LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette; 19 May 2012 - #21

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  • #941
My opinions only, no facts here:

More about the surveillance camera pic.

I agree with the authorities that this is a Chevy Silverado Z71. There has not been a lot of change in this model over the years, but from the overall appearance of the surveillance camera pic, I think this may be a 2011 model. It looks fairly expensive, with most of the options.

Regarding a question by Artis and an answer by JurysOut about the vertical steak on the white truck in the original surveillance camera pic- the distortion in the original pic is both vertical and horizontal. I believe this steak is actually the raised fender mold that encircles the wheel on this model. Due to distortion, this mold surface appears further to the rear than it should in the original surveillance pic.

Remember that the driver is represented by only a couple of pixels on the original pic. So, it cannot factually be said whether the driver is male or female or stocky or skinny. What I did to define the driver was look at images of this model from the same angle without a driver; then I looked for pixels that might represent the driver on the surveillance camera pic. I admit that every time I look at the original pic I visualize a beefy guy in a white t-shirt, but this is just the way my particular brain cells view this. As for a passenger, I think I am only seeing the seat back cushions on the passenger side.

In the security camera pic, on the wheels, it looks like the holes are spaced about 70 degrees apart. So I overlaid 5-hole wheels (mags) on the original image. There is more than one type of five-hole wheel and I tried to pick the wheel design that best matches the blurry original image.

Since many posters had trouble reading the text on my first image, I am re-posting it here with larger text of an appropriate color. I am now examining the camera image that shows a white truck going in the opposite direction.

The 'probably not a person' is a fire hydrant. You can see it on google street view.
I do believe the vertical line is a flimsy movable shadow from the sign facing university.
Any chance it might be a 2003 avalanche z71?
Great work!
 
  • #942
I think that is starting to happen in Lafayette now too. People are going back to work; saying it happened 'over there'. People, neighbors, I thought would care are NOT. Mostly it is neighbors with children, who are trying to protect little ears. Still I find it hard to believe so few adults are actually searching and getting involved. It is the worst of 'if it does not pertain to me, I let it go'.

I must say that locals are starting to feel like like LE could come after them....

and geez, if NO ONE is brought to justice, the people in Lafayette are going to be living with this for years.

Is that a PERPS modus operandi? TO terrorize a larger community at large? I keep thinking about if MS was just one little Deed in a bigger plan; it scares me to death to think more stuff could be happening to a frenzied community.

It makes me want to change my routine; change where I get my coffee, etc.

I would not be surprised if it was someone from a surrounding area who kind of knew Lafayette and was driving through; or who had lived in the parkside/versailles area before.


Either that or someone who like me lived there before, or frequents the city for work. I left Lafayette for San Francisco 22 years ago, I still know the town very well.

LA
 
  • #943
My frame of mind as new information comes to light, is also evolving.
After re-reading transcripts etc..I came across this.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1205/24/ng.01.html

I've had this nagging feeling from the get go that it could be a woman who took Mickey, the trust to go willingly, like maybe former LE, campus or airport security guard, patrol type person? After reading this, perhaps a teacher, peer or other trusted cycle community person offered to share the ride home. No bike, no bag, no mace, no purse to get ride of. He asks to stop and pick something up where he lives on the way...and we never see her again.

This part of the transcript bothers me:

JIM CRAFT, POLICE CHIEF, LAFAYETTE POLICE DEPARTMENT (via phone): To answer your first question, it is within that hour that she goes missing. And the second question between her house and her friend`s house, it is on the way, yes.*
GRACE: So if we think that`s her, and who else would be driving by on a bike at that time of the day or night she made it that far.*
CRAFT: We actually -- actually we have, you know, a lot of bicycle traffic in that area.*
GRACE: At that time of night?*
CRAFT: Because of the type of area it is. (bbm)And so we do have other bicycles visible in different shots that we've been able to pull up
GRACE: Can I ask you, Chief, are there a lot of bicyclers at 1:30 a.m. in that area?*
CRAFT: Yes, there is. It`s a -- the area is a largest populated --*: Students

Interesting....
 
  • #944
I just finished reading all of Mickey's threads. She seems like such an awesome person.

I'm a pretty small twentysomething woman and I walk places alone after dark all the time. Every Tuesday I walk home from a bar in a nearby town, about five miles total, because none of my friends live in the same direction I do. I walk to and from work by taking a shortcut over a fairly untraveled road, mostly because it's pretty and I like to hear the birds (I listen to people talk all day so the silence is nice). I live in a "safe" town and carry a knife just in case. I really thought I was taking reasonable precautions and felt like I didn't need to worry because my city is relatively low-crime. I read stories on WS all the time about people who disappear, but this one is hitting home. From what I can tell, Mickey wasn't doing anything wrong, she was just a kid who probably made an error in judgment and was caught in the wrong place at the wrong time. It could have been me or any of the people I know.

Since reading these threads, I am thinking twice about my habits. I realize that I shouldn't walk with my iPod anymore, and I should wait to text until I'm at my office or at home. There's a route to work that uses a busy, well-lit street, and it won't take that much longer. I am guilty of so many careless behaviors. I am kind of freaked out, to be honest. I never even stopped to think about what could happen,and in fact, I actually considered myself a cautious person. Then I read the posts from older (wiser) people here who couldn't believe that Mickey was riding her bike alone at 2 AM or that her friends didn't offer to drive. I would not have thought twice if someone I knew had been in the same situation.

Mickey is just like me and so many of my friends. I think we'd get along. I guess a lot of us just don't stop to think that we aren't invincible just because we're young. I hope that she comes home safely very soon and can enjoy the summer with her friends, like all twentysomething kids should be able to do.

Rambling now. Come home, Mickey. :(

helpful, great post & food for thought. Guess, folks that live in larger urban areas are a little more aware of crime than folks that live in mid sized or sleepy little towns. Your comment reminds me of many of the citizen's reactions to the Holly Bobo abduction in Darden, TN, 04/13/2011. Although it has been over a year since her abduction, large pink bows & missing persons posters blanket the town as a reminder.

http://www.examiner.com/article/hol...mes-to-small-tight-knit-community-safety-tips

Holly Bobo: Big-city crime comes to small tight-knit community; safety tips

In an April 15 live CBS News report it was reported that residents and authorities said nothing like this has ever happened in their small community, and that they were in a state of shock.

On the day after Holly disappeared Sheriff Roy Wyatt said in a live interview, “We’re tracking down every lead that we’ve got. We’ve called in different agencies. We’ve had tracking dogs, we’ve had helicopters. Everything we could get we’ve had here looking for the young lady.”
 
  • #945
From the very poor quality pics that were released of the VOI I realllly don't think we can say if the occupants are black or Muslim, or a black woman pretending to be Muslim. Just as we are not allowed to talk about rumors already going around, we definitely shouldn't be creating any new ones. We need to focus on what we CAN see.

Let today be the day!
 
  • #946
  • #947
Great map. What we know from the map is that MS left BW's house on her bike and that she was safe from that point to the 1:48am video. 3 minutes or less, maybe! Wish there would be more investigation into the call made that night about someone hear screams. Since MS wasn't reported missing until well after the screams were reported, am hoping LE didn't just choose not to consider this as a possible piece of the case. They often do have their own mindset and are unwilling to waver! Wish media could find out who reported the screams and give us the info. I think it is significant.

I had not heard this about calls concerning hearing screams. Do we know what time that happened? TIA
 
  • #948
My opinions only, no facts here:

More about the surveillance camera pic.

I agree with the authorities that this is a Chevy Silverado Z71. There has not been a lot of change in this model over the years, but from the overall appearance of the surveillance camera pic, I think this may be a 2011 model. It looks fairly expensive, with most of the options.

Regarding a question by Artis and an answer by JurysOut about the vertical steak on the white truck in the original surveillance camera pic- the distortion in the original pic is both vertical and horizontal. I believe this steak is actually the raised fender mold that encircles the wheel on this model. Due to distortion, this mold surface appears further to the rear than it should in the original surveillance pic.

Remember that the driver is represented by only a couple of pixels on the original pic. So, it cannot factually be said whether the driver is male or female or stocky or skinny. What I did to define the driver was look at images of this model from the same angle without a driver; then I looked for pixels that might represent the driver on the surveillance camera pic. I admit that every time I look at the original pic I visualize a beefy guy in a white t-shirt, but this is just the way my particular brain cells view this. As for a passenger, I think I am only seeing the seat back cushions on the passenger side.

In the security camera pic, on the wheels, it looks like the holes are spaced about 70 degrees apart. So I overlaid 5-hole wheels (mags) on the original image. There is more than one type of five-hole wheel and I tried to pick the wheel design that best matches the blurry original image.

Since many posters had trouble reading the text on my first image, I am re-posting it here with larger text of an appropriate color. I am now examining the camera image that shows a white truck going in the opposite direction.
It is in this image that I clearly see a white hijab (passenger) and dark skinned man with white shirt (driver). I do find it odd that when I zoomed into unlabeled pics of this same pic that I could not make out what I stated. But In this labeled picture, I definitely do. Does anyone see what I do if they zoom in on this labeled picture on there computer? seriously....post 916. this thread.

Thanks for understanding.
 
  • #949
It is in this image that I clearly see a white hijab (passenger) and dark skinned man with white shirt (driver). I do find it odd that when I zoomed into unlabeled pics of this same pic that I could not make out what I stated. But In this labeled picture, I definitely do. Does anyone see what I do if they zoom in on this labeled picture on there computer? seriously....post 916. this thread.

Thanks for understanding.

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The pic is post 916 is not an original pic issued by LE. It has been "fantasy altered" by a member here. He included a disclaimer that it had been altered and may reflect personal bias.
 
  • #950
It is in this image that I clearly see a white hijab (passenger) and dark skinned man with white shirt (driver). I do find it odd that when I zoomed into unlabeled pics of this same pic that I could not make out what I stated. But In this labeled picture, I definitely do. Does anyone see what I do if they zoom in on this labeled picture on there computer? seriously....post 916. this thread.

Thanks for understanding.

No. Really.
 
  • #951
Coffee is not strong enough..making a double. :)
 
  • #952
If you stare at a picture long enough, you'll see what you want to see.

Its become almost impossible to determine what is fact, rumor, "local knowledge", or doctored maps and pics around here.

I want Mickey to come home as much as anyone, but I don't see how knowing where every camera is and the exact placement of her bike is going to help. I just don't. Sorry.

(I'm not directing this at anyone, its just what I've been thinking everytime I read this thread lately)
 
  • #953
OT. I bought some 'poison ivy soap' at a hardware store last week that is has jewelweed in it. Supposedly it is good for poison ivy; anyone ever heard of this?
 
  • #954
strong coffee for me to today. In the name of Jesus and goodness, let this missing girl have life!
 
  • #955
Its become almost impossible to determine what is fact, rumor, "local knowledge", or doctored maps and pics around here.

And even though the doctored pics had disclaimers, we can see that there is still the possibility someone doesn't understand that and uses it to "gather" information, which can then be spread and create rumors. THIS is how it happens. We have to prevent that.
 
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  • #957
megsy -- Thanks for the heads up. Cullens is much closer to MS' house; I don't know that the checkpoint would be affecting the streets quite that much where MS was last seen.

But, hey, what do I know? I'm not usually out and about that late, so it's entirely possible that people would be cutting through on streets anywhere and everywhere to avoid it.
I am out quite a bit until 12 am. Not much later than that. There is a lot of activity on Johnston street. I often study at the little coffee house on the corner of Johnston and South College (is that the street name where there is a walgreen's?. I am very concerned for MS if she traveled past this Coffeehouse up to Congress. There is some rif raf along the street where the drug emporium is and bj's pizza; locals KWIM? IS there any way to tell if cameras at UMC medical center on corner of Johnston and Congress would catch anything? There are medical offices all along that route from coffeeshop to Congress on Johnston. Have LE checked there? She could have easily made it that far?
and if she did make that far, what is the exit out of town to WB from there?

P'd off that a PERP probably traveled in front of my house.
 
  • #958
And even though the doctored pics had disclaimers, we can see that there is still the possibility someone doesn't understand that and uses it to "gather" information, which can then be spread and create rumors. THIS is how it happens. We have to prevent that.

Exactly! I don't think most people read the "disclaimer" and just take everything as fact. Its frustrating. :banghead:

ETA- heck I popped in yesterday and thought LE had released a map. :confused:

I asked before but no one would answer... is anyone verified on this thread?
 
  • #959
Zoomed in on LE released video shot
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Zoomed in on 'enhanced' video shot.
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c49/mahouston69/a6ff94b4.jpg

The fact is we don't know who has her or where. Yes, let today be the day we do.
Can you teach me how to write on this picture and I would show you what I see. The white in the driver side is shirt. The white on passenger side is hoodie/hijab. I am 75% sure.
 
  • #960
So after reading and reading I have finally decided to post my opinion and ask a few questions.
1. When did the college let out for the summer?
2. Has her classmates been looked at.

I ask about the classmates because I could see a fellow student who she has had classes with being attracted to MS but has kept his feeling to himself. He isn’t in her tight group of friends but keeps himself close to her but not to close so not to be obvious. IMO this person doesn’t necessarily live full time in Lafayette but goes to school there so is familiar with the area. This person has followed her before and watches her. But again he keeps himself more or less invisible to her. He is not happy that she is moving to NO not because she is moving with BW but because he will not see her anymore.

3. Were there any classmates at the bar that night? Or even out the night before when MS was out?

Keep up the great work…And I pray that we find her soon and that she is okay.
 
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