KY KY - Crystal Rogers, 35, Bluegrass Parkway, 3 July 2015 #1

[krig101]

This makes no sense, and BH is going to find this a real problem IMO.

Starting in early evening and heading into night, Crystal's daughter, grandmother, mother, cousin, and apparently other folks were alerted to the fact that she was non-responsive via phone. They were worried enough to have begun the process of calling around looking for her by about 9:30 pm. Yet at midnight, she was supposedly safe at home, blithely playing games on her phone, without answering anyone to let them know she's fine?! It really stretches credibility.

I mean, I've sometimes had my phone off or not near me for a few hours, for whatever reason—but if I looked at it later only to find multiple texts from loved ones saying, "Trying to reach you...we're kinda worried..." Well, my courteous night-owl self might not call my morning-person mom if it was late at night, for fear of waking her, but I would call any friend/fam who might still be up, and I would damn sure send a "So sorry! I'm fine" text to everyone who had inquired after me!

I doubt she had control of her phone at midnight, and possibly not past 6 pm or whenever she got home that evening.

Ping locations would be interesting to know. The lack thereof, as well. If someone texted her at 9:30 pm, say, but her phone didn't ping a tower on her end, that indicates her phone was either off or out of service. (We know it wasn't destroyed, since it was found in her car.) Depending on the games, her apps and updates, plus texts or calls or any other incoming activity, pings can probably confirm whether or not her phone was even on at midnight, much less at home, as BH claims.


Sabrina is the cousin with whom Crystal sometimes stayed. So if Crystal HAD in fact been intending to visit her cousin late that night, due to a fight or a random whim, Sabrina seems to have been unaware of it. In this day and age with so much phone activity, if Crystal was leaving her home and heading to Sabrina's, it makes no sense for her not to call or text first.

It is interesting that BH brings Sabrina up as the probable overnight destination for the vanished Crystal, then Crystal's car was found on the parkway near the exit for her cousin (thank you again to jULIA_bEE for this significant info!). Sabrina had in fact already been alerted that people were looking for Crystal... but BH may have been unaware of that when he brought her up (Sabrina, that is).

I'm sorry if I'm repeating anything already said; I probably am. That's how it goes with these strange disappearances with no new info forthcoming. Your mind goes around and around like a squirrel in a cage.

Yes and also in an interview Crystal's sister said that Crystal would "never" go to her cousin's house without the baby. Or leave him with BF at all.

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[mom2chloe]

Two risk factors for violence against women are pregnancy amd leaving the relationship. Unfortunately I can see either of these being the case in Crystals's disppearance. Does anyone know if she was actually meeting someone about a rental she and/or Broooks were renting out or if she was possibly trying to rent a place of her own? Thanks in advance.

 

[lauriej]

Two risk factors for violence against women are pregnancy amd leaving the relationship. Unfortunately I can see either of these being the case in Crystals's disppearance. Does anyone know if she was actually meeting someone about a rental she and/or Broooks were renting out or if she was possibly trying to rent a place of her own? Thanks in advance.

--crystal's sister mentioned that he "would bring other women into the relationship". I think he was having an affair, wanted Crystal "disappeared" so he could keep his 2 year old son/not have to pay child support or share custody.

--I think "something" happened to her out at the family farm/or on the way home from it----with help from someone from the family farm. I don't believe she made it home at all to "play games on her phone"/while letting her 2 year old "run loose" until Brooks went to bed at midnight.

--although I have seen the info re: the BGParkway, it still amazes me that her car was out there until her Dad and brother found it at 5 p.m. Sunday. if "somebody" ditched it there late Friday night /early Saturday morning that's quite a length of time.

 

[SchoolgirlShamus]

Yeah. I think statement analysis is pretty much psuedo-science, but I think at its core, it teaches some good lessons about veracity.

That's almost precisely the way I would answer if asked for my opinions on SA: I think some of it is bs, but some of it is valuable and insightful.

I don't think Hyatt's maxims on "honestly" or "actually" fit the bill in every region's speech. Nor does "ma'am" etc. That is the NORM in the American South, and parts of the Midwest, and in the military. I'm not sure why he won't acknowledge that.

 

[GutInstinct]

There is an interesting new post on the 'help find crystal' facebook page. A post suggesting a certain location be searched. Does anyone understand this or give it any validity?

 

[GutInstinct]

fb page is pray for crystals safe return. post at 4 pm something

 

[krig101]

fb page is pray for crystals safe return. post at 4 pm something

Is she a psychic or something? That's my guess. If she knows something concrete she should call police.

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[GutInstinct]

on the part of all involved...except the victims of course. ugh...so similar to susan powell...josh powell...drew peterson.


As a team, WS interested members need to poke press, police, community, other sources to maintain vigilence ** we aren't going away.

 

[alexwood]

I don't get confused often so maybe I am reading into this transcript too much? I think I know the dynamics of the family and this conversation but if someone not following the story that closely and were to read these transcripts, it can get confusing. At the start NG introduces CR's parents using their full names Sh--- B. and To--- B. and then the transcript says...

S. BALLARD: Friday, her granddaughter contacted me and said she couldn`t get in touch with her.

Now is this SB person CR's mom or is it the niece of the mom/cousin of CR?? Or did CR's oldest daughter have a child making CR a grandmother? Because when she says on Friday her granddaughter contacted her, is she referring to CR's mom's granddaughter, CR's granddaughter or was she meaning to say "my" granddaughter or meaning to say her "daughter" and not granddaughter? Or was SB stating HER granddaughter meaning Sh--- B's granddaughter? All depending on who this SB person talking is? I assume this SB is suppose to be the same person as in the start of the interview because she states...

"So I texted my daughter and just told her that her daughter was trying to get in touch with her and to call her."

But I now think there is a 2nd SB in the interview, the mom and Ms B. So confusing thanks to NG.
Then what is this line?

GRACE: And Ms. Ballard, with me is Tommy and Sherry Ballard. This is Crystal`s mom and dad. When did it hit you she`s missing?

Is NG telling Ms. B that also on the line are CR's parents TB and SB? And I thought for sure I knew there was only 2 ppl involved in this conversation with NG...this makes it sounds like there are 3...so weird...thanks NG haha

So in summary I know that NG was talking to Ms.B, SB and TB and it sounds like CR's oldest daughter lived with her mom but was staying at the grandmother's that wknd but then SB then says the oldest daughter lives with her. Again, a little confusing how these ppl talk.

S. BALLARD: Right at that moment, I didn`t pay real big attention. A little bit, not a lot, because the kids were -- her oldest daughter that lived there with her was at her grandmother`s.

Was SB making this comment or does this sound like this is a comment referring to SB? Because then SB says the oldest daughter lives with HER.

S. BALLARD: During the week, at least probably every other day, if not every day because the kids, like her older daughter lives with me, so we`re constantly in contact. Not as much on the weekends.

Lastly what is up with this??

GRACE: You know, interesting, to Tommy and Sherry Ballard, when she was spotted that afternoon at Walmart, was she with anyone?

S. BALLARD: She had her two children with her.

GRACE: And where did they go that evening? Did they go with her to the apartment or did they, what?

S. BALLARD: She took her -- she took the kids to their dad`s house, to an apartment where they lived. They were spending their weekend with their dad.

GRACE: And then --

S. BALLARD: She may have had the baby with her, I`m not sure.

T. BALLARD: We really don`t know.

GRACE: So the Walmart video she revealed who was with her, but you believe she had two children with her. She was not in the company of someone else, correct?

S. BALLARD: No. Just her and the kids. She may have had the baby with her, I`m not sure.

GRACE: Now, who has the baby tonight?

T. BALLARD: The dad. Her boyfriend.

Wow...so first they say CR was with her 2 children at Walmart, then they say CR was with 2 children and MAYBE her baby but they are not sure...have SB and TB not talked with the 2 grandchildren in question to ask who was with them and her mother at Walmart, if their baby brother was also there or not?


I know this has much to do with nothing and apologize for the rant but it also gives a little insight as to how difficult it must be to investigate a complex case like this with half-brothers and sisters, multiple parents/guardians involved, how facts are told in confusing ways and at the time very little clarification or questions asked if answers seem muddled.

S.B. (I think) stated that Crystal's "oldest daughter" lived with Crystal, and that Crystal's "older daughter" lived with her (her = S.B.). The only clarification I can offer is that Crystal must have at least 3 daughters.

(I hope she's not pregnant.)

 

[krig101]

S.B. (I think) stated that Crystal's "oldest daughter" lived with Crystal, and that Crystal's "older daughter" lived with her (her = S.B.). The only clarification I can offer is that Crystal must have at least 3 daughters.

(I hope she's not pregnant.)

Pregnancy keeps nagging at me too. If so the similarities between this and her aunt in 79 are uncanny.

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[jULIA_bEE]

This makes no sense, and BH is going to find this a real problem IMO.

Starting in early evening and heading into night, Crystal's daughter, grandmother, mother, cousin, and apparently other folks were alerted to the fact that she was non-responsive via phone. They were worried enough to have begun the process of calling around looking for her by about 9:30 pm. Yet at midnight, she was supposedly safe at home, blithely playing games on her phone, without answering anyone to let them know she's fine?! It really stretches credibility.

I mean, I've sometimes had my phone off or not near me for a few hours, for whatever reason—but if I looked at it later only to find multiple texts from loved ones saying, "Trying to reach you...we're kinda worried..." Well, my courteous night-owl self might not call my morning-person mom if it was late at night, for fear of waking her, but I would call any friend/fam who might still be up, and I would damn sure send a "So sorry! I'm fine" text to everyone who had inquired after me!

I doubt she had control of her phone at midnight, and possibly not past 6 pm or whenever she got home that evening.

Ping locations would be interesting to know. The lack thereof, as well. If someone texted her at 9:30 pm, say, but her phone didn't ping a tower on her end, that indicates her phone was either off or out of service. (We know it wasn't destroyed, since it was found in her car.) Depending on the games, her apps and updates, plus texts or calls or any other incoming activity, pings can probably confirm whether or not her phone was even on at midnight, much less at home, as BH claims .

I forgot to mention this the other night. I hadn't really paid attention to it before but when I was taking a vid of the where her car was found, there's actually a cell tower right by where the car was.



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[Cardinal47]

--crystal's sister mentioned that he "would bring other women into the relationship". I think he was having an affair, wanted Crystal "disappeared" so he could keep his 2 year old son/not have to pay child support or share custody.

--I think "something" happened to her out at the family farm/or on the way home from it----with help from someone from the family farm. I don't believe she made it home at all to "play games on her phone"/while letting her 2 year old "run loose" until Brooks went to bed at midnight.

--although I have seen the info re: the BGParkway, it still amazes me that her car was out there until her Dad and brother found it at 5 p.m. Sunday. if "somebody" ditched it there late Friday night /early Saturday morning that's quite a length of time.

Interesting. I wonder if they left the family farm house but not the family farm. That family farm is acres and I am sure he is familiar with every inch of it. Maybe he slipped something in her drink before they left and the rest is history.

The car sitting there has always bothered me. Once they left the farm minus Crystal he could have stopped on the highway right where the car was found and call somebody to come and pick up him and the baby. Leave her things in the car and off they go. The part I don't get is what would he tell them happened to Crystal that she wasn't with him when they might have known they left the party together?

He could say she got mad and jumped out of the car and started walking and that's all he knows? But then they lie about playing the cell phone games at midnight would not fly unless somebody would cover for him.

I too think she was leaving or he wanted her gone and didn't want to give up the baby or the child support.

Another pregnancy is an interesting thought too. That would seal the deal on a big child support check every month and keep him tied up in court if he and his family wanted to see the children..grandchildren of BH and family.

 

[Spiritecho]

Random Theory that prob does not fit...but I'm throwing it out there just in case

What if she did go show a rental? To friends of the bf, and he met her there...something happened. He got some help, the baby, ditched the car, was taken back to the rental to retrieve his vehicle?

 

[EDGE1124]

Is she a psychic or something? That's my guess. If she knows something concrete she should call police.

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Someone on that FB page asked about a comment they read and asked if it was fact that BH poured a concrete slab the Monday after?

Then a lady responded saying she was the one who made that comment and she said her good friend's daughter is best friends with one of the daughters and either the woman's friend or friend's daughter mentioned this to her. This was discussed on July 19th.

Then July 20th a different women in the same conversation asks if BH owns some of the land out at Copperfield subdivision?...saying new homes are going up....then asked if anyone checked that area?

 

[GutInstinct]

One thing we can be fairly sure of given the bf's absolute lack of panic or interest in getting involved. Crystal is somewhere never to be found...like Susan Powell and others we've followed over the years. �� Her disappearance off the face of the earth was most likely very well planned out in advance and all tracks were covered ...and once the deed was done....sociopaths sit back and watch the show....knowing damn well the body will nevef be found nor will they have evidence to arrest. josh powell went free. drew peterson went free until arrested on a previous wife's murder after body exumed.

 

[GutInstinct]

and....and...perhaps the bf can say he is 100 percent innocent because he hired someone else to execute his deadly dead. jmo just thinkin .....

also thinking if the award$ were really high as in 1 million.....somebody just might start talking.

on another topic, there is a 3m award for leads to joaquin gomez...perhaps we should be sleuthing

 

[GutInstinct]

ps. sorry for typos. right hand in cast so typing with one finger...and not so well at that. thanks for understanding

 

[verbonica]

S.B. (I think) stated that Crystal's "oldest daughter" lived with Crystal, and that Crystal's "older daughter" lived with her (her = S.B.). The only clarification I can offer is that Crystal must have at least 3 daughters.

(I hope she's not pregnant.)

Here's how I see it:

Crystal's oldest daughter lives with her grandparents (Crystal's parents).

Crystal's next-oldest daughter is the oldest daughter living with Crystal.

(So, if, say, the oldest daughter is *14 and the next-oldest is *12, the 12-year-old would be the oldest daughter living with Crystal. The other kids are younger: girl, boy, & 2 yo boy. *I don't know if that's their ages, but just for example.)

Google Images for: "missing crystal rogers children kentucky CNN" and you'll see a family photo from a CNN video story.

Also, Mrs. Ballard's mother could certainly still be alive (say Crystal is 35, Mrs. B is 55, and Mrs. B's mom is 75?). Crystal could have been close with that grandmother.

 

[velmaAclue]

Walmart receipt confirms check out at 4:36 pm.
Next she brings two kids to their dads, then she brings son to BH. BH states on namcy grace she was at home 5:30. You mean to tell me she did all that in that time frame. Im thinking she never left the house she was showing. They need to look there for clues. That puts her car there (new house nails construction). Where was the rental located? This could explain why her daughter didnt get a reply at the 6 o clock tex

 

[jULIA_bEE]

Here's how I see it:

Crystal's oldest daughter lives with her grandparents (Crystal's parents).

Crystal's next-oldest daughter is the oldest daughter living with Crystal.

(So, if, say, the oldest daughter is *14 and the next-oldest is *12, the 12-year-old would be the oldest daughter living with Crystal. The other kids are younger: girl, boy, & 2 yo boy. *I don't know if that's their ages, but just for example.)

Google Images for: "missing crystal rogers children kentucky CNN" and you'll see a family photo from a CNN video story.

Also, Mrs. Ballard's mother could certainly still be alive (say Crystal is 35, Mrs. B is 55, and Mrs. B's mom is 75?). Crystal could have been close with that grandmother.

If I remember correctly, her mom had called crystals grandmother to see if she had heard from her and stated that they were very close. There are so many kids and people that it's hard to keep track of if you're reading the transcripts.


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