LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #31

[Island hopper]

YEP ... I see it ... plain as day. Look REAL HARD and the rest of ya will see IT too. Get your bi-focals, tri-focals, binoculars and telescopes out. "It's" there ... keep looking. It's not just a big black over pixelated blob. And we wonder why Mickey's family doesn't want to have any association with our discussion forum.

I have looked and looked. I see something but cannot make it to to be a person. Wish I could. I can only see an angel looking figure to the far left.

 

[Island hopper]

YEP ... I see it ... plain as day. Look REAL HARD and the rest of ya will see IT too. Get your bi-focals, tri-focals, binoculars and telescopes out. "It's" there ... keep looking. It's not just a big black over pixelated blob. And we wonder why Mickey's family doesn't want to have any association with our discussion forum.

Oh, were you kidding? Ha. I didn't see the yellow lettering.

 

[Chili Fries]

originally posted by aviatrix

"Has anyone else seen that story they are publishing about the guy they think is a related case? It surprised me today to see that. Something about a Virginia case where a young blonde girl was hitch-hiking and was found murdered 10 miles away. They are publishing a photo of what they think the guy looks like. I think this is some FBI ploy ofsome type, but cannot figure out what the heck they are up to. The other thing that is odd to me is publishing photos of MS with different hair color. They did that in the Elizabeth Smart case too. Can anyone give me their ideas on what the FBI is up to - or their thinking -- publishing different haircolor?"

i can't find this story. do you have a link? the media thinks it's related to MS?

aviatrix is talking about Morgan Harrington. She got into a car hitchhiking outside a concert in Charlottesville, Virginia and was murdered. When her body was found a DNA match was made with one from a guy who sexually assaulted another woman in Virginia. The woman who had been assaulted was able to provide a sketch artist with a description of her attacked so that sketch is circulating in hopes that someone can ID it.

There has been no credible report that ties Mickey to what happened to Morgan. There was just some speculation by a random blogger on Examiner.com, which is no different from someone posting that kind of speculation here. At this time there has been nothing shown that what happened in Virginia and Mickey's case are related in any way.

 

[Island hopper]

Fully and respectfully disagree with your first sentence.

Think of bumper cars. You're hit from behind. Your car moves forward and, while your head moves backward, that is only relative to the car you're in. Once the rest of the inertia created by the rear-end accident cycles through, you and the car are both thrown forward.

Same with an auto accident. Whiplash injuries result from the head being thrown backward -- then forward -- violently, in an instant.

I cannot see a scenario where an object or a human would be thrown backward when all of the inertia -- that of the truck (in this instance) and of the cyclist (MS, in this instance) -- is moving in a forward direction. Even if we assume, for the sake of the discussion, that MS was stopped/stationary (which labikegirl, an experienced cyclist, seems to think is not the case, and that MS in fact is moving along at a fair clip), I can see no scenario where MS would wind up 8-12 feet backward from the point of alleged impact.

You are allowed to disagree but please at least do some research first. Lots and lots of bike accidents online that show the rider being throw backwards when hit from behind.

You actually proved a good point...the reason why whiplash occurs is because in a car you are fastened in. You are moving with the car. You get hit from behind and your body moves forward with the car but when the car stops, you are jerked back by gravity.

If you rear end someone you are thrown forward. Your body moves toward the point of impact.

 

[Mahouston69]

So before I take off for the night I will post two images:
(1) One from yesterdays bike accident that left no blood, no DNA, no scars, or scratches to the pavement, no debris from the bike, minimal scratches to the truck, but sent the lady to the hospital by helicopter and only moved her bike and her about a foot from the impact.

(2) an overlayed image from the animation, where it shows Mickey and the truck in stopped positions (IMO) across from the circle K that had only one car getting gas at the pump. That person is not shown in the photo so was inside their car, or inside the circle K. (The other two vehicles in the same photo were employee vehicles parked during their shift. Not customers.) We can speculate why all three people heard/saw nothing from bathroom break to loud music.

3) Either the interval video image photo (not continuous) only shows this one clear image of the truck for identification purposes and LE had to use the public help to find it and blurred, darkened, pixelated important the impact and forgot to clone out the bike light thinking no one would notice the different pixels that matched the bike light

OR their experts did and are doing the same as we are, it might be the bike, it might be MS, but they cannot tell, so they saw no harm in releasing something they themselves cannot 100% identify, and neither can we. But, I always say.. if it walks and quacks like a duck..

 

[Island hopper]

Well, I guess the only thing to do would be to find a white truck, place it a the exact same spot, take a photo with the exact same camer from the exact same place at the exact same time and without a bike under it and with a bike at various places under it and then publish the photos. We could try and recreate what we are debating here. LE is not going to do that because they already know, because they have more photos that they are holding close.

Has anyone else seen that story they are publishing about the guy they think is a related case? It surprised me today to see that. Something about a Virginia case where a young blonde girl was hitch-hiking and was found murdered 10 miles away. They are publishing a photo of what they think the guy looks like. I think this is some FBI ploy ofsome type, but cannot figure out what the heck they are up to. The other thing that is odd to me is publishing photos of MS with different hair color. They did that in the Elizabeth Smart case too. Can anyone give me their ideas on what the FBI is up to - or their thinking -- publishing different haircolor?

I was talking about the still of the hooptie car...where people thought they saw Mickey in the background. On the CNN video you can clearly see that what appears to be a bike rider is a car in the parking lot. I know we have already determined that but in this video there could be no doubting it.

Are you talking about Morgan Harrington and the sketch that matches the DNA of another case and that of Morgan?

 

[fairest of them all]

Could be! maybe it wasn't alcohol but txting?...
At least now I don't feel like I am the only one that thinks there is something under that truck! Most of which IMO is the bike headlight!

moo~

Agree!

 

[justwannahelp]

Wow! :what: This sounds very interesting! Can you remember if it had a chrome gas cap? That seems to be one of the distinguishing features I remember from earlier posts. No license plate and no paper plate is mighty suspicious and cause for LE to pull them over and ask questions...and then possibly :jail: Any more info?

I didn't notice the gas cap. What color gas cap are we looking for? My neighbor has the truck too, but his sticker is 4x4 not Z71. I see LOTS with the 4x 4 sticker rather than z71

 

[cluciano63]

originally posted by aviatrix

"Has anyone else seen that story they are publishing about the guy they think is a related case? It surprised me today to see that. Something about a Virginia case where a young blonde girl was hitch-hiking and was found murdered 10 miles away. They are publishing a photo of what they think the guy looks like. I think this is some FBI ploy ofsome type, but cannot figure out what the heck they are up to. The other thing that is odd to me is publishing photos of MS with different hair color. They did that in the Elizabeth Smart case too. Can anyone give me their ideas on what the FBI is up to - or their thinking -- publishing different haircolor?"

i can't find this story. do you have a link? the media thinks it's related to MS?

It was an examiner blog...trying to link to Morgan Harrington...not really media.

 

[fairest of them all]

No doubt that will bust the case wide open.

are you kidding? I'm not saying they are there......I'm saying in those blown up grainy images I see what looks like chrome pip running boards and anything that looks like a break in a smooth surface could be reflection off of the chrome.......moo

 

[HouDat]

You are allowed to disagree but please at least do some research first. Lots and lots of bike accidents online that show the rider being throw backwards when hit from behind.

Would you be so kind as to link to one such example?

You actually proved a good point...the reason why whiplash occurs is because in a car you are fastened in. You are moving with the car. You get hit from behind and your body moves forward with the car but when the car stops, you are jerked back by gravity.

Agreed. But the net effect is that your body (along with the car) are both propelled forward from the point of impact, in an accident where your car is hit from behind.

If you rear end someone you are thrown forward. Your body moves toward the point of impact.

Right.

And if you are rear ended by someone, then you are thrown forward. Your body may wrench backward and forward in the process, but the net result of the impact is that you wind up being propelled forward by rear impact.

 

[De2385]

Fully and respectfully disagree with your first sentence.

Think of bumper cars. You're hit from behind. Your car moves forward and, while your head moves backward, that is only relative to the car you're in. Once the rest of the inertia created by the rear-end accident cycles through, you and the car are both thrown forward.

Same with an auto accident. Whiplash injuries result from the head being thrown backward -- then forward -- violently, in an instant.

I cannot see a scenario where an object or a human would be thrown backward when all of the inertia -- that of the truck (in this instance) and of the cyclist (MS, in this instance) -- is moving in a forward direction. Even if we assume, for the sake of the discussion, that MS was stopped/stationary (which labikegirl, an experienced cyclist, seems to think is not the case, and that MS in fact is moving along at a fair clip), I can see no scenario where MS would wind up 8-12 feet backward from the point of alleged impact.

I do not think she was stopped either. She was leaning forward. When cyclist's stop, they generally "straighten" up, and tap their foot down. When riders are hit from behind they generally go up and over the bars of the bike and fly forward. For this reason, broken collarbones are a frequent injury. Without a helmet, she could have also suffered a head injury and a considerable amount of "road rash" mostly to her hands/arms due to a desire to protect herself. This is what puzzles me. She would have been really banged up, I cant imagine she was looking too cute. So this probably lays the abductor for money theory to rest. JMO on that score.

hope you will accept my opinion, I've been known to ride a bit myself.

 

[JBean]

I am still confused about what this idea that she was stopped is all about and where it is coming from. hasn't LE seen the whole tape and says she passed through here and the truck came by after she had already passed? What I mean is don't the police already know that she pedaled through here? I see a woman pedaling through a parking lot.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ickey-Shunick-bridge-police-search-river.html
>>The white pick up van appears in one of the surveillance cameras footage driving by where Michaela 'Mickey' Shunick had just passed<<
>>Police have said it has taken this long to release the new information because much of the surveillance footage had to be watched in real time and then enhanced to positively identify Miss Schunick<<

 

[Island hopper]

Really? CNN has the video of the Hooptie on St. Landry?? Link? I really want to see it.I have two daylight photos, one from google and one from a sleuther. You can see the cars that pull in backwards, down past the Hooptie..on St. Landry, but I don't think it is reflection off the front of the car that is pulled into that spot because of the clear outline of the tires (that I outlined) unless they have the actual video that shows no rider riding.

They show the stills in their video. Not the actual video. But you can pause it and see fairly clearly. The link is in the long facts sheet I posted. It's in the media link.

It is amazing to me how clear their images of the stills are! You can see that what we think was Mickey is a white car parked.

I am not aware of any proof Mickey was seen further down St. Landry as other posters have stated. I believe that someone tod ACI this but there is no concrete proof that what they told him is true.

 

[JBean]

I do not think she was stopped either. She was leaning forward. When cyclist's stop, they generally "straighten" up, and tap their foot down. When riders are hit from behind they generally go up and over the bars of the bike and fly forward. For this reason, broken collarbones are a frequent injury. Without a helmet, she could have also suffered a head injury and a considerable amount of "road rash" mostly to her hands/arms due to a desire to protect herself. This is what puzzles me. She would have been really banged up, I cant imagine she was looking too cute. So this probably lays the abductor for money theory to rest. JMO on that score.

hope you will accept my opinion, I've been known to ride a bit myself.

and separated shoulders. :innocent:

 

[Island hopper]

I am still confused about what this idea that she was stopped is all about and where it is coming from. hasn't LE seen the whole tape and says she passed through here and the truck came by after she had already passed? What I mean is don't the police already know that she pedaled through here? I see a woman pedaling through a parking lot.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ickey-Shunick-bridge-police-search-river.html
>>The white pick up van appears in one of the surveillance cameras footage driving by where Michaela 'Mickey' Shunick had just passed<<
>>Police have said it has taken this long to release the new information because much of the surveillance footage had to be watched in real time and then enhanced to positively identify Miss Schunick<<

I think the speculation comes from the fact that this still is the last confirmed sighting of Mickey. She is not seen on any videos or cameras after this point. That coupled with what appears to be a light under the front of the truck and other "stuff" that appears to be under the front passenger tire. With the stills being at 1:48 and 1:49, it seems possible they could have collided.

The light does look like her bicycle light and we cannot seem to come up with another plausible explanation for what we see.

 

[Amster]

Didn't her friend say the lights on her wheels would fall off easily? Did the supposed person who supposedly ran over her supposedly take the time to pick up lights and whatever else might have been left from the supposed crash?

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

YEP ... I see it ... plain as day. Look REAL HARD and the rest of ya will see IT too. Get your bi-focals, tri-focals, binoculars and telescopes out. "It's" there ... keep looking. It's not just a big black over pixelated blob. And we wonder why Mickey's family doesn't want to have any association with our discussion forum.

I don't see what everyone else is seeing. Nothing at all that leads me to believe Mickey or her bike is under the truck. All I see is wild speculation.

 

[Pensfan]

[/QUOTE]
Gestalt figures

If told that the image you should see is a duck, most people will see a duck. If told that the figure you should see is a rabbit, most people will see a rabbit. Everyone eventually can see both duck and rabbit, but what they perceive first depends to a large extent on what they expect or are otherwise influenced to see.

 

[fairest of them all]

I think the speculation comes from the fact that this still is the last confirmed sighting of Mickey. She is not seen on any videos or cameras after this point. That coupled with what appears to be a light under the front of the truck and other "stuff" that appears to be under the front passenger tire. With the stills being at 1:48 and 1:49, it seems possible they could have collided.

The light does look like her bicycle light and we cannot seem to come up with another plausible explanation for what we see.

Someone had said it looks like a foot is on the ground
......way long time ago and they may have been talking about a different picture. Arevthere other pictures of her?