LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #31

[JBean]

I think the speculation comes from the fact that this still is the last confirmed sighting of Mickey. She is not seen on any videos or cameras after this point. That coupled with what appears to be a light under the front of the truck and other "stuff" that appears to be under the front passenger tire. With the stills being at 1:48 and 1:49, it seems possible they could have collided.

The light does look like her bicycle light and we cannot seem to come up with another plausible explanation for what we see.

But LE has seen the whole tape of her riding by. I mean the tape doesn't stop here. LE would have seen the collision on the balance of the tape.
ETA: If there was a collision in that spot in front of the camera there would be a tape of the entire thing. There would be no mystery. Remember this is just 2 separate stills that have been linked together in a most misleading way. There is more footage before after and during in increments that would have captured something like that.

What am I missing?

 

[fairest of them all]

I don't see what everyone else is seeing. Nothing at all that leads me to believe Mickey or her bike is under the truck. All I see is wild speculation.

Do you see chrome pipe like running boards? I do not see Mickey.......I see chrome running boards and reflective glare or shadows on the shiny pipe type running boards.....

EHR MEH GERD.....AM I TGE ONLY ONE WHO SEES CHROME RUNNING BOARDS????

 

[nola]

I honestly think that if the driver of this DW truck was not involved in some way in Mickey's disappearance he/she would have come forward to tell what they saw that night by now. So unless, they have come forward and LE is keeping that to themselves, I will hold true to the idea that this is the biggest lead for us to sleuth.
I have to say, however, that I wouldn't be surprised if the Z71 sticker is long gone by now.

About the theory that Mickey or her bike was hit right there in front of the Circle K: since I tend to believe that Mickey got further along St. Landry that night (as A.C.I suggested on the WS radio show), I don't think she was hit at that spot; I do think that she was hit, just not there. I do appreciate the discussion, however and think that all ideas should be explored. If she did in fact get further along and closer to Coliseum Road, then the fuzzy disturbances that we see beside the DWT and under the caution sign (I do see things in the blurry areas, my eyes can even arrange the pixels to see a person sitting on the curb; but I don't think this is accurate). I believe that these shapes must be friction (what I call it) created when capturing a still from a video sequence of the surveillance tape. Even though I see the fuzzy shapes, I don't think that they are anything more than blurs from the conversion of video to still. I do not think that they are Mickey or her bike. This is just my opinion. I will respectfully reserve the right to be wrong.
As many times as I have looked at the still of the DWT, this week was the first time that I noticed a tool or service box on the back side (over the rear right wheel). I can't make out what type of box this is, but am encouraged that this might help identify the truck. I have searched and searched on-line ( think others of you have too) and have not been able to find anything similar to the type of box this looks like to me -- anybody find anything close?. It appears to have a logo of some sort on the front -- maybe it says DELTA? I can't be sure.

I think this truck is likely associated with construction, oil field work or other service corporation. I wonder if parking attendants for these local industry/businesses have been shown this photo to aid in the identification process?

Finding this truck (IMO) is extremely important.

 

[cluciano63]

If the white truck is not involved...I don't believe they saw anything of any interest, or why would they A. not have stopped B. not come forward on their own or at least by now

Any innocent person who saw a possible accident at 2am would probably stop; if not, they would probably remember it when hearing about a missing bicyclist at the same time and place where they happened to see it and make contact with LE.

So-IMO-the truck is either involved in some way, or saw nothing at all and whatever happened did not happen in their view.

 

[fairest of them all]

But LE has seen the whole tape of her riding by. I mean the tape doesn't stop here. LE would have seen the collision on the balance of the tape.

Well I'd like to know what is cropped out of the pic .....other than the bush.

 

[De2385]

http://www.wsbtv.com/videos/news/police-search-for-driver-who-hit-bicyclist/vcQby/
food for thought! this girl WAS HIT BY A PICK UP TRUCK! She was not thrown forward but "dragged" with it!???

This makes me angry.

 

[Donamena]

Didn't her friend say the lights on her wheels would fall off easily? Did the supposed person who supposedly ran over her supposedly take the time to pick up lights and whatever else might have been left from the supposed crash?

If he had help-other passengers, they could have. While I get the whole scenario as postulated for the hit from truck to bike, why was it silent? No screeching, no screaming, no crashing? There were people outside the Circle K, there's even one running in for: payment, getting something to east, drink?? That's w hat has always bothered me? Any ideas?

 

[paddleallday]

Ok. If a bicycle is hit fom behind by a vehicle, more than likely the rider goes backwards over the vehicle, or on the hood/windshield the roll off on side closest to impact. However, loose items (glasses, purse, etc) are usually found closest to sight of impact.

Check this out:
http://www.collisionsafety.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Bike-crash-trajectory-SAE-900368.pdf


"In our particular set of tests, the cyclist was carried onto the hood of the car and struck the lower portion of the windshield - at or below the midpoint of the windshield - at velocities between 15-20 mph (24-32 km/h). Where the cyclist was astride the cycle as if he were standing and only one foot was on the pedals, the center of the impact damage to the windshield was at or below the base of the windshield itself.
At velocities between 20-25 mph (3240 km/h), the center of the impact area seen on the windshield is found at and above the vertical center of the windshield. For impacts above that velocity, the center of the impact area is found more toward the top of the windshield and onto the roof at the leading edge of the roof line."

I think Mickey is on top of the truck, in the truck bed, or on the passenger side on the ground. I think there is someone blurred out looking under the front of the truck. Probably the driver, bc the door is open. I think I see skin tones of the passenger in the truck, bc it looks like a face and a scoop neck shirt looking down and kind of behind the truck. The bright lights in the back are parking lights. Whoever blurred out the person in the front of the truck missed the bike light. There is a VERY good chance of surviving this accident.

I have looked at this picture a lot. It wasn't until I took a screen shot of the video that was pointed out on one of the CNN shows as having a much clearer picture with my iPad. Holy cow! Well, is it ever!! I thought people were crazy seeing some of this things. Also, you can see that the tailgate is down. The truck has a black bedliner. Chrome handles or whatever down the side, and a regular chrome tool box in the back. This truck hit her! This truck also goes back down st Landry, presumably with her. I am convinced!!!

Also, as far as the clerks or someone seeing this in the circle k, the clerks back would be at an angle to st Landry. No one, unless they were pumping gas or outside would have seen anything.

The article is long, but it's fact. Bike accidents happen fast, driver leave the scene without anyone else seeing. They generally DON'T take the rider, nor the bike!

 

[De2385]

not if she were like turning to get out of the way and or jumping from the bike to get out of the way......a person cant really take the laws of physics and apply them to a person who is fighting like hell tp jump out of the way of a truck ........maybe hitting the bike's rear wheel on the side as she wad turning. Technically she could have jumped that way.....shed have to jump that way if she were to jump because leaping the opposite way would still put her in the path of the truck or pinned under bike as it fell that way.....i like my own theory better though......bike i can see or make mysekf see because of the resemblance of the light.... i dont think mickey is in the picture...i think mickey is chasing someone down for her phone or purse somewhere around those bushes we can see in the picof her on the bike....and cant see in the puc of the truck.....i think what was going on which imo caused her to drop her bike in the road is cropped out....i think she was in the process of arguing with domeone for her phone back or something when the truck passsed an in my opinion hit her bike.....all just speculation though.e

It's very hard to jump off of a moving bike, and that is what you are suggesting. MS was a lot of very good things, but I do not believe she was a stunt woman.

 

[JBean]

Well I'd like to know what is cropped out of the pic .....other than the bush.

A cropped out bush? I don't know about that. Is what I am missing that you guys think LE is holding this back? or what? I am so sorry but I cannot make sense of this at all. But I am trying.

 

[fairest of them all]

If the white truck is not involved...I don't believe they saw anything of any interest, or why would they A. not have stopped B. not come forward on their own or at least by now

Any innocent person who saw a possible accident at 2am would probably stop; if not, they would probably remember it when hearing about a missing bicyclist at the same time and place where they happened to see it and make contact with LE.

So-IMO-the truck is either involved in some way, or saw nothing at all and whatever happened did not happen in their view.

If they hit a bike and left it there and then heard about Mickey a few days later they would almost certainly be afraid to come forward because they'd be afraid they'd be number one suspect! And if all they did was hit a bike that they left there and their fingerprints and DNA were not anywhere on it by it or around it they would have no reason to come forward.......moo

 

[fairest of them all]

A cropped out bush? I don't know about that. Is what I am missing that you guys think LE is holding this back? or what? I am so sorry but I cannot make sense of this at all. But I am trying.

Yes that's my opinion ......my own speculation. Le cropped out a bush. Bush in parking lot is visible in Mickey pic.....not visible in truck pic.

 

[cluciano63]

If they hit a bike and left it there and then heard about Mickey a few days later they would almost certainly be afraid to come forward because they'd be afraid they'd be number one suspect! And if all they did was hit a bike that they left there and their fingerprints and DNA were not anywhere on it by it or around it they would have no reason to come forward.......moo

If they hit a bike, they are kind of involved...

 

[jujube]

I believe ACI, but he said he hasn't been able to find any.
I want desperately to believe she is in the photo of the hooptie. Riding on the opposite side of the road, and if it is, she cannot be under the truck and neither can her bike...but I am the only one who thinks it might be her and not the reflection off the front of a car with it's headlights off sitting in the parking lot. So, if it isn't her..I have to go back where she is last seen, in the path of the truck in almost the exact same spot it looks like a bike under it.

Someone checked it out and it's a low electrical box.

About the hitting/ not hitting of Mickey on her bike. None of us were there so we cannot say one way or the other.
For those spouting physics, you cannot prove she wasn't hit because people do not always fly onto the hood of a car, nor do they always fly forward. The behaviors depend upon the speed of the truck, the speed of the person on the bike, whether the bike rider was at a complete stop, which part of the truck hit what part of the bike,did it just bump the rear or swipe the side, were the roads dry, were they wet, had it rained just before, had it rained a good while before, was the road completely dry or just a bit wet, etc.

 

[gngr~snap]

A cropped out bush? I don't know about that. Is what I am missing that you guys think LE is holding this back? or what? I am so sorry but I cannot make sense of this at all. But I am trying.

Call me crazy! You won't be the first...
This requires an open mind!

Just SAY a bike is under the truck... minus physics ~ strange things do happen.
LE needed this pic out there BUT not in it's original form.
So they BLUR... erase... whatever it is they do NOT want us to focus on. (assuming the public will not question it.)

Maybe it was a backpack she lost thinking it was secured to her bike, maybe it was more.

I see Something in front of the R front tire about 1/2 the size of the tire... AN something behind it! IF LE can lie during an investigations as they see fit is it inconceivable that an edited photo might be what we are seeing?

IMO I saw it the first time i viewed the pic... still do!
my eyesight isn't what it used to be... My mind says "NO WAY!"
My GUT says "come on it's there fool"

I pray we may KNOW SOON!

 

[De2385]

and separated shoulders. :innocent:

I had a "bruise" on my knee for a year. I tried to keep from hitting a turtle and hit a bridge. The worst part was the 8 miles back to the car.

So with that said, If someone picked her up and our girl was able, I am sure she got a few punches in.

 

[StacyMarie83]

Do you see chrome pipe like running boards? I do not see Mickey.......I see chrome running boards and reflective glare or shadows on the shiny pipe type running boards.....

EHR MEH GERD.....AM I TGE ONLY ONE WHO SEES CHROME RUNNING BOARDS????

I said that about 10 threads back lol :banghead: I here ya and I do NOT see Mickey anywhere in the truck picture...either on the ground, in the back end, in the back seat, front seat, etc etc etc. The LE needs to give an update already...jeez JMO of course

 

[JBean]

Yes that's my opinion ......my own speculation. Le cropped out a bush. Bush in parking lot is visible in Mickey pic.....not visible in truck pic.

Tip o' the day!Don't forget to state "in your opinion"(moo,jmho) so that people (like me) don't get confused.LOL. I thought you were stating it as a fact in your first post but I am on board now. Opinions are good!
But would be curious as to the location of the bush you think is missing. There is so much artifact in those pictures I am curious to see to what you are referring. TIA.

 

[paddleallday]

Call me crazy! You won't be the first...
This requires an open mind!

Just SAY a bike is under the truck... minus physics ~ strange things do happen.
LE needed this pic out there BUT not in it's original form.
So they BLUR... erase... whatever it is they do NOT want us to focus on. (assuming the public will not question it.)

Maybe it was a backpack she lost thinking it was secured to her bike, maybe it was more.

I see Something in front of the R front tire about 1/2 the size of the tire... AN something behind it! IF LE can lie during an investigations as they see fit is it inconceivable that an edited photo might be what we are seeing?

IMO I saw it the first time i viewed the pic... still do!
my eyesight isn't what it used to be... My mind says "NO WAY!"
My GUT says "come on it's there fool"

I pray we may KNOW SOON!

Why minus physics? If the truck in fact hit her from behind (so both Mickey and the truck are headed the same direction) physics tell us the bike goes under the truck and Mickey, more than likely goes on the hood / windshield.

 

[Mahouston69]

But LE has seen the whole tape of her riding by. I mean the tape doesn't stop here. LE would have seen the collision on the balance of the tape.
ETA: If there was a collision in that spot in front of the camera there would be a tape of the entire thing. There would be no mystery. Remember this is just 2 separate stills that have been linked together in a most misleading way. There is more footage before after and during in increments that would have captured something like that.

What am I missing?

The video at the LCG building is not continuous video. Watch the LCG traffic cameras. See how the vehicle/road shots are taken every few seconds? It's not like watching a home video camera. We don't know the shot increments. So, Mickey and the Truck might only appear once (entering the shot from the left) or twice (another shot where we see her) on the video, or only once. Otherwise we would have a Hooptie shot right there, instead of another camera. The camera increments are spaced at length obviously and have not recorded everthing.

I think the truck photos are cropped in because the video/photo expert is bothered by those odd images by the tire too, thinks the same as we do and zoomed in to tweak it and identify it... and can't. That is why they released it, because they figure if they can't say it is 100% neither can we. You can only enhance pixelated video so much. They had great difficulty identifying Mickey, and her family only identified her by her stance and her hair color, basically. Again, I challenge you to take a screen shot of a LCG traffic cam pic online, then import it into a photo editing program. Can you see any clearer? I can't.

Now, I said I was getting off here.. but I can't. We have a missing girl in Sacramento.