LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #31

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  • #561
Are we seriously still on this track? C'mon guys...LE, Chicken Fried, and ACI have all given us sufficient evidence to dispel this batty notion. But, ok...I'll humor the suggestion, once more.

OK, focus on the light sources in the trees. Looks like stray light distortion from the fish-eye camera...much like, I suspect, the stray light beneath the truck happens to be. There's a static source of light distortion, one which sprinkles stray lightbursts throughout the frame. This animated sequence actually helps disprove the idea that there's someone/something under the truck.

Oh, and let's not forget naturally-occurring pixel distortion resultant of zooming of this small frame.

And Physics, folks. Science is your friend. :)

I think the spatter of light in the trees is the white car/truck at circle K, turning right onto University from St. Landry and a vehicle tail lights turning left or going straight onto St. John.

What other possible scenario is there, that fits for her to disappear right here? Explain how she got further than this spot without being seen on a camera just a half a block, or two blocks down the street? or any other camera, anywhere?
 
  • #562
That was probably me, re: Marc K.; I seem to be the resident cynic...

I do not think it is easy to hide a body. The only actual experience I have is when my five pound dog died. She became amazingly heavy. I dug a grave for her and I was also amazed at how hard dirt can be and that digging a grave is not as easy as it would seem -- and this was for a very small dog. I have also worked in hospitals and know that dealing with someone under anesthesia is the work of two or three people, not one. I am sure it is possible that one person could move a body around and bury it, etc., but I just want to put in my two cents that moving bodies around that are totally unable to assist you -- is not easy work.
 
  • #563
Thanks for reminding me, they have not reported her injuries. Waiting to get more details :)

She and the driver of the truck were on the 4:00 news today WSBtv...He came forward thinking he was a witness. He had No idea he was a suspect! She's pretty beat up (road rash) and still very sore! Guy in truck says HE DIDN'T hit her.. he was only a "witness"... and that SHE RAN INTO THE BACK OF A ANOTHER VEHICLE
the victim disagrees!

sorry I can't find a link!
it's hinky
 
  • #564
Well, a quick alteration and here we go.

Perhaps we have the answer to the handlebars/grips statement?

I don't see any handlebars/grips in this image.
 
  • #565
THANKYOU!!! I am glad to know what to look for. crazy thing is --- today, i saw that EXACT truck on perkins in baton rouge near essen. i start inspecting it, chevy, check, fourblack handles, check, z71 sticker, check. so i go to look at the license plate and there isn't one, nor is there a paper plate that i coulkd see. i was driving in opp direction, and his light turned green, so i didn't get phone out of my disaster of a purse/diaper bag in time to take pic

Wow! :what: This sounds very interesting! Can you remember if it had a chrome gas cap? That seems to be one of the distinguishing features I remember from earlier posts. No license plate and no paper plate is mighty suspicious and cause for LE to pull them over and ask questions...and then possibly :jail: Any more info?
 
  • #566
Okay, I've posted numerous times before about DWT. The only truck in question is the White 2009-2011 Body style Z71 seen by the ROAD SIGN. The truck is either identical or similar to this one... http://gtcarlot.com/colors/car/33882668.html . Even with the blurry photo I am almost positive those are the same rims as the screen capture. The other truck in the screen capture seen from the backside has been questioned. Again the only truck left in question is the White Z71 pictured infront of the Circle K near the road sign.

I have read almost every article and watched every video and I haven't seen anything to confirm this either way.

You may refer to the facts I posted earlier as well.

There have been conflicting statements made in regards to the white trucks. Originally the white truck going in the opposite direction of Mickey in front of the Circle K was the primary vehicle of interest. It was even stated by LE that this truck was being sought as it may have been "involved" in Mickey's disappearance. Not as a witness.

It appears that there was originally three trucks seen and LE stated that it was unclear if the two trucks in front of the Circle K were the same truck. Then there was also the white truck with the bed cover.

At a later date, it was stated that the white truck with the bed cover has been identified. And also that two of the trucks were identified to be the same truck....the one with the bed cover. ??? Confusing.

LE has not come forward and made any type of updated confirmation either way in regards to the white truck going in the opposite direction of Mickey in front of the Circle K and as it was initially the primary vehicle of interest, I have continued to feel that it has not been identified.

The white truck going in the same direction as Mickey and identified as a Chevy z71 remains a vehicle of interest.

In my opinion, it is very clear that the white truck going in the opposite direction of Mickey in front of the Circle K is definitely not the truck with the bed cover.
 
  • #567
Hard to believe we still don't know where Mickey is....
 
  • #568
What other possible scenario is there, that fits for her to disappear right here? Explain how she got further than this spot without being seen on a camera just a half a block, or two blocks down the street? or any other camera, anywhere?

I still haven't seen anyone explain how she was supposedly hit and neither she nor her bike moved forward. (and, in fact, some are now suggesting she moved backward)

More importantly, this is a still frame from a video -- which would clearly show any such accident occurring in this location.

Sorry, I'm sure I come off a bit frustrated, and it's directed at no one in particular. I just think we (collectively) are better served trying to explore other options to explain what happened to MS, and (hopefully) to find her, rather than engage in this terminal loop of science-bucking and otherwise illogical thinking.
 
  • #569
Sorry to take so long to reply to your post from yesterday, and not sure if anyone else replied, but here's my :twocents: worth. It was pretty unusual to have this kind of fire occur, and the speculation is that if the perp(s) needed to clean up evidence like bloodstains (possibly from a garage and a truck), they could use the stolen pressure washers. Pressure washers are fairly expensive, but can be rented, however that would leave a paper-trail if checked later. Also, various truck parts were stolen which may indicate that the truck owner was trying to alter the appearance of his vehicle and/or replace damaged parts from the collision with Mickey's bike (but that would be minimal damage). :moo:

I understand what everyone sees, but I agree it is because this still pix is from video. It is moving and truck photo is zoomed thus messing with the pixilation and causing distortion. If Mickey was hit in that location by the truck it would be on the video. The accident would have been recorded. This logic plus LE addressing it, closes the argument for me. I think it valuable for everyone here to go on google earth and look at the Circle K and Pizza Hut directly across from where you think she was hit. The Circle K is much more than a gas pumps. It is an entire store laid out in the same direction of St landry and Pizza Hut next door. Beside the video recording the accident , peeps at CK would have heard the accident. IMHO
 
  • #570
I do not think it is easy to hide a body. The only actual experience I have is when my five pound dog died. She became amazingly heavy. I dug a grave for her and I was also amazed at how hard dirt can be and that digging a grave is not as easy as it would seem -- and this was for a very small dog. I have also worked in hospitals and know that dealing with someone under anesthesia is the work of two or three people, not one. I am sure it is possible that one person could move a body around and bury it, etc., but I just want to put in my two cents that moving bodies around that are totally unable to assist you -- is not easy work.

But often, when victims are finally found, they are not really "hidden" per se...they just stayed unnoticed for a while. Often, it is a matter of hikers or outdoor workers coming across remains that have been in place for years. And when water is a possibility...the chances are even less that a person will be found. You were trying to create a respectful spot to leave your pet...not just quickly getting rid of "evidence." JMO
 
  • #571
I think that it is possible that broken tail lights could be from someone hitting the tail lights for damage on purpose. Also, to me, I would be fighting like heck and damage the interior of the vehicle and kick out the air conditioner vents with my feet -- I would do all damage possible if I were in that particular situation. So, whether is is right or not, I can make the connection to replacing things in my truck with parts from a different truck. The interesting thing to me is that they stoled TWO pressure washers. As if they needed to use them for two different sites or by two different people. To me that arson was done by two people or even more.

Yes, it really is odd that two pressure washer were stolen and I agree with you that two people were most likely involved in this theft and strange fire at the tool shop. If there were two separate locations that needed evidence removed by pressure washing, I'm imagining the initial abduction hiding place could be a garage and then possibly removal to another out-building at a camp-site or other home. This is all just theory. JMO We could be looking at a crime that had zero to do with Mickey, and these thieves/arsonists want to earn money, in wealthier areas, posing as professional cleaners? :waitasec:
 
  • #572
She and the driver of the truck were on the 4:00 news today WSBtv...He came forward thinking he was a witness. He had No idea he was a suspect! She's pretty beat up (road rash) and still very sore! Guy in truck says HE DIDN'T hit her.. he was only a "witness"... and that SHE RAN INTO THE BACK OF A ANOTHER VEHICLE
the victim disagrees!

sorry I can't find a link!
it's hinky

I am confused, the bicyclists here in yuba city? That I posted photos of her bike from the Appeal-Democrat? The driver in that accident was cited for marijuana and did not leave the scene. Are we discussing another accident where you live?
 
  • #573
It's hard to work on the physics without knowing where the truck came from. I was thinking it was coming straight down St.John/St.Landry. Only recently it occurred to me that it could have been in front of Mickey and traveling in reverse. If you think I understand what I'm looking at, that's not so. I see contradictions... frankly.. I won't tell you about the guy with no legs, because that's just not there. I need to stop seeing that. madness.

I was reviewing threads starting with thread 10, and saw that LE stated that z71 'turned onto St.Landry, right behind Mickey'. if that is the case, then it's a hook sort of movement to calculate your physics..which is still next to impossible without enough frames to show speed. He did not say if the turn was rt of lft.

There is good stuff back there. Thinking about a sweating to the oldies comp. I'll post CF's daylight pic when I find it.
 
  • #574
I am confused, the bicyclists here in yuba city? That I posted photos of her bike from the Appeal-Democrat? The driver in that accident was cited for marijuana and did not leave the scene. Are we discussing another accident where you live?

MY bad! he one hit here in Georgia last week!
I only noticed because they released video wanting to find the driver of the truck!

sorry.
 
  • #575
BREAKING! or I think so.

Okay...about the truck. This is kinda proof that LE isn't looking for this truck, in my strong opinion.

It's definitely hitting something. I'm going to release a somewhat altered photo.

It's the photo that I've been using to identify the truck.

Here's what I've done to the photo:

I pushed the gray level through the roof in order to get a look at the front bumper. I found what I was looking for. But one thing I did notice is that the truck isn't level.
From this angle, the truck front should be lower than the back...and it isn't. It's rolling over something.

I also edited out the shadow on the truck to see if there is trim on the truck.

I've also graciously marked the photo as altered.

Enjoy the eye candy!

Guess I am confused. You think LE is NOT looking for the truck? But you DO think it is seen running over something?

A few of us have altered these stills every which way for many threads now and a lot of us believe there is something under there. Some think the truck hit Mickey and some think the truck only hit her bike.

To me it looks like the bike but not a person.

I would think this would make them look for it for sure.
 
  • #576
I still haven't seen anyone explain how she was supposedly hit and neither she nor her bike moved forward. (and, in fact, some are now suggesting she moved backward)

More importantly, this is a still frame from a video -- which would clearly show any such accident occurring in this location.

Sorry, I'm sure I come off a bit frustrated, and it's directed at no one in particular. I just think we (collectively) are better served trying to explore other options to explain what happened to MS, and (hopefully) to find her, rather than engage in this terminal loop of science-bucking and otherwise illogical thinking.
It's equally frustrating that IMO Mickey is right under your nose and you refuse to see her, and spend a lot of energy and time, as well as ACI and CF, in 'debunking' when there isn't enough video evidence to do any such thing. I'd like to see you move MS beyond this point if you can. Offer something instead of shooting this down. Because IMO 'Mickey is right there'. There is no white/shifting light explanation for this figure.
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Chevy Chase, you don't have an explanation for this!
 
  • #577
Okay, I've posted numerous times before about DWT. The only truck in question is the White 2009-2011 Body style Z71 seen by the ROAD SIGN. The truck is either identical or similar to this one... http://gtcarlot.com/colors/car/33882668.html . Even with the blurry photo I am almost positive those are the same rims as the screen capture. The other truck in the screen capture seen from the backside has been questioned. Again the only truck left in question is the White Z71 pictured infront of the Circle K near the road sign.

This is great. Make sure if you look at this link, scroll all the way down, shows all sides, interior etc. I missed it the first time.
 
  • #578
If Mickey was hit as some are suggesting wouldn't the people that were caught on the same cameras at circle k getting gas hear the crash? the cops should be able to tell who was getting gas as most people pay with credit or they go inside to pay with cash after dark. We have to trust that they have interviewed these people as well. Praying for answers soon..
 
  • #579
The silence from LE is both frustrating and deafening. I find it very odd that this past week LE searched WB, possibly as part of a "training exercise", according to the explanation given to local news media. Is it likely that the site of a probable/possible recent crime scene (location of the discovery of Mickey's bike) would be used for the purpose of training?? It does nothing to counter that LE is not only quiet, but possibly misleading? I am just hoping that there is a method to their madness - that they have information that we are not privy to.

Also, I'm new here, as far as registering and posting, but I have been lurking for a couple of months like nobody's business.

:rocker::rocker:

:newhere:
 
  • #580
I'm interested in finding out where Mickey is now. Whether she was hit by a truck or car, or run over, or knocked off her bike by someone on foot or another bike rider, we need to figure out where she was taken.
 
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