LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #1

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I'm digging through march, April, and may news articles and crime reports in a local paper looking for any info about Hillary
 
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I posted in a diff thread a few days ago to someone who was having a really hard time with one specific case, and i said .... i think at some point it all comes to a head and we lose it on one case....I think this is mine. My DD is 21, has tattoos and piercings all over, maybe smokes an illegal substance now and then, and works in a bar.....I hope to hell someone would give a **** if she turned up missing, despite her choice of artistic expression or any other life choice!

I have already (on numerous occasions) let the BF know that I know things far worse than death to anyone who harms one of my kids...trust me, he knows it to be true!

:rocker: AMEN!!!
 
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There is zero information. How can that be? Why was this death so completely dismissed? If the present scenario hadn't played out so dramatically, we'd never have known.

Is this the community to take up the issue of the Ignored Missing? Is there a better place?

None of us is so firmly planted in any social position that a half step couldn't push us into the marginalized zone.

Missing children of color are my personal great concern. Of all of the Ignored Missing, what is sadder than a child no one notices is gone? What child deserves that? It's shameful.

(questions are rhetorical, btw)
If she lived in NOLA and was found murdered, I would have received an alert. The other possibility is that there were no obvious signs of foul play, and her death appeared to be a suicide or OD.
 
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i don't think it's always that people "care" more about one girl over another. it seems like some families drum up the media and get together search teams etc while other families don't do this. they let the police do the job alone. i feel like the families and friends have to really shake things up in order to get coverage. once they get that coverage, then the public is interested and it grows from there. it's the initial "shake em' up" that is so important

I disagree, I have seen MANY cases where family has tried to get the media interested in their loved ones cases. Both missing and unsolved murders. Stephanie Lowe for one. Her poor Mom tried to raise money for a reward fund and well ... I think it's at $2,500 today. Her case is on WS, take a look at it. Her Father gave a heart rending interview, he searched a river for his "little girl" for weeks, all alone in a boat.

Not jumping on you justwannahelp, just frustrated with the ugliness in the world tonight.
 
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If she lived in NOLA and was found murdered, I would have received an alert. The other possibility is that there were no obvious signs of foul play, and her death appeared to be a suicide or OD.

Sweetly1 definitely said murdered.

It's tough to tell from where I am.

Even if she died of natural causes, if she wasn't found for a time, wouldn't that make the news?



I've read entirely too many posts this past week. Maybe I need a nap.
 
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While the association between Hillary Moulder and Jaren Lockhart is certainly disturbing, I think that people should be very cautious in referring to Moulder as a murder victim.

Her death was no doubt tragic, but I do find it a bit hard to believe that a homicide victim would garner no media or police attention whatsoever, especially in this day and age.

Someone who knows both her and Jaren, stated she was murdered?
 
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I disagree, I have seen MANY cases where family has tried to get the media interested in their loved ones cases. Both missing and unsolved murders. Stephanie Lowe for one. Her poor Mom tried to raise money for a reward fund and well ... I think it's at $2,500 today. Her case is on WS, take a look at it. Her Father gave a heart rending interview, he searched a river for his "little girl" for weeks, all alone in a boat.

Not jumping on you justwannahelp, just frustrated with the ugliness in the world tonight.

Also, I was not referring to the MSM per se, but more like here on WS as an example of where money and family pull doesnt have a say
 
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No matter of cover up or what not, all the media I could find from here in MI has been notified to look into the similarities
 
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While the association between Hillary Moulder and Jaren Lockhart is certainly disturbing, I think that people should be very cautious in referring to Moulder as a murder victim.

Her death was no doubt tragic, but I do find it a bit hard to believe that a homicide victim would garner no media or police attention whatsoever, especially in this day and age.

BBM.
Maybe the coroner thinks she OD'd? I read earlier that her body was badly decomposed. Would decomposition make it more dificult to determine if a person was strangled, or smothered with a pillow?
And does anyone know if drugs stay in your system after you've decomposed?
What I'm wondering is, if she was murdered, but the coroner could find no cause of death, would they look at her substance abuse history, and just assume she OD'd and close her case?
 
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BBM.
Maybe the coroner thinks she OD'd? I read earlier that her body was badly decomposed. Would decomposition make it more dificult to determine if a person was strangled, or smothered with a pillow?
And does anyone know if drugs stay in your system after you've decomposed?
What I'm wondering is, if she was murdered, but the coroner could find no cause of death, would they look at her substance abuse history, and just assume she OD'd and close her case?

And if the coroner didnt come out and say suicide or OD as COD then anything is possible! Just because there wasn't media coverage doesnt mean jack $#$^ perhaps they learned she was a dancer or maybe she was a single mom, or maybe she did drugs, and it wasnt a very "sexy" case to cover

ETA: sorry phb, this looks like its directed at you which its not! its just thinking out loud about what someone said about dont jump to conclusions that she was murdered and so forth
 
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I disagree, I have seen MANY cases where family has tried to get the media interested in their loved ones cases. Both missing and unsolved murders. Stephanie Lowe for one. Her poor Mom tried to raise money for a reward fund and well ... I think it's at $2,500 today. Her case is on WS, take a look at it. Her Father gave a heart rending interview, he searched a river for his "little girl" for weeks, all alone in a boat.

Not jumping on you justwannahelp, just frustrated with the ugliness in the world tonight.

I see it both ways. My hubby and I were just discussing this. I got super involved in Mickey Shunick's case, since she was a local, so I was out searching, volunteering, posting flyers, etc. He had a former co-worker who was the victim of a hit and run about one month before MS went missing, and got next to no media coverage and NO answers from LE. A major street, lined with businesses, and his family was told, NO cameras were pointed in the right direction, sorry. I tried to tell my hubby that Mickey was fortunate enough to have such a huge network being that she was a college student--tons of support from there, gave horse riding lessons--tons more support from there, she was a hipster/bicyclist--tons more support there. Her friends and family FORCED the story out into MSM and social media. If every person was so lucky to have such a huge support system, maybe they could all have justice. I assumed that his family didn't have such connections. They claim they tried and were ignored. Not sure if they could afford to hire a P.I. and they didn't have any fundraisers to help with the cause. That is so, so very sad. I am so drained from MS's case, but I would love to try and help his family out with some suggestions. Now, of course it's not the same b/c they actually had his body to bury, whereas MS's family doesn't. But everyone deserves closure AND answers. I find it heartbreaking that some never get either :(
 
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Ok I emailed WDSU, WWLTV, KATCTV, WLOX, AND FOX8NEWS gave em all these links and said look into similarities between Hillary and Jaren - I hope it helps!!
I emailed WDSU, WWLTV and NOLA.com too with what little info is available and suggested they might want to look into it. Maybe they'll take interest after hearing from more than one person. Hoping they will follow up.
 
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BBM.
Maybe the coroner thinks she OD'd? I read earlier that her body was badly decomposed. Would decomposition make it more dificult to determine if a person was strangled, or smothered with a pillow?
And does anyone know if drugs stay in your system after you've decomposed?
What I'm wondering is, if she was murdered, but the coroner could find no cause of death, would they look at her substance abuse history, and just assume she OD'd and close her case?

bbm: sounds extremely horrible, but I'm sure it happens :(
 
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Even if she died of natural causes, if she wasn't found for a time, wouldn't that make the news?

Not necessarily. I'm aware of a few people who had been passed away for a few days before anyone discovered them, and as there were no signs of foul play (or evidence pointing against foul play), their deaths were kept quiet. No conspiracies involved- just a matter of respect for the dead and their families.
 
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While the association between Hillary Moulder and Jaren Lockhart is certainly disturbing, I think that people should be very cautious in referring to Moulder as a murder victim.

Her death was no doubt tragic, but I do find it a bit hard to believe that a homicide victim would garner no media or police attention whatsoever, especially in this day and age.

All due respect, I live in Michigan, where 2 of the top 3 deadliest cities to live reside, and trust me, we don't hear about most of the murders. The media reports what it wants to, ie if its a child in a drive by (which weve had 2 this week alone) or some other attention grabber.

Have you heard of Kalisha Madden? http://www.blackyouthproject.com/20...re-is-media-coverage-of-black-missing-persons

MI MI - Kalisha Madden, 27, Detroit, 27 Nov 2011 - Page 2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


In media eyes, not too newsworthy as they found out after running her story in early days then nothing since!
 
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Sweetly1 definitely said murdered.

It's tough to tell from where I am.

Even if she died of natural causes, if she wasn't found for a time, wouldn't that make the news?



I've read entirely too many posts this past week. Maybe I need a nap.
Probably not. Sadly, those cases aren't uncommon. But if LE investigated it as a crime, I'm sure there would have been media coverage, and I'm certain I would have received a real time alert. No doubt. But, if it were later ruled a homicide, maybe not.

ETA: And if she were reported missing, the NOPD would have released a bulletin about that, too. I received three of them regarding Jaren's disappearance.
 
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Have you heard of Kalisha Madden?

...In media eyes, not too newsworthy as they found out after running her story in early days then nothing since!

Whether or not I've personally heard of Kalisha Madden, an internet search reveals a large number of articles with quotes from law enforcement officials regarding her case. The issue in relation to Hillary Moulder isn't whether or not her case is widely-known, it's whether or not it's acknowledged as a murder.
 
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