Kyron Horman's stepmother is a profile in contradictions....

[human]

1. Would I want Terri to be my child's teacher?-no

2. Would I let Terri babysit my child?-no

3. Would I want Terri to be my DIL?-no

4. Would I have Terri as a friend?-no

She scares the ---- out of me.

 

[PDXMom]

There is interesting sentence in the article that no post has yet mentioned,

"I've never seen Kaine cry until Kyron went missing," James said, adding that his mother was hysterical.

Given the context, I assume Jxxxs is refering to Terri - rather than his step-mom Angela. This is the first indication we have that Terri reacted with intense emotion to Kyron's disappearance. I put more faith in Jxxx's portrayal of his mother's emotional state than I do that from Desiree, who accused Terri of having "ice in her veins."

Oh, I took that as Kyron's mother being hysterical, as he had just referred to Kyron's dad. That's ambiguous, isn't it?

 

[Emma Peel]

LOL-ing @ post similarities here. Unplanned. Great minds and all that. :highfive:

 

[cluciano63]

I doubt there is ever one reason or version as to why a teenage boy might move out of his mother and stepfather's home. My nephew did this for a while when he was 16 or so; he chafed at stepdad's rules, was not doing well in school, etc. No one interrogated my sister as to why he left. He eventually came back, as his mom's home was far more comfortable and his dad was working two jobs and was seldom home. Terri's son sounds as well-adjusted as any child of divorce who has been uprooted due to marriages, divorces, etc.

 

[eyes4crime]

LOL-ing @ post similarities here. Unplanned. Great minds and all that. :highfive:

Well come on now Emma, you know we got together here in Chicago for a Starbucks and planned our comments! :biggrin:

Have a great day and let's all hope we hear something regarding missing Kyron - let's have justice for Kyron.! Maybe this weekend will give us some new info. :yes:

 

[PDXMom]

There are so many single women raising small children, working full time, attending college, maintaining a household, with very little support at all.

My hat's off to them. I know how hard it is. I did it.

Thank you so much. I'm doing it now and it is brutally difficult at times....

 

[Emma Peel]

1. Would I want Terri to be my child's teacher?-no

2. Would I let Terri babysit my child?-no

3. Would I want Terri to be my DIL?-no

4. Would I have Terri as a friend?-no

She scares the ---- out of me.

Answering as if BEFORE Kyron disappeared:

1. Experience preferred in a teacher. Had a couple of first year teachers though and they were just fabulous...

2. I don't know about babysitting, but I might let my child have a play date with Kyron at his house after school with his mom (Terri) supervising, and see if my child had a nice time or not.

3. Probably not.

4. Probably not.

5. Would I want my husband working out with her at the gym? - lol!
Not worried about it.

She doesn't scare me. Then again, I'm pretty assertive myself.

 

[matou]

I am a teacher (high school) and if I had to deal with a parent as pushy as Terri, I would flip. She seems to be what I call the "parent from hell". Why want constant updates about Kyron's behavior? She seems obsessive to me and way too controlling.

"She was venting about the teacher and why she should have her job," Desiree said,

I wonder if the teacher had notes written up about Terri specifically and did this way before June 4th. Kyron's teacher seems to be very responsible and reasonable. Calling home when there is a problem with behavior is the expectation. To give daily updates is fanatical. Terri seemed jealous of this teacher, and remember, she said this teacher was NEW and insinuated that she was inexperienced as a teacher. I have to wonder why it was so hard for Terri to find a teaching job? She had a teaching degree since 2000 and got her Master's in 2003. A Master's should guarantee a permanent position in teaching. I wonder if she had any practice teaching while she was earning her degrees and her ratings from her supervisors were not that great. JMO.

 

[Herding Cats]

Not commenting to anyone in particular, but I did want to remind everyone that no one took J away from his bio-dad. His bio-dad had rights, and only with him severing them could there be an adoption by Mr. Tarver. Bio-dad had to choose to sever the rights...TH didn't "take" them. She can't...nor could she force someone else to adopt. Same thing.

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Herding Cats

 

[SuziQ]

Oh, I took that as Kyron's mother being hysterical, as he had just referred to Kyron's dad. That's ambiguous, isn't it?

I finding that a problem with many articles recently. It's hard for me to post an opinion or thought when you don't know exactly what the author is trying to say.

 

[21merc7]

Just what are the contradictions in Terri?

I see a woman who wanted a loving relationship, yet all she found was 'unfounded' love. She was misinterpreted and misunderstood as evidenced by her x MIL who felt there was ulterior motives for flowers and poems.

She has a history of unfortunate and untimely experiences such as the accident that left her with a pinched nerve and migraines.

She used her misfortune to get an education. She turned carp into roses.

Terri has an obvious love of children so why she didn't get a teaching job after a masters is beyond me. Her marriage to Kaine seemed unfortunate for both, for everyone.

What are the big contradictions - A thread of sadness and misfortune runs through her life; unfortunate and untimely relationships; the obstacles are numerous, so maybe Terri learned to retreat rather than fight. For me, not a single thing points toward Terri being a murderous psychopath.moo

What was the motive? Guess I'm not seeing what others see and those who deem her guilty may not be seeing what I'm seeing. moo

Guess it's all in the eyes of the beholder. :waitasec:

All just my opinions and all that stuff!!

This is exactly how I see it, you said it better than my fumbling, jumbling words could. Thank you!

 

[human]

I don't know where I read it, but is was stated somewhere (maybe rumor) that the school wanted Terri to bring K to the doctor.

A child does not have persistent issues unless there is a problem. Terri should know that as a teacher with a Master's degree for goodness sake.

What the problem is, who knows. But children are not demon seeds, even though they may seem like it at times.

Kyron needed an evaluation to see what was up to rule out any medical or learning issues. Maybe Terri did not want him to actually go to the doctor for some reason.

 

[miabellamoure]

Background articles such as this are certainly interesting, but they are also frustrating.

Is Terri really a profile in contradictons?

Or are some people in her past thinking of something, anything they saw in Terri to reconcile Terri's current situation. e.g. Oh, yes, she killed my bookcase - so - she could have easily killed her son Kyron. (just to pull an example provided in the article)

And some people confirm that nothing they ever witnessed would lead them to believe Terri would harm her child, or any child.

Is it Terri that's contradictory, or is it people's selective recollections - some offering positive, some negative, some offering both - that are contradictory?

Are we even looking for past behavior patterns - I mean, can't a person just quickly change in response to current stressors and just snap?

Kaine & Desiree & J were closest to Kyron & Terri. I care about their anecdotes, because I think they were in a position to evaluate changes in Terri and to know about Kyron's life with Terri. For me, it's important to remember that while they sensed and experienced Terri's emotional ups & downs - they never believed Kyron was in danger.

I note that J, her son, who was there the first weekend says until Kyron disappeared, he'd never seen Kaine cry, and that his mother was absolutely hysterical. (IIRC, that's the first time we'd heard of Terri's more immediate reaction to Kyron's disappearance...)

Side note - It would be nice to know the straight story on why J moved. It seems there are 3 versions. It's beginning to sound like James wanted to move as much as anyone - as if he was of an age where he was ready to spend more time with his bio-dad (after summers with bio-dad). Maybe he could pursue the horse interest easier with bio-dad.

All I get from the article - as far as Terri's profile in contradiction - is confirmation of what I'd already expected Terri's personality to be like. Smart, charming, pushy, self-disciplined, a little self-centered, with some history of disposable relationships and a judgement problem or two.

I know plenty of people like Terri. They are just not in Terri's situation. And I don't expect they ever will be.

I don't think we've learned much related to Kyron's disappearance from this article. We have learned a little about Kyron, and more about the blended family and the timeline of the family relationships - some of that was quite helpful.

We've not learned much about recent the Kaine/Terri dynamic. A little, perhaps. So far, sounds like normal marital issues that folks have. Interesting that Kyron's father officiated at the bathing suit marriage. That's different, anyway. LOL.

I guess I'm still waiting for shoes to drop - when maybe there are none.

Where's Kyron? The article didn't tell me that. Did they forget to ask?

JMHO.

bbm

I guess to know that they would have had to speak with Terri...she was the last to be seen with Kyron and I believe she knows that answer...

 

[SuziQ]

Highly doubt Kyron was blind, certainly his other parents would have noticed that.

The article says Terri taught him sign language to enhance his ability to communicate. I wouldn't have any more coffee over that one. moo

lol, the way I posted does sound like I meant Kyron was blind. After more coffee and reading other posts, I now understand how sign language can be beneficial for many reasons.

 

[For The Kids]

Not commenting to anyone in particular, but I did want to remind everyone that no one took J away from his bio-dad. His bio-dad had rights, and only with him severing them could there be an adoption by Mr. Tarver. Bio-dad had to choose to sever the rights...TH didn't "take" them. She can't...nor could she force someone else to adopt. Same thing.

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Herding Cats

IIRC Terri accused the first husband of having a horrible illness that he " miraculously " recovered from. Maybe as much as he loved his son he didnt want to have any contact with her at all so agreed to let husband number 2 adopt.

 

[21merc7]

I don't know where I read it, but is was stated somewhere (maybe rumor) that the school wanted Terri to bring K to the doctor.

A child does not have persistent issues unless there is a problem. Terri should know that as a teacher with a Master's degree for goodness sake.

What the problem is, who knows. But children are not demon seeds, even though they may seem like it at times.

Kyron needed an evaluation to see what was up to rule out any medical or learning issues. Maybe Terri did not want him to actually go to the doctor for some reason.

I don't see it that way. She was doing what she could, she even taught him sign language. That indicates she may have worried not only about vision, but hearing. She also was worried about him spacing out, and, it has been said, not sure if reported, she did set an appointment for him to be checked for possible seizure activity, not big seizure, but the little mind ones that do not kill you, just space you. So, I think she was doing what she could, all she could.

ETA: Also, the learning to sign language, my daughter and I had our own special language for times of distress that no one else knew. Just us, we still use it as endearing.

 

[mydailyopinions]

I don't know where I read it, but is was stated somewhere (maybe rumor) that the school wanted Terri to bring K to the doctor.

A child does not have persistent issues unless there is a problem. Terri should know that as a teacher with a Master's degree for goodness sake.

What the problem is, who knows. But children are not demon seeds, even though they may seem like it at times.

Kyron needed an evaluation to see what was up to rule out any medical or learning issues. Maybe Terri did not want him to actually go to the doctor for some reason.

Too, my understanding from the emails that we have been able to read, Terri claimed Kyron had been having these "mini" whatevers for 2 weeks.. Why did she wait until the day before he went missing to make the appointment?

 

[mydailyopinions]

I don't see it that way. She was doing what she could, she even taught him sign language. That indicates she may have worried not only about vision, but hearing. She also was worried about him spacing out, and, it has been said, not sure if reported, she did set an appointment for him to be checked for possible seizure activity, not big seizure, but the little mind ones that do not kill you, just space you. So, I think she was doing what she could, all she could.

JMHO,
If she thought he was having any kind of seizures, knowing this baby had to go to school daily, she would not have waited 2 weeks to get an appointment for him. I just can't see it.

 

[For The Kids]

I don't see it that way. She was doing what she could, she even taught him sign language. That indicates she may have worried not only about vision, but hearing. She also was worried about him spacing out, and, it has been said, not sure if reported, she did set an appointment for him to be checked for possible seizure activity, not big seizure, but the little mind ones that do not kill you, just space you. So, I think she was doing what she could, all she could.

Is there any evidence by anyone other than the email that Kyron was even spacing out? And for that matter has it been confirmed there was even a Drs appointment about it?

 

[21merc7]

JMHO,
If she thought he was having any kind of seizures, knowing this baby had to go to school daily, she would not have waited 2 weeks to get an appointment for him. I just can't see it.

You get the appointment with the specialist when you can. He was not in danger, it was a suggestion by his regular doctor, not a diagnosis, a referral.

Also, the learning to sign language, my daughter and I had our own special language for times of distress that no one else knew. Just us, we still use it as endearing.