parties may not have been able to find 2-year-old Charlee Campbell if she was in fact lost in the woods the entire time she was missing. -- Heather Fountaine WHAS11 News

It is good to see that the sheriff is trying to keep an open mind. He has a whole scenario in this video for how she could have wandered in the woods out of the search area and then came back to the house she showed up at (which was in the search area). He says toward the end of that video that it's a possibility that's what happened although he does not believe that is what happened. I like this sheriff. I know some are worried he is jeopardizing a criminal case by talking to the public so much but he seems to be very fair in weighing all the possibilities, IMO. I think he will get to the bottom of things and that's what is most important, IMO-- to figure out what happened and make sure it can't happen again. If she was really wandering for 33 hours in an area with deadly snakes, packs of wild hogs and coyotes, and with no food or water, it is an absolute miracle she came back alive. JMO.
 
  • #646
I am confused, what do they think happen and why don't they think she simply got lost??

The Sheriff seems to think someone in the family (or connected to the family) had Charlee with them in a house somewhere for a little while, but let her go when the FBI got involved. He stated he thoguht this was possibly a custody issue. He also said he wasn't sure if maybe someone had "bad thoughts but changed their mind"-- IMO, implying someone might have taken her to harm her.
 
  • #647
Others answered this already, but it is the pool at grandma and grandpa's house where Charlee was supposed to be living. See post #630 by Truth Prevails for a very good map.

I just realized from your post, that post numbers exist but only if I turn my phone sideways which I never do! Thank you for letting me know that at least they do exist but they just don't show up unless I turn my phone sideways. I just asked that question on another thread and you have answered it!
 
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I just realized from your post, that post numbers exist but only if I turn my phone sideways which I never do! Thank you for letting me know that at least they do exist but they just don't show up unless I turn my phone sideways. I just asked that question on another thread and you have answered it!
Thank you for that!!! I couldn't find post # either!
 
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I just realized from your post, that post numbers exist but only if I turn my phone sideways which I never do! Thank you for letting me know that at least they do exist but they just don't show up unless I turn my phone sideways. I just asked that question on another thread and you have answered it!

Glad you figured it out. I forgot not everyone can see the post numbers all the time so I edited my post above to add a link to the post with the map. The topography map Truth Prevails posted is especially helpful when taken along with the sheriff's video explanation of where Charlee might have wandered. It shows that there is a hill between the two houses. Although it is only about 500 yards from house to house, it would not be easy for a toddler to climb up the wooded hill and then come down to the other house in a straight line. MOO.
 
  • #650
I may have missed it if somebody'd already posted it, but I just saw this on WDRB-41.

Bullitt County Sheriff: grandmother to be charged after 2-year-old went missing
WDRB-41 (Louisville, KY)
6/12/2018
LEBANON JUNCTION, Ky. (WDRB) -- A Bullitt County grandmother is expected to face charges, after her granddaughter went missing for 32 hours last week.

Bullitt County Sheriff Donnie Tinnell tells WDRB Beth Campbell will cited with a criminal summons Wednesday, after a custody hearing or on Thursday.

Campbell is to be charged with endangering the welfare of a minor and neglect.
Tinnell says his office is getting a search warrant for Campbell's tablet and for Robert Bailey's cell phone.Bailey is a family member who is in jail on unrelated charges. Tinnell says he's also getting a search warrant for Charlee's step-dad's cell phone.
 
  • #651
I am so glad they are taking this so seriously! Kudos to LE!
 
  • #652
I'm just really frustrated with is case. So many adults surrounding this child and all of them so self evolved in their own lives and desires and wants that this 2 year old little girl hasn't been getting the love, support and attention she needs. No one has been putting Charlee first. They all say they love her but Mom picks a violent criminal to marry, which just about guarantees she'll never get custody of her child, the dad, I don't know what his story is but he's gotta be some kind of loser because he can't qualify for custody of his daughter and take care of her. Grandma is too busy partying like an aged rock star with her meth relatives to take care of this child. Grandpa seems to be the only one with any sense but he has to work to support everyone and doesn't have anyone reliable to do child care of this baby while he does.

No one is putting this child first. And she's the most needy and vulnerable. I get so disgusted with humanity sometimes.

Foster care is a nightmare and I'm afraid this is Charlee's future and life. I'm hoping for the best for her but I somehow lack enthusiasm she'll be okay. IMO
 
  • #653
At this point, I don't think grandma ever went to sleep. If you're smoking meth for hours you don't just lay down and go to sleep, unless it was really bad stuff or you had already been up for several days previously. I am guessing Grandpa didn't know that Grandma had an overnight visitor - I want to know what really happened that morning. Did grandma get up and get too busy to notice someone come in? Did she notice Charlee gone and send the dog out looking? I truly hope that nothing nefarious happened to Charlee, but everything is hinky in this case from the same age (in appearance) clueless great grandma and didn't report a missing baby grandma, Charlee's stepdad is the same age as grandma and grandpa and also a RSO, as well as a mystery death pool and tweaker cousin in the attic.

I wonder how many outbuildings/hunting shacks/camps there are in those woods? Could there be one they just missed in the searches, whether someone took Charlee there or she and Penny got there on their own? Couldn't the dogs track if she had left the home in a vehicle that morning? This is all just such a mess and I hope that Charlee ends up with a good family who will cherish her and put her first, giving her the best shot at a good life.
 
  • #654
I am confused, what do they think happen and why don't they think she simply got lost??
It is probably because in the very beginning of trying to find Charlee they had a situation where Charlee's mother's husband was acting suspicious going into and out of the woods and was saying things that caused law enforcement to look into him and they discovered his warrants out of Florida. That they were trying to find Charlee's mother to talk to her and she was hiding from them because she knew her husband had been arrested and she thought she had warrants as well. At that point I can't imagine that the Sheriff wasn't already thinking that the story he was being told about the timing and circumstances of Charlee's disappearance wasn't exactly truthful. When that happens, as we see in many cases where kids turn up dead, law enforcement is forced to divert resources to start investigating the people that were there, the people around Charlee, start looking through video, check for warrants, search homes, vehicles, etc. instead of being able to devote those resources to searching for a live child.

Any time you have a missing child and the adults around that child are more worried about themselves than the child then either the child is dead or one of them knows where the child is.

When you still haven't found the missing child and you then learn there was another person at the house the night before the child went missing but nobody offered that up and you find that person hiding in an attic then you have to consider that the situation may be something other than a missing person case.

Plus, I agree with the Sheriff that after the FBI got involved with interrogating people and starting a forensic search at Grandma's home it seems more than a little coincidental that Charlee and the dog turn up less than an hour later and the child and the dog were not together. It is very important to keep in mind that the dog was missing too. Unlike Charlee, the dog could bark, might come to his name - there is video footage of searchers calling for Penny. That they didn't find the dog with both of them being so close to home with the number of times (at least five) that they searched the area where they turned up with quite a number of resources, including tracking dogs, would make anyone consider that something isn't quite right about how this all played out.
 
  • #655
I'm just really frustrated with is case. So many adults surrounding this child and all of them so self evolved in their own lives and desires and wants that this 2 year old little girl hasn't been getting the love, support and attention she needs. No one has been putting Charlee first. They all say they love her but Mom picks a violent criminal to marry, which just about guarantees she'll never get custody of her child, the dad, I don't know what his story is but he's gotta be some kind of loser because he can't qualify for custody of his daughter and take care of her. Grandma is too busy partying like an aged rock star with her meth relatives to take care of this child. Grandpa seems to be the only one with any sense but he has to work to support everyone and doesn't have anyone reliable to do child care of this baby while he does.

No one is putting this child first. And she's the most needy and vulnerable. I get so disgusted with humanity sometimes.

Foster care is a nightmare and I'm afraid this is Charlee's future and life. I'm hoping for the best for her but I somehow lack enthusiasm she'll be okay. IMO
The best outcome for Charlee IMO is that the court removes her from her toxic home, terminates parental rights and she gets adopted by a family who will put her needs first.

Foster care may be Charlee's best chance of breaking the cycle set by mom and grandma, otherwise it's almost inevitable that she'll follow in their footsteps.

I think the sheriff will keep an eagle eye on Charlee regardless of what happens next; he seems to genuinely care about her. MOO.
 
  • #656
The best outcome for Charlee IMO is that the court removes her from her toxic home, terminates parental rights and she gets adopted by a family who will put her needs first.

Foster care may be Charlee's best chance of breaking the cycle set by mom and grandma, otherwise it's almost inevitable that she'll follow in their footsteps.

I think the sheriff will keep an eagle eye on Charlee regardless of what happens next; he seems to genuinely care about her. MOO.
In that long press conference yesterday someone mentioned - could have been the Sheriff or a reporter - that the paternal grandparents had filed for emergency custody. Don't know if that is what the Wednesday hearing will be about or not.
 
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  • #660
I wonder if she will wear the "Who Asked You" t-shirt?

When I saw her wearing that, all I could think of what was that's her preemptive strike against the onslaught of negativity that was sure to follow.
:D
 

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