GUILTY LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #6

[reedus23]

Don't feel too bad, it is very confusing..... but I think Bessie is right,
there were two locations called Hog(g)'s.

Perhaps this will help you:
Please read MAS's comment about Zack & Addie on this weblink:
http://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/adriane-addie-hall-murder-100506/
By: Margaret on January 4, 2007 at 7:49 pm

(She's basically saying that she did work with Zack & Addie at Hog's)
Perhaps MAS is spelling the name of the bar wrong or maybe she's not! :banghead:

Her first post establishes she worked with Zack and Addie. Her second post gives some insight into MAS if you ask me. She speaks just as glowingly of Zach as she does Addie.

yall had your problems. who doesnt. you both were still some of the best people i knew.

Problems? Understatement of understatements. Still some of the best people she knew? I understand if addressed to Addie, but Zach?!?!?! He did about the most unthinkable to a human being. The way in which she can just gloss over what Zach did says something about MAS if you ask me.

 

[typically-a-reader]

Don't feel too bad, it is very confusing..... but I think Bessie is right,
there were two locations called Hog(g)'s.

Perhaps this will help you:
Please read MAS's comment about Zack & Addie on this weblink:
http://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2006/10/20/adriane-addie-hall-murder-100506/
By: Margaret on January 4, 2007 at 7:49 pm

(She's basically saying that she did work with Zack & Addie at Hog's)
Perhaps MAS is spelling the name of the bar wrong or maybe she's not! :banghead:

Now, I see. (I think) Addie worked there MAS joined her and then Zack joined in.

There is no way she just happens to be "friends" with TWO murdered and dismembered NOLA girls.
What are the odds? Seriously, I wonder what the odds really are?

 

[typically-a-reader]

Her first post establishes she worked with Zack and Addie. Her second post gives some insight into MAS if you ask me. She speaks just as glowingly of Zach as she does Addie.



Problems? Understatement of understatements. Still some of the best people she knew? I understand if addressed to Addie, but Zach?!?!?! He did about the most unthinkable to a human being. The way in which she can just gloss over what Zach did says something about MAS if you ask me.

One would think that when she seen the video of her on the news in connection with Jaren's disappearance she would have turned herself in immediately to clear her name. Even IF she couldn't remember anything. If she was innocent.
But no, she dyed her hair and hid out at her friends house under the guise of being evicted.

 

[Clodumbo]

Her first post establishes she worked with Zack and Addie. Her second post gives some insight into MAS if you ask me. She speaks just as glowingly of Zach as she does Addie.



Problems? Understatement of understatements. Still some of the best people she knew? I understand if addressed to Addie, but Zach?!?!?! He did about the most unthinkable to a human being. The way in which she can just gloss over what Zach did says something about MAS if you ask me.

Not really, MAS and others were close to Zack too. He was a very popular guy with a lot of demons. One particular part of the “Final Witness TV Show” that was so chilling, was when MAS was describing what she had imagined what Zack was thinking. "He just snapped," she said. "What am I going to do to get rid of the body? That would be anybody's first thought; How do I fix this?"

Does this sound familiar? Perhaps MAS was Zack’s protégée. I guess she just snapped too? Yeah, we all have problems. But, when you mix booze and dangerous drugs – you have even more problems! I think that is what happened in both of these tragic stories.

All of this can be explained if MAS or TS would only tell the truth or we can just wait patiently for the results of the FBI Lab. Either way, I hope that justice will prevail.

Here’s a link to the Zack and Addie Story. Please keep in mind that it’s heavily edited. But, perhaps it will bring you up to date.

http://blog.nola.com/tpcrimearchive/2006/10/boyfriend_cut_up_corpse_cooked.html

 

[Ms. Shagwell]

as a nawlins girl i recall only 1 hoggs.

As college students in the late 80s-early 90s, we spent many weekends at the Hog's Breath in the 300 block of Chartres around the corner from Melius's and the Wildlife and Fisheries Bldg. There was a dance club upstairs from the Hog's Breath called LaBoucherie (sp?). It was popular during the end of the new wave craze. I guess the scene had really changed by the time Addie and MAS started working there in 2002-2005.

As strange as it is, we also went to the Artist's Cafe to see friends' bands play there. It was aways a weird hangout for college kids who weren't hanging out with strippers or heavy drug users on any other occasions. The other Hoggs in the 100 block would have been around the corner from the Artist's Cafe. Oddly, one of the links Bessie posted shows the Gold Club being close to this Hoggs. Jaren listed the Gold Club as one of her favorites on one of her pages. So many coincidences linking MAS to too many victims of dismemberment to not make charges on some degree of guilt by association.

 

[reedus23]

Not really, MAS and others were close to Zack too. He was a very popular guy with a lot of demons. One particular part of the “Final Witness TV Show” that was so chilling, was when MAS was describing what she had imagined what Zack was thinking. "He just snapped," she said. "What am I going to do to get rid of the body? That would be anybody's first thought; How do I fix this?"

Does this sound familiar? Perhaps MAS was Zack’s protégée. I guess she just snapped too? Yeah, we all have problems. But, when you mix booze and dangerous drugs – you have even more problems! I think that is what happened in both of these tragic stories.

All of this can be explained if MAS or TS would only tell the truth or we can just wait patiently for the results of the FBI Lab. Either way, I hope that justice will prevail.

Here’s a link to the Zack and Addie Story. Please keep in mind that it’s heavily edited. But, perhaps it will bring you up to date.

http://blog.nola.com/tpcrimearchive/2006/10/boyfriend_cut_up_corpse_cooked.html

All I'm saying is that even if it were my brother that did something so heinous I wouldn't be making statements in public about how wonderful of a person he is while completely ignoring what he did. Yes, I can understand a statement of "He seemed like such a wonderful person, I just don't understand what drove him to do this." But that's not how I read that second post of hers. To me, she's glossing over a dismemberment as if they guy was just involved in a car accident and didn't dismember another human being. To me, that tells me she doesn't have much of a problem with it or maybe even doing it herself.

 

[bessie]

As college students in the late 80s-early 90s, we spent many weekends at the Hog's Breath in the 300 block of Chartres around the corner from Melius's and the Wildlife and Fisheries Bldg. There was a dance club upstairs from the Hog's Breath called LaBoucherie (sp?). It was popular during the end of the new wave craze. I guess the scene had really changed by the time Addie and MAS started working there in 2002-2005.

As strange as it is, we also went to the Artist's Cafe to see friends' bands play there. It was aways a weird hangout for college kids who weren't hanging out with strippers or heavy drug users on any other occasions. The other Hoggs in the 100 block would have been around the corner from the Artist's Cafe. Oddly, one of the links Bessie posted shows the Gold Club being close to this Hoggs. Jaren listed the Gold Club as one of her favorites on one of her pages. So many coincidences linking MAS to too many victims of dismemberment to not make charges on some degree of guilt by association.

"LaBouche" as we called it, was quite popular way back in the '70s. Melius, too. (Now I've gone and dated myself. LOL)

I've almost reached the conclusion that none of the parties worked at the The Hog's Breath. IIRC, the Gambit article is the only source which has Addie working at THB, and that article also references it as the same place Zack worked, which I believe is pretty obviously Hogg's based on Ethan Brown's description in Shake the Devil Off. I think Ronnie Virgets inadvertently named the wrong place, and Brown (and MAS) added to the confusion by leaving off a "g" at the end of Hogg's. At any rate, I also believe MAS exaggerated her relationship with AH and ZB. JMO, but I think what we heard in the Final Witness was a lot of "hogwash".

Oh yeah, and if she has so much admiration for her dear friend Zack, she should take a cue from him and own up to what she's done. JMO

 

[bessie]

One would think that when she seen the video of her on the news in connection with Jaren's disappearance she would have turned herself in immediately to clear her name. Even IF she couldn't remember anything. If she was innocent.
But no, she dyed her hair and hid out at her friends house under the guise of being evicted.

Exactly!! :cheers:

 

[friendofthecourt]

Yeah, i already researched that Hogg's and Hog's Breath thing. They were two separate places on the same street and pretty close to each other. MAS did say she met Addie at Hog's (She said that in some blog the "Shake the Devil Off" author had running before he wrote the book. Myself and I think one other members of this forum wrote the author to ask why he never used MAS in his book. I'm interested in why he decided her knowledge served no purpose for him. Did he find out she knew little about Addie or that they weren't friends? He didn't write us back. What a snob

 

[typically-a-reader]

Yeah, i already researched that Hogg's and Hog's Breath thing. They were two separate places on the same street and pretty close to each other. MAS did say she met Addie at Hog's (She said that in some blog the "Shake the Devil Off" author had running before he wrote the book. Myself and I think one other members of this forum wrote the author to ask why he never used MAS in his book. I'm interested in why he decided her knowledge served no purpose for him. Did he find out she knew little about Addie or that they weren't friends? He didn't write us back. What a snob

man, I really wish he would have written back!

 

[Clodumbo]

Yeah, i already researched that Hogg's and Hog's Breath thing. They were two separate places on the same street and pretty close to each other. MAS did say she met Addie at Hog's (She said that in some blog the "Shake the Devil Off" author had running before he wrote the book. Myself and I think one other members of this forum wrote the author to ask why he never used MAS in his book. I'm interested in why he decided her knowledge served no purpose for him. Did he find out she knew little about Addie or that they weren't friends? He didn't write us back. What a snob

You may find this interesting, but Ethan Brown was lisited as a "friend" of MAS on her Facebook. He did not write back to me either.

 

[typically-a-reader]

You may find this interesting, but Ethan Brown was lisited as a "friend" of MAS on her Facebook. He did not write back to me either.

yes, very much so, and I also find her new profile picture choice to be interesting as well. I believe it is trying to state she is family and christian orientated, if you ask me. You know the opposite of what you would think a killer would be! Another mask to cover a mask, does she remember what she is covering to begin with?

 

[2LuckyDogs]

yes, very much so, and I also find her new profile picture choice to be interesting as well. I believe it is trying to state she is family and christian orientated, if you ask me. You know the opposite of what you would think a killer would be! Another mask to cover a mask, does she remember what she is covering to begin with?

The photo appears to be in rememberance of a family member who passed. While scanning the obits last week I ran across names I recalled from her facebook page. Family oriented maybe?? Christian oriented NOT!!

 

[75Scout]

I used to bartend at Sneaky Pete's, which used to be Hogg's. I worked there long after all this drama, after Katrina, etc. I was told many times by customers about Addie and Zack, and how they had both worked there. I have since been told by a former co-worker that MAS worked there, too, albeit briefly.

It's also possible that Addie worked at both Hogg's and Hog's Breath, theorectically, at the same or different times. When I used to bartend, I would pick up shifts at a few different bars, it's pretty normal to do.

 

[reedus23]

"LaBouche" as we called it, was quite popular way back in the '70s. Melius, too. (Now I've gone and dated myself. LOL)

I've almost reached the conclusion that none of the parties worked at the The Hog's Breath. IIRC, the Gambit article is the only source which has Addie working at THB, and that article also references it as the same place Zack worked, which I believe is pretty obviously Hogg's based on Ethan Brown's description in Shake the Devil Off. I think Ronnie Virgets inadvertently named the wrong place, and Brown (and MAS) added to the confusion by leaving off a "g" at the end of Hogg's. At any rate, I also believe MAS exaggerated her relationship with AH and ZB. JMO, but I think what we heard in the Final Witness was a lot of "hogwash".

Oh yeah, and if she has so much admiration for her dear friend Zack, she should take a cue from him and own up to what she's done. JMO

I agree and to me that is almost scarier than if she did just know them really well. She is almost creating this fantasy world and unfortunately part of that fantasy world involves romanticizing and glorifying dismembering people.

 

[reedus23]

Exactly!! :cheers:

Or even before that when Jaren's name was released and she never thought to stop and tell LE "Hey! I know her and me and TS were with her." I think an innocent person would have told LE that much so they can narrow their search. It would also, presumably, give LE another place to inquire if they were innocent. (i.e. We dropped her off at McDonald's...then LE could pull tape and question people at McDonald's). JMO on a very hypothetical scenario.

 

[reedus23]

The photo appears to be in rememberance of a family member who passed. While scanning the obits last week I ran across names I recalled from her facebook page. Family oriented maybe?? Christian oriented NOT!!

Self oriented? Definitely!!!! JMHO

 

[Donjeta]

Justthefactsmam was communicating with her via Facebook. She told him she had food poisoning that night and doesn't remember anything about that night.
I just checked her Facebook status and she is currently wrapped up in a pity party. I am hoping that people are giving her a hard time about Jaren and that she can't escape her newly found notoriety. She is quite brave going to the Quarter. Her face sticks out like a sore thumb. Maybe just maybe she doesn't have as many friends as she thought she had.

Her Mr Wonderful (TS) is thankfully locked up so now she is truly alone. Until we get justice for Jaren, I hope the walls are closing in on MAS and that she feels terribly isolated from the world. Justice comes in many forms. I'd like to believe this is phase one for her from a higher being with only more to come.

What kind of a food poisoning causes amnesia?

 

[typically-a-reader]

What kind of a food poisoning causes amnesia?

exactly!

 

[MrsBungi]

This is in response to MAS claiming that she can't remember what happened that night because of food poisoning.
IMO this is bull because MAS can remember going to Temptations to ask the managers girlfriend to watch her dog right?
So why can't MAS remember leaving with Jaren or what happened after they left?
She can remember arriving and why she was there but doesn't remember anything else!!??
Lucky for us MAS is failing miserably at covering her tail.
Her story seems to be changing faster than my 5 year old changes clothes....which he does 4 or 5 times a day!!!
IMO LE is documenting all of this and ALL of it will be used against her.
I bet she is thinking that they got away with it but I'm willing to bet everything that I own that her "perfect" little "Christian" world will soon be shattered!!
She has tried to manipulate everyone around her but her stories are inconsistent and her actions are speaking way louder than anything that is coming out of her mouth!
And speaking of her newly found Christianity I thought she claimed to be Wiccan!!???

So which one are you Margaret a Christian or Wiccan?
Did the Wicca way fit with the people you were hanging around at the time?
Let me ask you this as well did you find Jesus before or after you killed Jaren?