GUILTY LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #5

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QUESTION:
According to this link, Jaren was last seen alive leaving the club with Sanchez and Speaks at about 1a.m. Is it confirmed that that was the time she left with them?? I'm just curious BC for some reason I was thinking it was closer to 2:30 or 3:00 a.m.

Can somebody clarify for me the actual time she left Temptations with these two?

Just trying to get the facts straight....BC if she did in fact leave the club about 1 as opposed to the time I was thinking she left...this gave these two a heck of a lot more time than I had originally thought!

THX!
LADYBUGZ

My head tilted too when I read the 1AM time. I recall it being later - 1:47AM or something close to that time. Not sure if that was the time they left the club or were last seen on the street. Iirc they were tracked up and until they turned a corner to?? - get into a car??

I remember the time because it was very close to the time when Mickey S. was caught on camera while heading home on her bike in Lafayette.

Anyway, the time was never stated to be as early as 1AM before.
 
  • #242
New to this site, TS has many names and faces across the US. FBI crimes against children JWB looks exactly like TS and around the time federal marshals lost sight of him in PA this guy shows up in RI. Maybe a stretch but not a very far one, plus 4 women show up dead on a beach in that area. Am I grasping at straws???

Is JWB the "J" guy?
I'm confused
 
  • #243
No contest. Just giving credit where credit was due.

I snipped the name in the quote because family members who have not been named in MSM are off limits. We can link to MSM and public records without posting the names here.

LE has ID'd the suspect as Terry Christopher Speaks from North Carolina. We've seen his rap sheet with DOB and addresses in Mount Airy and Pilot Mountain. If LE is satisfied with the information then I see no reason to question it. I don't assume that the website is 100% accurate, but if you follow through from there you'll find that the links connect.

I accept all of the above but, because the media could track down the mother and get her to make a comment, that makes her fair game for investigation. Why didn't they track down the father too? Neither one of them are theoretically responsible for TS's alleged crime/s.
If the mother is held responsible, then so should the father. :moo:
 
  • #244
I was on the most wanted site for the FBI and in the crimes against children page and James William Bell is wanted and looks Just like TS.

The age is different, the hair is also. But look at the eyes, that left nostrail, and lips, I think it's a dead ringer

Is JWB the "J" guy?

No, I don't think it's the 'J' guy. It's this guy below.
Doesn't TCS have blue eyes? Don't ask me because two of TCS's mugshots look so different from one another.
I don't know what's going on (except LE said that they id'd him through fingerprints). Here's the guy in question ~

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cac/james-william-bell/view

If a guy is wanted by the FBI, I'm sure it's okay to post his wanted poster here too.
 
  • #245
I accept all of the above but, because the media could track down the mother and get her to make a comment, that makes her fair game for investigation. Why didn't they track down the father too? Neither one of them are theoretically responsible for TS's alleged crime/s.
If the mother is held responsible, then so should the father. :moo:

The mother remarried some time back. We don't know if the father was ever in the picture when TCS was growing up.
 
  • #246
I don't think it's unreasonable to want answers, and to follow leads, however vague etc. Process of elimination, cover all the bases. You are doing the best you can in an awful situation, and we are here to help.

My heart to your family.

I went to your fb and did not see any status. I would really like to do research on this guy, but I do need that last name.

ME TOO!!!! all I have been doing is sitting on this computer cuz im supposed to be on bedrest!!!! Need something to do cuz im getting bored....That name would be nice to get J/S :maddening:
 
  • #247
No, I don't think it's the 'J' guy. It's this guy below.
Doesn't TCS have blue eyes? Don't ask me because two of TCS's mugshots look so different from one another.
I don't know what's going on (except LE said that they id'd him through fingerprints). Here's the guy in question ~

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/cac/james-william-bell/view

If a guy is wanted by the FBI, I'm sure it's okay to post his wanted poster here too.

TY this dosnt look like TS to me in any of his mugshots...J/s
No wonder you didnt think it was the J guy...
but there is no way that the J guy is TS in my mind anyway right everyone or is that in question as well
 
  • #248
TY this dosnt look like TS to me in any of his mugshots...J/s
No wonder you didnt think it was the J guy...
but there is no way that the J guy is TS in my mind anyway right everyone or is that in question as well

I do not think that the J guy is TS. If he was then Hillary's family would have come out and said that. Pretty sure it was stated that the J guy found Hillary. I do question if TS or MAS knows this J guy. I did not catch J's last name earlier so not sure who he is but pretty sure it is a known fact they are different men ( I use this term lightly).


MODs is there any place where we can make a thread of Hillary so we do not get any info confused. I personally would like to read more about Hillary and lost where to find articles about her. The only ones Im finding are mainly about her family joining with Jaren's family with the pray vigils. With a one line about her being found in the tub.
 
  • #249
Ok to clarify, and by all means correct me if I am wrong, but there are two 'J' guys.

One is on FBI's wanted list and has nothing to do with the case other than someone thought he looked like TS. He is NOT the guy who discovered HM.

The 'J' who discovered HM is the guy with the warehouse/morgue set up. He is the guy that HM's family has concerns about.
 
  • #250
The mother remarried some time back. We don't know if the father was ever in the picture when TCS was growing up.

True. But why give TS his same name then?
That indicates to me that he started out in the picture.

Nobody wants to hear me up on my soapbox about this issue.
I'm sure I'd just pizz another million people off because I believe there is a right and there is a wrong.
 
  • #251
TY this dosnt look like TS to me in any of his mugshots...J/s
No wonder you didnt think it was the J guy...
but there is no way that the J guy is TS in my mind anyway right everyone or is that in question as well

I think someone wonders if TS may be the same guy whose name is James who is wanted by the FBI.
Although TS looks like the same type as the FBI guy (just like me and Marilyn Monroe, lol!), I don't think they're the same person.

'J' from Nola is an unknown. I have no clue who he is.

"Dogs never bite me. Just humans." ~ Marilyn Monroe
 
  • #252
The 'J' y'all are speaking of still goes into Temptation's, and still makes a bee line for the clique that Jaren had started running with in the last few months.

He was the first person that came to mind when I heard that she had disappeared.
 
  • #253
I do not think that the J guy is TS. If he was then Hillary's family would have come out and said that. Pretty sure it was stated that the J guy found Hillary. I do question if TS or MAS knows this J guy. I did not catch J's last name earlier so not sure who he is but pretty sure it is a known fact they are different men ( I use this term lightly).


MODs is there any place where we can make a thread of Hillary so we do not get any info confused. I personally would like to read more about Hillary and lost where to find articles about her. The only ones Im finding are mainly about her family joining with Jaren's family with the pray vigils. With a one line about her being found in the tub.
We cannot start a thread without a LE report or MSM article. So far, searches have turned up nothing. It seems LE considered the death a suicide or an OD, and no press release was issued. But if you should find one, by all means, please post it.
 
  • #254
We cannot start a thread without a LE report or MSM article. So far, searches have turned up nothing. It seems LE considered the death a suicide or an OD, and no press release was issued. But if you should find one, by all means, please post it.

Bessie, remove this if there is some reason that it should not be posted. I know the statement are not coming from LE and are statements from Hillary's family so not sure if this meets the criteria.

It is frustrating that there is so little to find about Hillary's death. I found this article (link below) about the vigil held for Jaren and Hillary in which Hillary's sister described Hillary's death and the fact that the case is still open and that LE is simply is not interested in pursuing it. NOPD is overwhelmed with cases and their murder rate is hundreds each year, many of which are unsolved.

Hillary's sister had this to say about her sister's death ""When my sister died, no one really listened to us."
"The case is still open, but the police just stopped investigating."
"Hillary's body was found in the bathtub of her apartment. There were missing items such as her cell phone, and someone had turned the thermostat in the room up to 85 degrees, accelerating decay."
"It's very suspicious, how she passed away,"

Hillary's sister said they don't believe the suspects in Jaren's death killed Hillary, although the cases may be related.
"We actually think it was someone else," she said. "We just hope the police really decide to look back into her case and get us some answers."We know my sister's case was a murder."
http://12.68.233.230/40/article_6033.shtml

Then there is also mention of Hillary's case in this article as well.
http://12.68.233.230/40/article_6032.shtml

"Grannan said Hancock investigators are also looking into the matter of 26-year-old Pearlington resident Hillary Moulders' death in March, but even though Hillary and Jaren were friends, "we don't have any connection between the two deaths that we think is credible.
Hillary's case is still officially open, but her family members believe the New Orleans Police Department has written her off as a drug-related death rather than as a murder.
"We're actually looking for someone right now to interview for that," Grannan said."

I would love to see the police do something with this case, even if it was just to address it and state that it is an open case and that the death was suspicious and state the cause of death. The case seems stalled and LE seems content to have it that way rather than have it as an unsolved murder. Sad but that is often how the New Orleans PD operates. Frustrating and infuriating!
 
  • #255
The ladies at a dancer website I frequent said (regarding Hillary) that they don't understand how they can 'lean towards' suicide when a woman is found with slashed wrists and a slashed neck, with no blade or glass near her body, when she had told her friend she was out escourting, and that her purse was missing.

Is that true? If so, wth is going on here?
 
  • #256
The ladies at a dancer website I frequent said (regarding Hillary) that they don't understand how they can 'lean towards' suicide when a woman is found with slashed wrists and a slashed neck, with no blade or glass near her body, when she had told her friend she was out escourting, and that her purse was missing.

Is that true? If so, wth is going on here?

This sounds like the Angela Ball case they were referring to and not Hillary Moulder.

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/suicidexx.html

I think her case was mentioned in an earlier thread.
 
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The 'J' y'all are speaking of still goes into Temptation's, and still makes a bee line for the clique that Jaren had started running with in the last few months.

He was the first person that came to mind when I heard that she had disappeared.

Well, my guess would be that LE knows who he is and has probably already talked with him.....But to my knowledge there is no known documentation of him being questioned by LE.....Correct?

Has anyone found documentation of any sort with this person being brought up? I'm figuring all we have is hearsay but hearsay from pretty reliable sources which is causing us to really wonder about this person....
Correct or no??

I really wish we could find something in documents mentioning this person but I have yet to find anything at all....

I know we can't post links on this person but can anyone say that they have read anything on this person from LE or media reports???? Or anything??
 
  • #259
The ladies at a dancer website I frequent said (regarding Hillary) that they don't understand how they can 'lean towards' suicide when a woman is found with slashed wrists and a slashed neck, with no blade or glass near her body, when she had told her friend she was out escourting, and that her purse was missing.

Is that true? If so, wth is going on here?

Wasn't this Angela or Andrea Ball??? (forgive me if I'm wrong IRCR the first name exactly)! I believe she had four children from three different relationships...I think the facts of just about EVERYTHING are being mish-mashed together and people including myself are being confused on quite a few different subjects here.......
:banghead:
 
  • #260
The ladies at a dancer website I frequent said (regarding Hillary) that they don't understand how they can 'lean towards' suicide when a woman is found with slashed wrists and a slashed neck, with no blade or glass near her body, when she had told her friend she was out escourting, and that her purse was missing.

Is that true? If so, wth is going on here?

can you post the link of the dancer website in which you are referring to? I would like to read some of the things on there...if you don't mind...
TY
 
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