Kyron Horman General Discussion thread 2023 - 2026

[Diddian]

Does anyone know if LE ever searched the property that was Kyron's home before he disappeared?

I am so far only midway through Thread #7, but in Thread #6, a post dated June 9, 2010 (and several posts subsequent to that one) indicated that at a LE press conference, when asked whether a search warrant had been issued for the property or a search had been conducted, the sheriff said that no search warrant had been issued and, "They have not searched the family's property."

Did they EVER search it? And if so, what was the extent of that search?

 

[minazoe]

I didn't recall a search or dig, but come on...you have to search the home don't you? I'm trying to remember...I think a search was initiated from the point where he was last seen, at the school. it never occurred to me they didn't look under every rock for Kyron...literally every rock.I think it must be a challenge in Portland because it is so verdant, things just grow overnight and over everything.
it's not just a tightly packed forested place but it's quite literally a jungle. other areas push out into huge spans of lakes and darkly lit and lightly populated towns ( used to be anyway).
The logging areas wind up and down and it's all very precarious to navigate, not the straight paths of the mid west. It's very beautiful but there is a negative energy there...the ocean is overwhelming
and the mountains and waterfalls are life changing experiences, yet I think because it is a port town
it has that transient feeling there.

a small childs body in the open wouldn't last long in all the rain and wildlife. it would quickly be consumed. Birds would circle and out there they know to follow the birds to find death. It could very well be that Terri knows this and buried the child somewhere...it's not far fetched. I can see that scenario.

But here's my question, why would DDS help her? why? is she another sociopath? why would anyone get involved in something so heinous? was she promised money? I still hang on. this scenario because I'm trying to see how she gets help with this murder. mOO

 

[Alleykins]

I'm fairly certain investigators searched the home, according to this timeline posted on the MCSO site. Of course, a lot of the original news articles are no longer, so I can't cite how extensive the search at the home was, or if they scoured the surrounding woods. I recall they did, but I'm going from memory.

 

[Diddian]

I'm fairly certain investigators searched the home, according to this timeline posted on the MCSO site. Of course, a lot of the original news articles are no longer, so I can't cite how extensive the search at the home was, or if they scoured the surrounding woods. I recall they did, but I'm going from memory.

Thank you for your reply and the link to the timeline at MCSO site as well as relating what you recall.

I've been reading Rebecca Morris's book, Boy Missing: The Search for Kyron Horman, which seems fairly well-researched. The book states that the Horman place was searched multiple times, including with dogs.

 

[minazoe]

Thank you for your reply and the link to the timeline at MCSO site as well as relating what you recall.

I've been reading Rebecca Morris's book, Boy Missing: The Search for Kyron Horman, which seems fairly well-researched. The book states that the Horman place was searched multiple times, including with dogs.

Yes, I read this book a long time ago, I also remember seeing photos inside the house, Kyrons room etc. thanks for the memory jog!

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“As we approach the 15th anniversary of Kyron Horman’s disappearance, I want to reaffirm my continued commitment to this case,” Multnomah County District Attorney Nathan Vasquez said, per KOIN. “My office has begun a thorough and methodical review of the case with fresh eyes, and we look forward to receiving further analysis from the Sheriff’s Office and the FBI. Our focus remains where it has always belonged — on Kyron and his family.”

FBI to Re-Examine Kyron Horman’s Unsolved Disappearance

Earlier this month, Oregon police said they are revisiting the unsolved 2010 disappearance of a 7-year-old boy. Kyron Horman vanished from Skyline Elementary School in Portland after a science fair in the morning. KOIN reported that he was last seen with his stepmother, who said she dropped him...

www.crimeonline.com

 

[mom2chloe]

I was not a Websleuths member back when Kyron went missing and only loosely followed the story in news reports. I started going through the threads about this case but only got through thread #4 before skipping ahead to the threads covering 2020-2022. So, please forgive me if I’m asking a question covered already.

I noticed in the divorce settlement that Terri got the Mustang and Kaine the 2005 pickup as well as “the John Deere tractor.” It doesn’t specify tractor size or capability.

Was that tractor capable of excavating? And then refilling? Was Terri capable of operating it? And if not her, was the friend who was missing during the same hours Terri was capable of operating it? Did the Hormans have a trailer for transporting the tractor? (ETA: was the tractor sophisticated enough to have telematics?)

I remember Terri saying she hired a landscaper on the sly because she believed Kaine wanted too much yard work out of her older son who ultimately moved to live with her parents. What kind of extensive clearing or other yard work was being done? Did LE search the Horman property?…not just a ground search, but a search for areas recently dug?

This might explain why she needed the truck the day he disappeared. She needed to haul the tractor. Would be interesting to know if she had previously borrowed the truck.

 

[Knox]

This might explain why she needed the truck the day he disappeared. She needed to haul the tractor. Would be interesting to know if she had previously borrowed the truck.

I hate to see this go down the wrong path, so pointing out there is zero evidence pointing to Terri pulling a loaded trailer anywhere that day.

It has been stated many times that it was unusual for her to use Kaine’s truck. She primarily drove her red mustang. Which by the way, would have been very unsuitable for driving on old logging roads off of Hwy 30. MOO.

 

[minazoe]

This might explain why she needed the truck the day he disappeared. She needed to haul the tractor. Would be interesting to know if she had previously borrowed the truck.

you would think digging a hole somewhere would be too obvious and get you caught..except out there you might be able to blend in because there is a lot of earthmoving going there all the time.
it's kinda of necessary to maintain things. it's a very damp place anywhere near the coast..building , logging, re-enforcing inclines, roads..yards..agriculture, logging...you get my drift. Hmmm...that is so suss...I wonder about this a lot now..surely they checked out the tractor rental? mOO

 

[minazoe]

you think someone couldn't do this...but look at another pageant queen..Lori Vallow-Daybell. interesting isn't it? Body building pageants for Terri you would never think of Lori as a killer if you had dinner with her, would you..? even their names are similar. She even got someone to dig a hole for children.
mOO

 

[Knox]

“As we approach the 15th anniversary of Kyron Horman’s disappearance, I want to reaffirm my continued commitment to this case,” Multnomah County District Attorney Nathan Vasquez said, per KOIN. “My office has begun a thorough and methodical review of the case with fresh eyes, and we look forward to receiving further analysis from the Sheriff’s Office and the FBI. Our focus remains where it has always belonged — on Kyron and his family.”

FBI to Re-Examine Kyron Horman’s Unsolved Disappearance

Earlier this month, Oregon police said they are revisiting the unsolved 2010 disappearance of a 7-year-old boy. Kyron Horman vanished from Skyline Elementary School in Portland after a science fair in the morning. KOIN reported that he was last seen with his stepmother, who said she dropped him...

www.crimeonline.com

His last sentence has a double meaning for me. Despite the largest investigation in the state of Oregon’s history. Fifteen years later, no other POI has been announced. I hope DA Vasquez follows through on his commitment to Kyron.

The impact of the Casey Anthony verdict back in 2010, supposedly affected this case as well. Hopefully this new DA finds a way to file charges and actually prosecute.

 

[Maat99]

you would think digging a hole somewhere would be too obvious and get you caught..except out there you might be able to blend in because there is a lot of earthmoving going there all the time.
it's kinda of necessary to maintain things. it's a very damp place anywhere near the coast..building , logging, re-enforcing inclines, roads..yards..agriculture, logging...you get my drift. Hmmm...that is so suss...I wonder about this a lot now..surely they checked out the tractor rental? mOO

But also 75% of Multnomah county is forest. You wouldn’t need a tractor to hide anything and it would even make it harder since much of the forest land would be impossible to navigate with a tractor. You can see in this aerial image how densely forested much of the land between Skyline Elementary and Sauvie Island is. Not to mention, the Willamette river and other waterways are also right there. Fresh digging with a tractor would be easily spotted as compared to finding anything in the forests in and around Portland. Jmo

 

[minazoe]

But also 75% of Multnomah county is forest. You wouldn’t need a tractor to hide anything and it would even make it harder since much of the forest land would be impossible to navigate with a tractor. You can see in this aerial image how densely forested much of the land between Skyline Elementary and Sauvie Island is. Not to mention, the Willamette river and other waterways are also right there. Fresh digging with a tractor would be easily spotted as compared to finding anything in the forests in and around Portland. Jmo
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this is true, yes on this..it's very interesting..it is all very weird. I have a friend who has a great deal of property there. what if the tractor was something like a root digger? I don't know my tractor varieties..mOO

adding..she was missing for quite some time unaccounted for...and can't say where she went driving.

 

[Maat99]

this is true, yes on this..it's very interesting..it is all very weird. I have a friend who has a great deal of property there. what if the tractor was something like a root digger? I don't know my tractor varieties..mOO

adding..she was missing for quite some time unaccounted for...and can't say where she went driving.

Idk - ask your friend to verify - but my observation is that the forests here aren’t flat land with trees. There are generally ravines, gullies, ledges, erosion with steep drops etc. all densely populated with giant trees. You couldn’t just drive any large anything very far in without clearing the land first.

 

[minazoe]

Matt the logging areas go up the sides of the mountains there, Mount Hood etc..it is not flatland it is almost vertical in some areas. but there are other areas too. and there are some clearings depending where you are. It is a rainforest and Multnomah Falls are magnificent.

 

[Diddian]

you would think digging a hole somewhere would be too obvious and get you caught..except out there you might be able to blend in because there is a lot of earthmoving going there all the time.
it's kinda of necessary to maintain things. it's a very damp place anywhere near the coast..building , logging, re-enforcing inclines, roads..yards..agriculture, logging...you get my drift. Hmmm...that is so suss...I wonder about this a lot now..surely they checked out the tractor rental? mOO

I'm curious why you say "tractor rental?"

The Hormans owned a John Deere tractor. Kaine was awarded that tractor (along with the pickup) in the property settlement of his divorce from Terri. Terri got the red mustang.

Judge finalizes divorce between Kaine and Terri Horman

{p}The move is the latest development in the ongoing legal wrangling between the father and stepmother of Kyron Horman, who disappeared from his Northwest Portland elementary school in June 2010.{/p}

katu.com

 

[Bethlamb16]

I have followed this case since the beginning and it is the case that brought me to Websleuths. My son was the same age as Kyron when this happened and he was doing his science fair project so it hit very close to home. I was just recently visiting family and went to Skyline Elementary. While I know a lot of things point to Terri being involved, I don't think she took him from the school. I think either she had a plan with someone or it was an opportunity that presented itself to a pedophile. I do think law enforcement focused on only one person too soon. When I recently visited the school to me it seemed like it could have been the perfect storm of opportunity for someone to grab him. There was no sign in for visitors and all were welcome. There is a lot of property and not a lot of houses around. I think if it wasn't planned it very well could have been an opportunity for an abduction. It is all very said and I hold out hope that they find Kyron one of these days.

 

[Boxer]

I hate to see this go down the wrong path, so pointing out there is zero evidence pointing to Terri pulling a loaded trailer anywhere that day.

It has been stated many times that it was unusual for her to use Kaine’s truck. She primarily drove her red mustang. Which by the way, would have been very unsuitable for driving on old logging roads off of Hwy 30. MOO.

Exactly. Not just their quasi person of interest, but any evil person could hide anything from humans along those roads in the forest duff, it would be almost fool proof.
I hope they walked dogs along every possible route. If they didn't, they still should with a second look, as dogs can find civil war dead.

 

[Knox]

I have followed this case since the beginning and it is the case that brought me to Websleuths. My son was the same age as Kyron when this happened and he was doing his science fair project so it hit very close to home. I was just recently visiting family and went to Skyline Elementary. While I know a lot of things point to Terri being involved, I don't think she took him from the school. I think either she had a plan with someone or it was an opportunity that presented itself to a pedophile. I do think law enforcement focused on only one person too soon. When I recently visited the school to me it seemed like it could have been the perfect storm of opportunity for someone to grab him. There was no sign in for visitors and all were welcome. There is a lot of property and not a lot of houses around. I think if it wasn't planned it very well could have been an opportunity for an abduction. It is all very said and I hold out hope that they find Kyron one of these days.

Curious about when the abduction could have occurred. I need to go back and refresh my memory. I remember she Terri she watched him walk towards his classroom?

Was he walking to another floor? Was it only steps away on the same floor?

 

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