GUILTY LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #6

[typically-a-reader]

However, TS was working next door from Temptations at Stiletto's Cabaret. Surely he knew Jaren. That's probably why she was chosen, because they could easily approach her. Jaren probably thought that she could trust TS and MAS. It turns out that she was wrong!

Side note - In the Charles Atwood murders, Atwood and his girlfriend were looking for girls in bars & clubs to "party" with. The outcome was very grim for their victims. He was also from Kenner, LA

It's very hard to find information about the Atwood Murders.

I agree with you about Jaren thinking she could trust TS and MAS b/c they were familiar.

I have started looking at the Atwood Murders, it is hard to find a lot on that! Any suggestions?

 

[Clodumbo]

I agree with you about Jaren thinking she could trust TS and MAS b/c they were familiar.

I have started looking at the Atwood Murders, it is hard to find a lot on that! Any suggestions?

You can look at old news articles on this case on the internet. (BTW-Atwood's girlfriend is out of jail.) I have tried to get a transcript of this murder trial through some connections, but I was told that I would have to have a "personal connection" to this case and I would have to pay a lot of money to get it. But, this article should give you a start. We have mentioned this several times on this forum, if you look at some of the past postings. We did a lot of research on this. Perhaps you can find more information? Good luck!

Scroll down to "Dancer owns up in grisly killing", 10/22/2003
http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=290596&sid=a727e455da962a843427b70eab92dee8

I hope this helps! :detective:

 

[SwampMama]

thanks for the info!
I was wondering if she had it in her to stay at "that" house again! You know the house where her "friend" Jaren used to come over. Or "that" place she shared with her love TS.
I wonder if she is still claiming memory loss due to food poisoning. Is that even possible? Has anyone else ever claimed to have memory loss due to food poisoning?

From what I understand her uncles own the house (along with her father?? IDK) as it was their mother's house (MAS's grandmother). It isn't in a desirable area because it is so close to the airport so I don't know if they could sell it. It doesn't look like it is rented out. Based on her facebook posting back in the spring, there were other people staying there with her and she was having problems with items going missing from her place.

As for her "food poisoning" claim. Any bout I ever had with food poisoning was something NEVER to be forgotten. Allow me to go briefly to the land of TMI and bring forth a memory of a bout of food poisoning I had in the 80's in Alaska. I had some bad vegetable soup and the projectile vomiting was so bad that I blew a chunk of carrot through my nose. Yeah, that was really TMI (and hopefully some comic relief) but it was funny in retrospect. and quite memorable. Food poisoning doesn't usually cause amnesia, in fact it has quite the opposite effect.

I admit I am getting impatient and wanting something to happen with this case. But I also want everything to be done right so I am doing my best to be patient. So I take a deep breath and just say to myself 'there will be justice for Jaren, there will be justice for Jaren, J4J, J4J"

 

[typically-a-reader]

You can look at old news articles on this case on the internet. (BTW-Atwood's girlfriend is out of jail.) I have tried to get a transcript of this murder trial through some connections, but I was told that I would have to have a "personal connection" to this case and I would have to pay a lot of money to get it. But, this article should give you a start. We have mentioned this several times on this forum, if you look at some of the past postings. We did a lot of research on this. Perhaps you can find more information? Good luck!

Scroll down to "Dancer owns up in grisly killing", 10/22/2003
http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=290596&sid=a727e455da962a843427b70eab92dee8

I hope this helps! :detective:

thanks!

 

[reedus23]

I am sorry to be so sensitive about this case. I’m glad to see that DTL was brought to justice. This was a hard case to figure out, until a Zachary, LA cop figured it out. It was amazing that he eluded the police as long as he did. He definitely terrified the community around here.

I think if you are looking for a case that is similar, please look into the Charles Atwood murders too.

Clodumbo, I didn't take it as being too sensitive at all. I was just giving the meaning I took from her/his post. I am truly sorry to hear you knew anyone victimized by that dirt bag. Good thoughts about looking at the Atwood murders when trying to get ideas on what to look for. J4J

 

[reedus23]

I want to explore this memory loss claim a little. Do we know what she has claimed to have eaten that night?
Did she have any other symptoms?
Did she seek treatment?
If no, why not?

So far the only thing I see that can cause sudden short term memory loss is: Atlantic Mussel Food Poisoning

Atlantic mussel food poisoning is of sudden short-term memory loss. According to the Wrong Diagnosis website, a person can develop sudden memory problems induced by food poisoning after eating this type of mussel. Other symptoms include diarrhea, vomiting and headaches. Some people may even develop long-term memory loss as well.

Help me out. Where did we learn that she's claiming memory loss due to food poisoning? Was that something she put out there herself, maybe on facebook? TIA

 

[reedus23]

You can look at old news articles on this case on the internet. (BTW-Atwood's girlfriend is out of jail.) I have tried to get a transcript of this murder trial through some connections, but I was told that I would have to have a "personal connection" to this case and I would have to pay a lot of money to get it. But, this article should give you a start. We have mentioned this several times on this forum, if you look at some of the past postings. We did a lot of research on this. Perhaps you can find more information? Good luck!

Scroll down to "Dancer owns up in grisly killing", 10/22/2003
http://www.forteantimes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=290596&sid=a727e455da962a843427b70eab92dee8

I hope this helps! :detective:

I don't know about the law in LA, but trial transcripts should be public record. You shouldn't need a "personal connection". Of course, LA may have a unique law that does require it. Having said that, yes, they can be very expensive. Very typically they will cost $100's if not $1000's. They typically charge by the page, so it kind of depends on how long the trial is too. You should be able to request just portions of it too if you don't want, for example, the portion involving jury selection or questioning a non-essential witness.

 

[typically-a-reader]

From what I understand her uncles own the house (along with her father?? IDK) as it was their mother's house (MAS's grandmother). It isn't in a desirable area because it is so close to the airport so I don't know if they could sell it. It doesn't look like it is rented out. Based on her facebook posting back in the spring, there were other people staying there with her and she was having problems with items going missing from her place.

As for her "food poisoning" claim. Any bout I ever had with food poisoning was something NEVER to be forgotten. Allow me to go briefly to the land of TMI and bring forth a memory of a bout of food poisoning I had in the 80's in Alaska. I had some bad vegetable soup and the projectile vomiting was so bad that I blew a chunk of carrot through my nose. Yeah, that was really TMI (and hopefully some comic relief) but it was funny in retrospect. and quite memorable. Food poisoning doesn't usually cause amnesia, in fact it has quite the opposite effect.

I admit I am getting impatient and wanting something to happen with this case. But I also want everything to be done right so I am doing my best to be patient. So I take a deep breath and just say to myself 'there will be justice for Jaren, there will be justice for Jaren, J4J, J4J"

Thanks for the laugh!
I agree that it seems far fetched to not remember anything b/c of food poisoning. I know that I, nor anyone I have asked, has ever had memory loss contributed to food poisoning. However, I was searching the web I found: Atlantic Mussel Food Poisoning (AMFP). It doesn't seem that common, but it does cause short term memory loss as one of the symptoms. What I don't know for sure is that not remembering a whole night is considered short term memory loss. What else I don't know is what she is claiming to have gotten food poisoning from. You see AMFP only seems to come from shell fish from the Atlantic, well at least as far as I have read on it. (she does live where seafood/shellfish is common diet, as much as I HATE to give anything she says ANY value.) (side note: one of the many reasons I don't believe her -she doesn't look like she eats very often) That is why I am soooo curious as to what she ate that night. If she says it was a burger well that would give her (even) less credit.

I am, also, getting impatient. I hope the results from the lab come soon. Not only do I want J4J, but also for her sweet daughter. At the very least she deserves the truth! (of course when she is mature enough to handle the information)

 

[typically-a-reader]

Help me out. Where did we learn that she's claiming memory loss due to food poisoning? Was that something she put out there herself, maybe on facebook? TIA

I am pretty sure I read it here, some time after she was released from jail. It may have even been a post from JTFM or a news article. It is in this thread.

 

[typically-a-reader]

I read and it looks like that is what MS herself told JTFM that she couldn't remember due to food poisoning.

 

[Vann]

Help me out. Where did we learn that she's claiming memory loss due to food poisoning? Was that something she put out there herself, maybe on facebook? TIA

Justthefactsmam was communicating with her via Facebook. She told him she had food poisoning that night and doesn't remember anything about that night.
I just checked her Facebook status and she is currently wrapped up in a pity party. I am hoping that people are giving her a hard time about Jaren and that she can't escape her newly found notoriety. She is quite brave going to the Quarter. Her face sticks out like a sore thumb. Maybe just maybe she doesn't have as many friends as she thought she had.

Her Mr Wonderful (TS) is thankfully locked up so now she is truly alone. Until we get justice for Jaren, I hope the walls are closing in on MAS and that she feels terribly isolated from the world. Justice comes in many forms. I'd like to believe this is phase one for her from a higher being with only more to come.

 

[Clodumbo]

I don't know about the law in LA, but trial transcripts should be public record. You shouldn't need a "personal connection". Of course, LA may have a unique law that does require it. Having said that, yes, they can be very expensive. Very typically they will cost $100's if not $1000's. They typically charge by the page, so it kind of depends on how long the trial is too. You should be able to request just portions of it too if you don't want, for example, the portion involving jury selection or questioning a non-essential witness.

In Louisiana, everything is for a fee and yes, I was told that I have to have a "personal connection" to the Atwood Case. So much for the Freedom of Information Act! My main concern is how did Patricia Biehn get out of prison so early? I know that she told LE everything and they gave her a lighter sentence. But she was accessory to murder? What were they thinking? Also did the Atwood Murders inspire TS and MAS? It does make you wonder?

If anybody has better connections, that would be an interesting find.

 

[SwampMama]

I would think we could probably rule out the Atlantic mussels as the cause of her food poisoning because in Louisiana, we love our Louisiana/Gulf of Mexico seafood. We have an abundance of wonderful seafood here from our lakes, bayous and the gulf so there is little need to import mussels from the Atlantic ocean. We like our food spicy and usually find that seafood from other places just doesn't live up to our expectations.

Plus, where would she have gotten mussels at that time of the night? It's not like they are sold at the Waffle House or the all night convenience store. She seemed pretty peppy and perky on the video when she met up with Jaren at the club.

But Kudos to the one who brought up the that possibility. I am glad to know that our WS members are dedicated enough to do research so we can deal in facts and realistic possibilities and rule out the implausible.

 

[reedus23]

In Louisiana, everything is for a fee and yes, I was told that I have to have a "personal connection" to the Atwood Case. So much for the Freedom of Information Act! My main concern is how did Patricia Biehn get out of prison so early? I know that she told LE everything and they gave her a lighter sentence. But she was accessory to murder? What were they thinking? Also did the Atwood Murders inspire TS and MAS? It does make you wonder?

If anybody has better connections, that would be an interesting find.

I remember there being some sort of how Biehn and Atwood picked up one or two of their victims from some bar that had Hogg's in it. I think there was also talk about the fact that MAS claimed to have met Addie Hall while working at a bar that had Hog or Hogg's in it. I don't think anyone was able to determine definitively one way or the other if the bars were the same or if MAS was even in New Orleans before Biehn was arrested. Might be something worth looking into again, but might be difficult given the lack of info on either bar. If there was some sort of connection, what are the odds that one person's name can be spoken in the same sentence with three cases of dismemberment? Obviously not saying she was a participant in the other 2. But to have some connection to those 2 cases and now the center of a 3rd one is more than just mere coincidence IMHO. Be interesting to know.

 

[bessie]

I remember there being some sort of how Biehn and Atwood picked up one or two of their victims from some bar that had Hogg's in it. I think there was also talk about the fact that MAS claimed to have met Addie Hall while working at a bar that had Hog or Hogg's in it. I don't think anyone was able to determine definitively one way or the other if the bars were the same or if MAS was even in New Orleans before Biehn was arrested. Might be something worth looking into again, but might be difficult given the lack of info on either bar. If there was some sort of connection, what are the odds that one person's name can be spoken in the same sentence with three cases of dismemberment? Obviously not saying she was a participant in the other 2. But to have some connection to those 2 cases and now the center of a 3rd one is more than just mere coincidence IMHO. Be interesting to know.

I think I posted this way back in an earlier thread. Addie worked at The Hog's Breath; Atwood and Biehn haunted Hogg's, which was two blocks away on Chartres St.

She's from here, and has lived in (or near) NOLA her entire life.

 

[MrsBungi]

I have been thinking about Jaren a lot the past few days.
While I was looking through the pictures of her I kept seeing
that she is wearing an engagement or
some kind of ring on her left hand. This made me wonder
if any jewerly she wore that night was ever found?
And if it wasn't has LE checked the local pawn shops for it?
If MAS and TS took anything from Jaren,
one could assume that they would want to rid themselves of it ASAP.
A pawn shop would be a quick way of doing this,
also with TS being wanted MAS would be the one that signed for it.
If not a pawn shop then maybe one of those gold purchasing stores that have been popping up around here lately.
It's just a thought. If robbery was the motive then IMO they would take everything not just the money.

 

[ktgirl]

I have been thinking about Jaren a lot the past few days.
While I was looking through the pictures of her I kept seeing
that she is wearing an engagement or
some kind of ring on her left hand. This made me wonder
if any jewerly she wore that night was ever found?
And if it wasn't has LE checked the local pawn shops for it?
If MAS and TS took anything from Jaren,
one could assume that they would want to rid themselves of it ASAP.
A pawn shop would be a quick way of doing this,
also with TS being wanted MAS would be the one that signed for it.
If not a pawn shop then maybe one of those gold purchasing stores that have been popping up around here lately.


It's just a thought. If robbery was the motive then IMO they would take everything not just the money.

I believe Jaren was engaged to her daughter's father. So perhaps it was an engagement ring?
I wonder if it was found on her body as well. Seems like her daughter should get that ring one day, whether it was indeed and engagement ring or not (but it would be extra special if it was her mom's engagement ring from her dad). But maybe Jaren didn't wear her ring to work? I know lots of women who don't wear their wedding/engagement rings or expensive jewelery to the quarter in case they get robbed. Also doesn't seem like wearing an engagement or wedding ring to work would be particularly good for business if one is an exotic dancer.

ETA: I keep looking forward to the day we see some clear movement for justice for Jaren (like charges).

 

[Ms. Shagwell]

I believe Jaren was engaged to her daughter's father. So perhaps it was an engagement ring?
I wonder if it was found on her body as well. Seems like her daughter should get that ring one day, whether it was indeed and engagement ring or not (but it would be extra special if it was her mom's engagement ring from her dad). But maybe Jaren didn't wear her ring to work? I know lots of women who don't wear their wedding/engagement rings or expensive jewelery to the quarter in case they get robbed. Also doesn't seem like wearing an engagement or wedding ring to work would be particularly good for business if one is an exotic dancer.

ETA: I keep looking forward to the day we see some clear movement for justice for Jaren (like charges).

If I remember correctly, which gets a bit more difficult as each week passes with little or no new info, her hands and feet were not recovered so even if Jaren had a ring on, it would probably not be found. But there are so many other pieces of evidence that have not been mentioned in recent interviews with LE. I wonder if Jaren or MAS or TS carried a knife, and if so, what kind? Were any of the threads from Jaren's clothes found in MAS's car? Was there any sand in that car? What happened to the clothes that MAS and TS wore the night they left Temptations with Jaren? Did Jaren leave with her purse? Why would she have been so willing to leave so quickly with MAS and TS without calling her fiance with details? And where did MAS and TS go with her? How are they explaining being the last to see her alive??

 

[hurricaneangel]

i read biehn got a lighter sentence because she led le to the missing body parts and testified aginst her boyfriend.

 

[louisianalady]

MrsBungi, Jaren's jewelry was something that never crossed my mind.
You brought up an excellant point. Could someone that is a possible
drug addict, like MAS, pass up the opportunity to cash in on the
valuables to purchase more drugs? I wonder if the places that buy
gold keep detailed records on transactions?
Ms. Shagwell, you also brought up a good point about the sand.
When I go to the beach, it seems like I can NEVER get rid of all
the sand in my vehicle. Maybe that will help put the nail in the coffin
for MAS and TS. I pray that something is found, like a grit of sand,
that will tie them to the place where the body was found. Wouldn't
be so easy to talk your way out of that! Especially these days where
they can probably test the sand to see where it came from, or at least
give a general vicinity. I am praying that some definitive evidence to
convict the guilty person/people will be found. JMO