KY - Tiffanie Lucas,32, arrested after allegedly shooting her kids

[Elliot_Alderson]

This right here. I have seen quite a few troubling social media accounts where account owner posts repeatedly about gang stalking and some of it is just out there. It seems to be a trending psychological phenomenon. There is no reasoning with persons who are convinced there is a conspiracy against them by some shadowy unnamed group of "others".

I think you are right on the money with this. My first thought on reading about her concerns about wi-fi making her do things was "I'll bet she was one of those who think they are being gangstalked every time she goes to the grocery store"

Yep, 100%. It's actually really sad. For example, the reddit community has these rules about how you can't doubt peoples' gangstalking claims and all this jazz. When you read it the forums, it is like one giant echo chamber. Someone posts a claim that they are being stalked by any and everyone, and then there's 50 replies of people reinforcing the idea that they are actually being stalked. I'm not saying it's far fetched that an individual could be stalked by another individual, but a lot of these gangstalking claims are just not feasible. JMO

 

[tlcya]

Accused murderer Tiffanie Lucas looked stone-faced as she appeared in court charged with shooting dead her two young sons — infuriating relatives of the slain boys, including one hoping to see her “put to death.”
[snip]
“She just looks like she doesn’t have a care in the world,” one of the dead boy’s aunts, Bobbie Baker, told WAVE after the hearing.

“I think her sitting in jail for the rest of her life is a cakewalk,” she said of Lucas’ “unemotional” expression.

Ultimately, the only fitting penalty is “for her to be put to death,” the aunt said.
[snip]
Shortly after Maurice and Jayden were killed, Jayden’s older paternal half-brother claimed that several family members tried to alert authorities to their concerns about the children over the years.

“We wanted them. We would have taken them with open arms. We loved them so much,” Durrell Howell said at the time.
Tiffanie Lucas, mom accused of killing her 2 sons, ‘looks like she doesn’t have a care in the world’ in court: relative

 

[Kudzuu]

O.K. So the two murdered boys had different last names -- so they are half-brothers to each other. How is this adult brother, a brother to both boys? [I guess, perhaps, brother of one . . . half-brother of the other? Or? . . . ?]

Your question has been n answered but I wanted to add a cultural observation. Many in the black community do not call a sibling with one different parent a step sibling. If they share one same parent they simply say my brother or sister.

I once had a conversation with my partner's daughter that her 2 brother's and she all had different fathers therefore they were step brothers. She looked at me like I was stupid and said no they are my brothers.

I think white people in general are more in tune with such things.

I mean no offence it is just a cultural difference. We have many interesting conversations in my house about cultural differences! Especially about family and interpersonal relationships.

 

[Kudzuu]

Accused murderer Tiffanie Lucas looked stone-faced as she appeared in court charged with shooting dead her two young sons — infuriating relatives of the slain boys, including one hoping to see her “put to death.”
[snip]
“She just looks like she doesn’t have a care in the world,” one of the dead boy’s aunts, Bobbie Baker, told WAVE after the hearing.

“I think her sitting in jail for the rest of her life is a cakewalk,” she said of Lucas’ “unemotional” expression.

Ultimately, the only fitting penalty is “for her to be put to death,” the aunt said.
[snip]
Shortly after Maurice and Jayden were killed, Jayden’s older paternal half-brother claimed that several family members tried to alert authorities to their concerns about the children over the years.

“We wanted them. We would have taken them with open arms. We loved them so much,” Durrell Howell said at the time.
Tiffanie Lucas, mom accused of killing her 2 sons, ‘looks like she doesn’t have a care in the world’ in court: relative

I'll be surprised if she gets the death penalty here in Kentucky. IMO she had a mental issue brought on by drugs.

Kentucky rarely hands out the death penalty. If you look on death row the DP cases are pretty horrendous. But this being 2 children that may trigger eligibility for a harsher sentence.

 

[arielilane]

Video is 2+ minutes. TL is accused of shooting her two children, her plea is not guilty.
If TL is convicted, she is eligible for the death penalty. Her defense is unknown at this time.

@CourtTV

Tiffanie Lucas, the Kentucky mother accused of killing her two young sons, appeared in court for a status hearing with her new attorney, Richard Lawniczak. (1/8/24)

2:00 PM · Jan 14, 2024

Tiffanie Lucas Appears in Court with Public Defender

Tiffanie Lucas, the Kentucky mother accused of killing her two young sons, appeared in court for a status hearing with her new attorney, Richard Lawniczak. (1/8/24)

www.courttv.com

TIFFANIE LUCAS APPEARS IN COURT WITH PUBLIC DEFENDER​

Tiffanie Lucas, the Kentucky mother accused of killing her two young sons, appeared in court for a status hearing with her new attorney, Richard Lawniczak. (1/8/24)

 

[arielilane]

Detective testifies Bullitt County mom charged with murdering 2 young sons said it was an 'accident'​

Tiffanie Lucas walked into the Bullitt County courthouse in handcuffs and an orange jumpsuit for the hearing. Lucas is charged with two counts of murder after police said a neighbor found her two sons — 6-year-old Maurice Baker Jr. and 9-year-old Jayden Howard — shot inside Lucas' home on Bentwood Drive in Bullitt County last week.Both boys were rushed with a police escort to Norton Children's Hospital in downtown Louisville, where they died from their injuries.

Bullitt County woman charged with killing her 2 children held on $2 million bond​

Tiffanie Lucas, 32, remained silent during her court appearance on video Thursday morning.

 

[arielilane]

Video is less than a minute.

Previously, police said Tiffanie Lucas called what she did was "a mistake", and that she was manipulated into killing the boys, and influenced by the internet.

Bullitt Co. mother accused of killing her sons has new attorney

Previously, police said Tiffanie Lucas called what she did was "a mistake", and that she was manipulated into killing the boys, and influenced by the internet.

www.whas11.com

Updated: 12:22 PM EST January 8, 2024

 

[JoeFromLB]

Expressionless...dead eyes.
No appreciation of the horror of her act.
IMO, this woman is insane.

 

[arielilane]

Lucas is scheduled to be back in court on March 18. That's when Taylor said a trial date is expected to be set.


Bullitt County mom charged with killing her 2 sons appears in court for status hearing

Updated Jan 8, 2024

 

[arielilane]

Any updates?

 

[Bounceycat]

Bullitt County mother in Kentucky seeks insanity defense after charged in killing of 2 kids

A Kentucky mother from Bullitt County charged with killing her two sons is planning to use an insanity

www.courier-journal.com

According to court records obtained by The Courier Journal, Bullitt County's Tiffanie Lucas is charged with two counts of murder and a notice was filed on Sept. 11 stating she will use a "defense of insanity" when appearing in trial on Dec. 17.

 

[Bounceycat]

Family doubts mental health claims of Bullitt County mom charged with murder of young sons

Tiffanie Lucas is scheduled to go to trial in December for allegedly killing her two young sons.

www.wdrb.com

According to the court document, "... the defense intends to assert a defense of insanity at the time of the alleged offense" but there was not a request to evaluate Lucas' competency for standing trial.

In July, conversations in the courtroom centered on mediation, which meant the possibility of some kind of plea deal being reached in the case, but Baker reiterated Tuesday that's not something her family wants.

"I hope it goes to trial. I want it to. She doesn't deserve a plea deal," said Baker.

 

[Bounceycat]

Ky. Mom Accused of Killing Her 2 Kids Said It Was 'Accident.' She's Also Claiming Something Else

Ky. Mom Accused of Killing Her 2 Kids Said It Was 'Stupid' Accident. Now She's Claiming Something Else

people.com

A motion filed in Bullitt Circuit Court on Wednesday, Sept. 11, said the defense attorney for Tiffanie Lucas plans to "assert a defense of insanity at the time of the alleged offense."

According to the motion obtained by PEOPLE, the defense also intends "to introduce at trial expert evidence relating to a mental disease, mental defect, or other mental condition bearing in the issue of guilt and the issue of punishment."

 

[arielilane]

After a change of plea hearing expected last week ended up delayed, a 33-year-old Kentucky woman appeared in court Wednesday and pleaded guilty to murdering her two sons, ages 6 and 9, by shooting them in the head at home, bringing an official end to her claim that she was “legally insane” at the time.

'Monster' mom abandons 'legally insane' defense, admits to shocking murders of 2 young sons

A mother who shot her two young sons, ages 6 and 9, in the head in a bedroom at home appeared in court and formally pleaded guilty to murder, officially ending her insanity claim.

lawandcrime.com

Oct 23rd, 2024, 1:03 pm

 

[arielilane]

From the L&C article linked above:
The parties then agreed that sentencing will occur at 9 a.m. on Nov. 22.



Court tv article

'You have been selfish': Killer mom Tiffanie Lucas sentenced

Applause was heard in the courtroom after Tiffanie Lucas was sentenced to two life terms for murdering her young sons.

www.courttv.com

11/22/2024

Kentucky mother Tiffanie Lucas was sentenced to two life terms in prison after pleading guilty to shooting and killing her sons, ages 6 and 9.

SHEPHERDSVILLE, Ky. (Court TV) — A courtroom erupted into applause after a judge sentenced a Kentucky woman who admitted to murdering her two young sons to two life sentences.

 

[JoeFromLB]

Are these sentences consecutive and is parole a possibility down the line?

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1861486158036742505

 

[JoeFromLB]

from the Daily Mail article:
"She was sentenced to two consecutive life terms after the fatal shooting of her sons."

 

[sunspun]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1861486158036742505

What were her 4 words?

 

[JoeFromLB]

What were her 4 words?

"I love my children."